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« Reply #8400 on: January 17, 2021, 06:07:18 AM »
Trump was also associated with Epstein.  Funny how you don't bring THAT up Tom.

Heard about it. Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago. Then he was kicked out by Trump.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/04/donald-trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-beach-club-hitting-teenage-girl-13083367/

‘Donald Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from his beach club for hitting on teenage girl’

"Donald Trump reportedly kicked Epstein out of his Mar-A-Lago beach club for harassing a teenage girl

Donald Trump barred billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago beach club for hitting on a member’s teenage daughter, according to a new book about the club.

The president distanced himself from Epstein after he was arrested in July 2019, despite photos and video that showed the pair together.

‘I’m not a fan of his,’ Trump said, although he never explained further.

However, a new book released Tuesday titled ‘The Grifter’s Club’ claims Epstein was once a member of Mar-A-Lago until the incident involving another member’s daughter.

Trump ‘kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member,’ a club member explained, according to the book’s co-author Sarah Blaskey, an investigative reporter who wrote the book with journalists Nicholas Nehamas, Jay Weaver and Caitlin Ostroff."

Also described in court documents, which say that Trump kicked him out for using his club as hunting grounds for young girls:

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

"Jeffrey Epstein turned Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago into another of his hunting grounds for young girls, leading Trump to bar him from the Florida resort, court papers claim.

“Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club,” according to the papers, filed in the Sunshine State as part of an ongoing legal battle between Epstein and Bradley Edwards, who represented many of Epstein’s underage accusers in civil suits against him."
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« Reply #8401 on: January 17, 2021, 06:45:30 AM »
Trump was also associated with Epstein.  Funny how you don't bring THAT up Tom.

Heard about it. Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago. Then he was kicked out by Trump.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/04/donald-trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-beach-club-hitting-teenage-girl-13083367/

‘Donald Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from his beach club for hitting on teenage girl’

"Donald Trump reportedly kicked Epstein out of his Mar-A-Lago beach club for harassing a teenage girl

Donald Trump barred billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago beach club for hitting on a member’s teenage daughter, according to a new book about the club.

The president distanced himself from Epstein after he was arrested in July 2019, despite photos and video that showed the pair together.

‘I’m not a fan of his,’ Trump said, although he never explained further.

However, a new book released Tuesday titled ‘The Grifter’s Club’ claims Epstein was once a member of Mar-A-Lago until the incident involving another member’s daughter.

Trump ‘kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member,’ a club member explained, according to the book’s co-author Sarah Blaskey, an investigative reporter who wrote the book with journalists Nicholas Nehamas, Jay Weaver and Caitlin Ostroff."

Also described in court documents, which say that Trump kicked him out for using his club as hunting grounds for young girls:

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

"Jeffrey Epstein turned Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago into another of his hunting grounds for young girls, leading Trump to bar him from the Florida resort, court papers claim.

“Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club,” according to the papers, filed in the Sunshine State as part of an ongoing legal battle between Epstein and Bradley Edwards, who represented many of Epstein’s underage accusers in civil suits against him."

Of course, PR.
But from the same document linked...  Which doesn't have the list, oddly enough...


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All right.  What's inaccurate about the     last statement on that page?         

A     "Donald Trump was also a good friend of     Jeffrey's."  That part is true.
Page 442 so you can read context.
Granted, its something Jeffery said but doesn't make it true.



However, going through that list of names you posted... Where is thst list in the documents?  I searched Rachel Chandler and found nothing.  Only one instance of "Rachel" is even in the documents and its not Chandler.  Nor Podesta.  Nor Huma Aberdin.
Where did this list come from again?  Can you site the pages of the document?
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« Reply #8402 on: January 17, 2021, 07:22:46 AM »
The page says the list comes from a court document which is linked at the bottom of the article.

It does not. It's a 4chan hoax.
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« Reply #8403 on: January 17, 2021, 07:26:08 AM »
The page says the list comes from a court document which is linked at the bottom of the article.

It does not. It's a 4chan hoax.

What?!  You mean Tom just googled something which supported him without fact checking?  And got me to fact check for him?!

