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« Reply #7180 on: November 24, 2020, 12:50:43 PM »
I know you want to spin this as a concession, because the left is desperate for some kind of concession
Not me. :)
The longer this all drags on the more humiliating this gets for Trump, and the part of his fanbase who are still trying to do the mental backflips needed to pretend that he won. It's quite funny to watch some of you constantly trying to reframe loss after loss, humiliation after humiliation as wins for Trump. As Parsifal says, I wonder how this will play out. When the Electoral College votes Biden in will you still be clinging to further legal challenges. When those fail where do you go from there? At Biden's Inauguration are you expecting helicopters to swoop in and just before Biden takes the oath Trump will abseil from one of them, knock Biden out and take office while the crowd goes wild?

I suspect honk is right. As this nonsense is repeatedly shown up for what it is you'll just dig further down the conspiracy rabbit holes, continue to believe that "they" stopped Trump from taking his rightful place as President and probably keep sending money to him to pay off his debts. Enjoy the Trump News Network - full and exclusive unbiased covfefe of how brilliant Trump is 24/7

Eventually the Tom's and J-Mans of the world will have to accept that Joe Biden is president of the United States, but they will never accept it as legitimate and the myth that Trump was the rightful winner will persist for years. The birther movement is still a thing; apparently about 52% of those gullible Republicans still believe it, and I don't doubt J-Man is a believer as well despite not being a Republican, since he's shown himself to be every bit as gullible as an average Republican, and possibly Tom too, depending on how much he really believes the schtick he spews. This won't be any different.

Thanks to how gullible those Republicans are this will likely dog Biden's entire presidency just like the birther myth did to Obama.
Go kicking and screaming, lol, it all means the same on January 21st.

Before this is over I'm betting you eat those landslide words :)

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7181 on: November 24, 2020, 03:57:01 PM »
Eventually the Tom's and J-Mans of the world will have to accept that Joe Biden is president of the United States, but they will never accept it as legitimate and the myth that Trump was the rightful winner will persist for years.
Of course.
And all to stroke Trump's fragile ego - a narcissist who cannot stand the thought that he lost so has to reframe things in his mind to believe it was stolen from him. The sad thing is as you say millions buy into it and it just sows more division between the two sides.

I'm sure it's been said before but overall the Republicans had a pretty good election night. It's weird isn't it how the Dems rigged it so that Biden won but then completely forgot to rig the Senate vote on the same ballots...
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« Reply #7182 on: November 24, 2020, 04:09:02 PM »
Eventually the Tom's and J-Mans of the world will have to accept that Joe Biden is president of the United States, but they will never accept it as legitimate and the myth that Trump was the rightful winner will persist for years.
Of course.
And all to stroke Trump's fragile ego - a narcissist who cannot stand the thought that he lost so has to reframe things in his mind to believe it was stolen from him. The sad thing is as you say millions buy into it and it just sows more division between the two sides.

I'm sure it's been said before but overall the Republicans had a pretty good election night. It's weird isn't it how the Dems rigged it so that Biden won but then completely forgot to rig the Senate vote on the same ballots...

It was all part of the Long Con. The cheating Dems made it look like the Republicans came out just ahead in the Senate race, but it was just so they could steal it in the Georgia runoff races. Oh, those dastardly Democrats!
Go kicking and screaming, lol, it all means the same on January 21st.

Before this is over I'm betting you eat those landslide words :)

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« Reply #7184 on: November 24, 2020, 04:50:47 PM »
Eventually the Tom's and J-Mans of the world will have to accept that Joe Biden is president of the United States, but they will never accept it as legitimate and the myth that Trump was the rightful winner will persist for years.
Of course.
And all to stroke Trump's fragile ego - a narcissist who cannot stand the thought that he lost so has to reframe things in his mind to believe it was stolen from him. The sad thing is as you say millions buy into it and it just sows more division between the two sides.

I'm sure it's been said before but overall the Republicans had a pretty good election night. It's weird isn't it how the Dems rigged it so that Biden won but then completely forgot to rig the Senate vote on the same ballots...

This proves that some small percentage of republicans hate Trump.

So they aren't alll gullible
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« Reply #7185 on: November 24, 2020, 05:14:31 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ingraham-trump-still-important-biden-obama-era-retreads

Good news, Laura Ingraham has accepted that Joe Biden is our next president. She still lives in her own reality, where Obama apparently didn't pull our country out of a debilitating recession, but that's nothing new.
Go kicking and screaming, lol, it all means the same on January 21st.

Before this is over I'm betting you eat those landslide words :)

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« Reply #7186 on: November 24, 2020, 07:31:47 PM »
Add Nevada to the list of battleground states certified for Biden.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/24/pennsylvania-certifies-election.html
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« Reply #7187 on: November 24, 2020, 08:00:18 PM »
Live footage of Tom trying to work out how this has been another great day for Trump

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« Reply #7188 on: November 25, 2020, 12:01:59 AM »
The problem is that you are getting your legal analysis from random liberal websites.

This anonymous internet analysis is likely more credible than whatever you are reading:

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« Reply #7189 on: November 25, 2020, 12:21:46 AM »
The problem is that you are getting your legal analysis from random liberal websites.

This anonymous internet analysis is likely more credible than whatever you are reading:


lol no. Anyone who says that a required step in making an election legal doesn’t matter, doesn’t know what they are talking about. Anyone who says that all elections must go through the State legislature, doesn’t know what they are talking about. Anyone comparing 2020’s election to 2000’s, doesn’t know what they are talking about.

