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Re: Trump
« Reply #3220 on: September 06, 2018, 11:40:52 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

We get a glimpse in to what many people thought was already the case: that Trump is stumbling his way through his mandate.

It’s such an odd document to be presented with because there is nothing trustworthy about it, but it smacks of truthiness.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #3221 on: September 06, 2018, 12:09:41 PM »
I'm not sure if this is all that notable. It's no secret that civil servants and senior officials are there to keep a country steady. No politician is perfect, and preventing horrible decisions is part of their job. Combine that with Trump's, uh, leadership style and this article begins to read as an overly dramatic statement of the obvious.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #3222 on: September 06, 2018, 12:17:53 PM »
Actively working to oppose a sitting president is not super common amongst White House staff. Complaining of irrationality and inconsistency is also not very common, at least not in my memory
Technically the explanation for why the sun sets at higher altitudes is also "waves," and whatnot.

Re: Trump
« Reply #3223 on: September 06, 2018, 01:50:32 PM »
I'm not sure if this is all that notable. It's no secret that civil servants and senior officials are there to keep a country steady. No politician is perfect, and preventing horrible decisions is part of their job. Combine that with Trump's, uh, leadership style and this article begins to read as an overly dramatic statement of the obvious.
Its only obvious if you don't like Trump.For all his loyal fans, this is fake news and totally unbelievable.

Re: Trump
« Reply #3224 on: September 10, 2018, 08:09:10 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/10/646327423/ford-says-despite-trumps-tweet-focus-active-won-t-be-produced-in-u-s

Trade war isn't going so well for Trump even though he thinks it is.
Also: Trump tweeting about what a company will do even though they say they won't do it.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #3225 on: September 12, 2018, 07:38:41 PM »
This is why no one trusts the media:



Archive Link: http://archive.fo/ocU11

The author is from the Associated Press.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #3226 on: September 12, 2018, 08:32:43 PM »
Uhhh, no.  The trip was not to meet the military, he just landed at a military base.


Its like high fiving the taxi driver on your way to a funeral.  This was a simple transport transfer which he turned onto a rally.


If you want to correct the headline:


Trump fist bumps crowd gathered to see him leave a plane on his way to a memorial.


Or maybe:
Trump makes quick rally stop on the way to a memorial presentation.






Also: people who get a whole story from a headline are bad people.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #3227 on: September 13, 2018, 09:43:13 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/trump-puerto-rico-death-toll/index.html

What a fucking prick. There's nothing he won't lie about.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #3228 on: September 14, 2018, 07:44:59 AM »

Re: Trump
« Reply #3229 on: September 14, 2018, 08:12:57 AM »
Tom, a storm's effects can kill people without being a direct cause of death.


A person who dies from lack of medical care because the hospital was destroyed by the storm, is a storm-related death.  That is what is being counted, not people who specifically were killed by the storm.


I'm not sure why you think any of those headlines or stories means something else.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #3230 on: September 14, 2018, 08:22:38 AM »
Surely no political motivations and no less reliable than "Hillary has a 98% chance of defeating Donald Trump" !

How about they just stick to facts and report ACTUAL fatalities?

Re: Trump
« Reply #3231 on: September 14, 2018, 09:06:23 AM »
I like that Trump sort of forces debate in a way the last few presidents haven't been able to.

People are talking about politics and taking an interest in their countries future which can only be a good thing.

I think he's a bit of a Zionist, kinda saw that one coming. To be fair, we still aren't at war in Syria and Iran which I don't believe would be the case under Hillary so bully for that.

The lulz have been worth it also imo.

Re: Trump
« Reply #3232 on: September 14, 2018, 09:09:03 AM »
This is why no one trusts the media:



Archive Link: http://archive.fo/ocU11

The author is from the Associated Press.

I made a thread on the other site you might enjoy.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=77733.0


Re: Trump
« Reply #3233 on: September 14, 2018, 10:31:47 AM »
Surely no political motivations and no less reliable than "Hillary has a 98% chance of defeating Donald Trump" !

How about they just stick to facts and report ACTUAL fatalities?


Because, as odd as it sounds, events have effects that don't end when the event does.


Also, matching up political voting statistics to disaster effect statistics is apt.  America is a disaster after that election. :P

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« Reply #3234 on: September 14, 2018, 11:36:03 AM »
Surely no political motivations and no less reliable than "Hillary has a 98% chance of defeating Donald Trump" !

How about they just stick to facts and report ACTUAL fatalities?

They reported those, but the other 2,900 people dying is relevant. It’s like reporting only the people on the plane in 911 died because the rest of the people died from a building collapsing, not a plane crash.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #3235 on: September 14, 2018, 12:45:32 PM »
Bear in mind that Trump isn't even drawing such a pedantic distinction between direct and indirect casualties. He's crying conspiracy over the study and claiming that it was padded with completely unrelated deaths:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1040220855400386560

My favorite part is the detail about him "raising" billions. As if he set up a fundraiser or something.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #3236 on: September 14, 2018, 03:59:22 PM »
Surely no political motivations and no less reliable than "Hillary has a 98% chance of defeating Donald Trump" !

How about they just stick to facts and report ACTUAL fatalities?

They reported those, but the other 2,900 people dying is relevant. It’s like reporting only the people on the plane in 911 died because the rest of the people died from a building collapsing, not a plane crash.


Or ignoring all the first responders who died of cancer caused by breathing in the toxic dust after the towers fell.

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« Reply #3237 on: September 15, 2018, 07:46:01 PM »
Actively working to oppose a sitting president is not super common amongst White House staff. Complaining of irrationality and inconsistency is also not very common, at least not in my memory
There was a bit of it with Bush Jr., but compared to Trump it was just about unnoticeable.
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« Reply #3238 on: September 15, 2018, 08:24:05 PM »
Surely no political motivations and no less reliable than "Hillary has a 98% chance of defeating Donald Trump" !

How about they just stick to facts and report ACTUAL fatalities?

They reported those, but the other 2,900 people dying is relevant. It’s like reporting only the people on the plane in 911 died because the rest of the people died from a building collapsing, not a plane crash.

Except that the 911 death toll is based on real deaths and are not merely based on a statistical model of people who "should" have died.
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« Reply #3239 on: September 15, 2018, 08:50:54 PM »
Except that the 911 death toll is based on real deaths and are not merely based on a statistical model of people who "should" have died.
What's the definition of a 'real death' Tom?  That's the pertinent question.  How about someone that died 2 weeks later from dysentery caused by drinking water that got polluted during the storm, is that a real death?

When a damaging storm like Maria runs though an impoverished area like that, people that are barely making a subsistence living start dying in droves.  The simplistic infrastructure they rely on collapses.  They can't get clean water to drink or food to eat.  They are cut off from medical help and the basic necessities of life.  Disease and malnutrition take their toll.  Are these not real deaths?
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