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« Reply #8404 on: January 17, 2021, 07:42:36 AM »
Why would flight logs from a court document be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.
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« Reply #8405 on: January 17, 2021, 07:44:30 AM »
Why would court documents be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.
Because idiots like you would assume the names are in the document and not bother reading it to find out.

Why would you post a list, stating its compiled from a court document, that does not contain said list or mention of people in the list?


- also
For God's sake Tom, use the edit button.  You do not need to delete a post and remake it when you make a mistake.
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« Reply #8406 on: January 17, 2021, 07:50:15 AM »
Why would court documents be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.
Because idiots like you would assume the names are in the document and not bother reading it to find out.

Why would you post a list, stating its compiled from a court document, that does not contain said list or mention of people in the list?

I see a list. There are flight logs starting on page 464 - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs.html?s=09
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« Reply #8407 on: January 17, 2021, 07:53:11 AM »
Why would court documents be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.
Because idiots like you would assume the names are in the document and not bother reading it to find out.

Why would you post a list, stating its compiled from a court document, that does not contain said list or mention of people in the list?

I see a list. There are flight logs starting on page 464 - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs.html?s=09

Thats why it didn't turn up in a search.  They didn't transcribe it.

Now, which page is Rachel Chandler on?
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« Reply #8408 on: January 17, 2021, 08:12:40 AM »
‘Donald Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from his beach club for hitting on teenage girl’

"Donald Trump reportedly kicked Epstein out of his Mar-A-Lago beach club for harassing a teenage girl

Yeah! Harassing teenage girls is Trump’s job

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He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked. Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked changing into our bikinis.”
Dixon went on to say that employees of the Miss Universe Organization encouraged the contestants to lavish Trump with attention when he came in. “To have the owner come waltzing in, when we’re naked, or half-naked, in a very physically vulnerable position and then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention…”
The Trump campaign did not offer a response to either story, but in a 2005 appearance on Howard Stern’s show, Trump bragged about doing exactly what the women describe. “I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” he said.
His position as the pageant’s owner entitled him to that kind of access, Trump explained, seemingly aware that what he was doing made the women uncomfortable. “You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that,” he said.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/
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« Reply #8409 on: January 17, 2021, 08:31:41 AM »
Trump was also associated with Epstein.  Funny how you don't bring THAT up Tom.

Heard about it. Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago. Then he was kicked out by Trump.

Yes, he was kicked out. But, as always, there's more to the story than you just latching onto headlines you feel fit your narrative. From the NYT:

Jeffrey Epstein Was a ‘Terrific Guy,’ Donald Trump Once Said. Now He’s ‘Not a Fan.’

The year was 1992 and the event was a “calendar girl” competition, something that George Houraney, a Florida-based businessman who ran American Dream Enterprise, had organized at Mr. Trump’s request.
“I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Mr. Houraney recalled in an interview on Monday. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.”
Mr. Houraney, who had just partnered with Mr. Trump to host events at his casinos, said he was surprised. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”
In fact, that was the case, an indication of a yearslong friendship between the president and Mr. Epstein that some say ended only after a failed business arrangement between them. The full nature of their eventual falling out is not clear...
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
He also dismissed Mr. Houraney’s warning about his friend’s conduct.
“I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls,’” Mr. Houraney remembers. “He said, ‘Look I’m putting my name on this. I wouldn’t put my name on it and have a scandal.’”
Mr. Houraney said he “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events — Trump didn’t care about that.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html

Trump and Epstein were pretty tight for some time. So tight that they would have a party for just the two of them and 28 young "calendar girls". Hmmmm.

And from one of your sources, The Grifters Club,

"Sarah Blaskey, a Miami Herald investigative reporter who co-wrote the book, told her newspaper in an article published Tuesday that according to another Mar-a-Lago member, Trump “kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member.”