In other “it doesn’t mean shit, but totally does” news, Biden is now getting the presidents daily briefing.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/24/politics/trump-biden-pdb-transition/index.html

Trump appears to have chosen death by a thousand cuts.

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« Reply #7190 on: November 25, 2020, 12:42:11 AM »
But hes found a way to get away with avoiding admitting he lost. NYT reporting that was a major sticking point, and aides said that it wasnt until learning he could allow the transition process to begin without making an official concession letter/speech that he permitted things.

Hopefully that doesnt amount to much, but it definitely leaves an ominous air to things, if his very loyal base decides to stay mad that Biden is taking over "without Trump ever admitting defeat"
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« Reply #7191 on: November 25, 2020, 12:55:36 AM »
But hes found a way to get away with avoiding admitting he lost. NYT reporting that was a major sticking point, and aides said that it wasnt until learning he could allow the transition process to begin without making an official concession letter/speech that he permitted things.

Hopefully that doesnt amount to much, but it definitely leaves an ominous air to things, if his very loyal base decides to stay mad that Biden is taking over "without Trump ever admitting defeat"

My guess is that he will never concede. He doesn't have to. It doesn't matter one way or the other. His base will love it and the rest of the world, literally, will just scratch their heads and think it was to be expected. And by not doing so he gets out of what I'm sure is the most detestable thing he could ever imagine; handing over the keys to the WH at the inauguration. He can skip that whole affair. Maybe squeeze in a self-pardon between a couple of rounds of golf instead. And yes, his very loyal base will stay mad that Biden is taking over "without Trump ever admitting defeat". For sure.
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« Reply #7192 on: November 25, 2020, 05:54:18 AM »
The problem is that you are getting your legal analysis from random liberal websites.

This anonymous internet analysis is likely more credible than whatever you are reading:



And I'm still waiting for him to submit his case of massive voter fraud directly to the Supreme Court.  What's taking so long?  He only has like 3 weeks left!
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« Reply #7193 on: November 25, 2020, 08:20:03 AM »
The problem is that you are getting your legal analysis from random liberal websites.

I watched a video yesterday where Tucker Carlson was calling Trump's team out on their bullshit.
Tucker Carlson!
So no, not really.

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This anonymous internet analysis is likely more credible than whatever you are reading
Yes, I'm sure this quote from some random anonymous person you found which just happens to agree with your viewpoint is more credible than pretty much every news source apart from the real extreme ones which I'd never heard of before all this. Suddenly places like OAN and NewsMax have sprung to prominence. capitalising on the fact that even Fox can't stand by Trump's bollocks any more. Trump's more extreme supporters have scurried off to those places to keep getting their "fix" - networks who will tell them what they want to hear so they don't have to face the reality of the election result.

And while some of what that quote says is accurate, comparisons with 2000 are spurious. That was a genuinely close election where it all came down to 1 state where the difference in vote tallies was in the hundreds.  This election was a landslide (by Trump's own logic, Biden's on course for 306 Electoral College votes which Trump got 4 years ago and he called it a landslide). Only Georgia was close enough to trigger a manual recount and when they did the recount they got the same answer.

Trump's only hope is to prove that there was widespread fraud and so far him and his team have come up with nothing credible, nothing that is standing up in court.
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« Reply #7194 on: November 25, 2020, 01:06:25 PM »
Trump's only hope is to prove that there was widespread fraud and so far him and his team have come up with nothing credible, nothing that is standing up in court.

You keep saying that, but it's not true. A fraud case reached the Mighigan Supreme Court recently. They said that there is substantial evidence of fraud, and agrees with plaintiff, but proceeded to deflect. Said it was not their place to perform certain actions, didn't want to disnfranchize legitimate voters, etc.
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« Reply #7195 on: November 25, 2020, 01:08:04 PM »
Trump's only hope is to prove that there was widespread fraud and so far him and his team have come up with nothing credible, nothing that is standing up in court.

You keep saying that, but it's not true. The state is finding reasons to deflect. Michigan says that there is substantial evidence of fraud, but it is not their place to do anything about it.

Who is “Michigan” and where did they say this?
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« Reply #7196 on: November 25, 2020, 01:12:28 PM »
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« Reply #7197 on: November 25, 2020, 01:15:22 PM »
Would you mind linking to the entire document?
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« Reply #7198 on: November 25, 2020, 01:34:11 PM »
The guy who sold Hunter Biden's laptop to Giuliani left town.

 https://news.yahoo.com/computer-repairman-gave-hunter-biden-132234373.html



But we got a picture of him.


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« Reply #7199 on: November 25, 2020, 02:18:06 PM »


So it seems you are, once again, just interpreting this how you wish.  The concurring opinion, which came after denying the motion for an injunction, said that the plaintiffs were asserting troubling allegations and that an evidentiary hearing would be in order.  The judge makes no indication that the evidence is persuasive or not, just that there were affidavits presented to substantiate their claims.  That being said, I will say that this is the most traction a case relating to the fairness of the election has gotten; a judge saying it's worth evaluating the evidence.  The judge also says that an audit of the results is already forthcoming, and that Michigan law requires a certified result for such an audit and that the plaintiffs case is therefore moot.  However, nowhere is it claimed the evidence is substantial, which is different than presenting "evidence to substantiate ... allegations".

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