“The way this person described it, such an act could irreparably harm the Trump brand, leaving Donald no choice but to remove Epstein,” Blaskey said."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html

And this from WaPo documents just how friendly the two were and how a real estate deal was probably the reason their relationship soured:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein partied together. Then an oceanfront Palm Beach mansion came between them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html

So yeah, seems like it was more of an optics move to kick Epstein out of Trump's club, protecting the Trump brand, so to speak, more than anything else, and on the heels of a real estate feud between the two.

Seems that Trump is just as dirty as anyone else on one of your "lists". But funny how you defend him and him only.
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« Reply #8410 on: January 17, 2021, 12:27:07 PM »
Why would flight logs from a court document be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.

The claim IS evidence, according to you.
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« Reply #8411 on: January 17, 2021, 02:21:58 PM »
Why would flight logs from a court document be part of a 4 chan hoax? You provided absolutely no evidence at all.

The flight logs in the court document aren't a hoax. The website's list of Democratic celebrities and Trump critics supposedly in the logs, however, is a hoax. You have the flight logs and Epstein's black book; you can confirm for yourself that only a few of those people actually show up in there. The media also talked about this fake list back when it became a thing:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fake-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-lead-qanon-crazies-to-target-chrissy-teigen-and-beyonce
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« Reply #8412 on: January 17, 2021, 04:32:22 PM »
Check closer. If you go back to the original link I presented it gives two lists. A list of people who have been on the plane (and possibly island) and a list of island visitors. There are two lists of people here:

https://steadfastclash.com/the-latest/its-not-a-conspiracy-theory-anymore-hundreds-of-names-revealed-who-visited-epsteins-island/

From the Daily Beast argument which "debunks" the second list with the large list of celebrity names:

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The main problem, though, is that the list is largely fake. Many of the people named do appear in the real flight logs: Alan Dershowitz and Bill Clinton show up; Jeffrey Epstein appears twice. But the list also features dozens of celebrities, most of whom have no known ties to Epstein at all. A cross-reference of the screenshot list with the flight logs released in the court record found that it named 36 celebrities who never set foot on the plane (though two of those 36—Alec Baldwin and Courtney Love—do appear in Epstein’s “Black Book” of phone numbers). Those celebrities include:

Akon, Alec Baldwin, Anderson Cooper, Barack Obama, Ben Affleck, Beyonce Knowles, Bill Murray, Charlie Sheen, Chelsea Handler, Chrissy Teigen, Courtney Love, Demi Moore, Gwen Stefani, James Franco, Jim Carrey, Jimmy Kimmel, John Cusack, John Legend, Kathy Griffin, Katy Perry, Eminem, Michelle Wolf, Oprah Winfrey, Pharrell Williams, Quentin Tarantino, Robert Downey Jr., Seth Green, Jay-Z, Lady Gaga, Steven Spielberg, Steven Tyler, Stephen Colbert, Tom Hanks, Wanda Sykes, Will Ferrell, Will Smith, and Woody Allen.

It says it's fake because those people do not appear on the flight logs.

Those people, however, were not depicted as the list of people in the Epstein flight logs.

So this page you linked has not "debunked" anything except for a twitter post it found of someone calling it a list of people in the flight logs.
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« Reply #8413 on: January 17, 2021, 04:33:59 PM »
Nope, check closer. If you go back to the original link I presented it gives two lists. A list of people who have been on the plane (and possibly island) and a list of island visitors. There are two lists of people here:

https://steadfastclash.com/the-latest/its-not-a-conspiracy-theory-anymore-hundreds-of-names-revealed-who-visited-epsteins-island/

From the Daily Beast argument which "debunks" the second list with the large list of celebrity names:

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The main problem, though, is that the list is largely fake. Many of the people named do appear in the real flight logs: Alan Dershowitz and Bill Clinton show up; Jeffrey Epstein appears twice. But the list also features dozens of celebrities, most of whom have no known ties to Epstein at all. A cross-reference of the screenshot list with the flight logs released in the court record found that it named 36 celebrities who never set foot on the plane (though two of those 36—Alec Baldwin and Courtney Love—do appear in Epstein’s “Black Book” of phone numbers). Those celebrities include:

It says it's fake because those people do not appear on the flight logs.

Those people, however, were not depicted as the list of people in the Epstein flight logs.

So this page you linked has not "debunked" anything except for a twitter post it found of someone calling it a list of people in the flight logs.

I'm confused. Your link says, "Here is a huge list of people who have either flown on Epstein's plane or been to the island:"

Is there a flight log and then a separate sort of "guestbook" sign-in log for the island itself? For instance Beyonce is listed in your link as having been to the island but not on his plane. Did Beyonce take a boat there and then sign some log in the foyer of the main hose on the island before going to the group shower and underground lair in the temple?
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« Reply #8414 on: January 17, 2021, 04:38:44 PM »
If they're not on the flight log list but they have been to the island they would have taken a different plane or their own plane, not necessarily Epstein's plane. Possibly a boat or cruise, sure. Airport runways can usually accommodate more than one person's specific aircraft.
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« Reply #8415 on: January 17, 2021, 04:42:33 PM »
If they're not on the flight log list but they have been to the island they would have taken a different plane or their own plane, not necessarily Epstein's plane. Possibly a boat or cruise, sure. Airport runways can usually accommodate more than one person's specific aircraft.

No, I get that. But is there some sort of guestbook log that shows all the people that visited to the island regardless of their mode of transpo?
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« Reply #8416 on: January 17, 2021, 04:44:57 PM »
If they're not on the flight log list but they have been to the island they would have taken a different plane or their own plane, not necessarily Epstein's plane. Possibly a boat or cruise, sure. Airport runways can usually accommodate more than one person's specific aircraft.

No, I get that. But is there some sort of guestbook log that shows all the people that visited to the island regardless of their mode of transpo?

It's the official "Democrat visitors to Espteins paedo playboy palace" log book that was placed in the "to be leaked" bin, while the Republican sign in logs were rightfully kept in the "do not leak to press" bin. Bad luck.
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« Reply #8417 on: January 17, 2021, 04:46:19 PM »
There are two lists of people here:
Have you looked at other articles on that site? I guess you have because some of them are the sort of claptrap you’ve posted on here over the last couple of months.
It’s clearly a site for conspiracy theorists to post their crazy ideas, not a serious news site.
It’s a bit rich you dismissing sources posted to you as left wing and biased and then posting a link to a site like that which clearly has zero credibility.
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« Reply #8418 on: January 17, 2021, 05:20:16 PM »
I'm still waiting on the page Rachel is listed on.  Tom obviously checked the log before posting that list so his help would cut down hours of searching the 100+ pages.
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« Reply #8419 on: January 17, 2021, 08:57:32 PM »
You can conduct your own research and go through it on your own. Here is Rachel Chandler promoting underage models from the MC2 Epstein Agency used to pass around young girls: https://www.wmagazine.com/gallery/16-models-to-watch-in-2017-as-predicted-by-midland-agencys-rachel-chandler-and-walter-pearce/

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https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/rachel-chandler-still-working-w-epsteins-modeling-agency-mc2-accused-in-court-of-procuring-children-for-elites/

Rachel Chandler Still Working W/ Epstein’s Modeling Agency MC2 Accused In Court of Procuring Children For Elites

Rachel Chandler: Epstein victim, turned skeezy famous photographer, photographed with Bill Clinton

High fashion W Magazine article “16 Models to Watch According to Rachel Chandler”

Picture #4/16 and 13/16 Says the models are from MC2

MC2 modeling agency is all wrapped up in Epstein’s scandals…and now its connected to none other than Rachel Chandler.

Article #1

2015 “The boss of a hot New York modeling agency supplied Jeffery Epstein with underage girls for an orgy with Prince Andrew, court documents claim.
There, the fashion-industry honcho staged a topless photo shoot with young models from Russia, Roberts told the Daily Mail.

Brunel scored US passports for girls as young as 12 — then passed the minors off to pervy pals like Epstein, according to court documents.

Roberts claims Epstein forced her to have sex with Brunel, co-founder of MC2 Model Management, at his home in West Palm Beach, Fla., in New York, California and several other spots.

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https://pagesix.com/2015/01/09/modeling-honcho-allegedly-gave-epstein-young-models-for-orgy/

Article #2

Two sources familiar with Epstein’s finances tell The Daily Beast they believe Epstein dropped as much as $2 million into MC2 to get it started. (Brunel has denied that Epstein funded the agency.) “Jeff put his money up for this guy to get Jeffrey these young girls. That’s a front for Jeffrey’s securing more and more young girls,” one longtime Epstein confidant said.

According to a complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, Epstein used the agency to lure underage prey. In those court documents, one alleged victim accused the billionaire of “deliberately engag[ing] in a pattern of racketeering that involved luring minor children through MC2, mostly girls under the age of 17, to engage in sexual play for money.

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The offices for MC2 in New York are smack in the middle of prime real estate at the northern edge of Manhattan’s tony Greenwich Village neighborhood. The agency also claims to have international offices in Miami and as far away as Tel Aviv.
www.thedailybeast.com/the-dead-model-and-the-dirty-billionaire

Just published a few days ago

“Among those potentially on the list: Ghislaine Maxwell, a 57-year-old British socialite and publishing heir who has been accused of working as Epstein’s madam; and Jean-Luc Brunel, who, according to court records, was partners with Epstein in an international modeling company.

Giuffre claims that Epstein used the modeling agency, Mc2, to lure underage girls and in court papers said Epstein “deliberately engaged in a pattern of racketeering that involved luring minor children through Mc2, mostly girls under the age of 17, to engage in sexual play for money.”

www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232385422.html


Chandler also apparently associated with Epstein's friend and visitor spirit cooker Marina Abramovic.

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http://thedivinegoddessblog.blogspot.com/2018/04/rachel-chandler-eminem-and-sex.html?m=1

One thing you guys have missed is that she has a much deeper connection to the occult artist Marina Abramovic than I've seen documented so far.

Some links you might find interesting:

- Rachel is the primary photographer for an artist named Terence Koh, who frequently collaborates with Abramovic. Here, he's in a death pose on a piece of hers: http://purple.fr/diary/terence-kohon-a-work-by-marina-abramovic-at-a-collectors-house-east/Another photo of the same set: http://purple.fr/diary/terence-kohon-a-work-by-marina-abramovic-at-the-collectors-house-east/

- A video from a MoMA party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPPKj99ZV60 YouTube List of attendees: "Those in attendance included Madonna, Mary-Kate Olsen, Yoko Ono, James Franco, Lou Reed, Patti Smith, Chloe Sevigny, Penn Badgely, Padma Lakshmi, Rose Byrne, Kim Cattrall, Lucy Liu, Marina Abramovic, Daphne Guinness, Terence Koh, Andrej Pejic, Leelee Sobieski, Cindy Sherman, Agnes Gund, Katharina Sieverding, Rachel Chandler, Michelle Harper, David Rockefeller, Jr., MoMA's Director Glenn Lowry, Volkswagen's Martin Winterkorn, and Director of MoMA PS1 and MoMA's Chief Curator at Large Klaus Biesenbach."

- Rachel was a photographer/attendee at Marina Abramovic's 2010 "The Artist is Present" performance at the MoMAhttp://www.patrickmcmullan.com/site/event_detail.aspx?eid=32454 (look for her name on the left-hand list of Featured People and use the filter function)

- This is the one I think you might find the most interesting, and I'm surprised this hasn't been delved into before. Abramovic gave a very controversial performance at the LA MoCA that involved a kind of pseudo/ritualized cannibalism of a female body, and Rachel was present as well. https://www.artforum.com/diary/id=29517

-- Abramovic cutting the fake female dead body: https://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id29517/article07.jpgJPG -- A Black woman's head lying in front of dinner eaters: https://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id29517/article08.jpgJPG -- A body being eaten: https://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id29517/article16.jpgJPG -- Body after many parts being eaten: https://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id29517/article05.jpgJPG -- Rachel Chandler posing at the party with Dasha Zhukova, who is the wife of Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich: https://www.artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id29517/article13.jpgJPG

There's a lot more of a connection between these two (Chandler and Abramovic) but that's all I could find with Google.
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