[Tom Bishop]

You guys are still trying to justify the bribery of politicians. There is no justification. Nor did anyone force her to commit a crime as a joke.

[markjo]

I don’t know about that.  Being a businessman, I’m sure that Trump thinks that bribery is good and normal way of doing business.
https://apnews.com/article/fcpa-bribery-trump-antibribery-law-executive-order-b656ef40a0035591618d053aa0ac7458
https://newrepublic.com/post/190513/donald-trump-lobbyists-gifts-bribing-politicians
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/did-9-law-firms-making-deals-with-trump-violate-bribery-anti-fraud-laws-democratic-letters-seek-answers

[Lord Dave]

Yeah.  Businesses bribe eachother and government officials.  So a businessman would want to make bribing great again.

[AATW]

Nor did anyone force her to commit a crime as a joke.

She didn’t commit a crime. Why do you keep lying about that? Your own article says that. She was never prosecuted, she was never even charged.

[Dr Van Nostrand]

Ok, Trump's new health care plan. He will reduce drug prices by 1500%. When you have a $50 prescription at the pharmacy, they will pay you $750 dollars when you pick it up.



It' so amazing that it made us all forget about the Epstein files.

[markjo]

Nor did anyone force her to commit a crime as a joke.

She didn’t commit a crime. Why do you keep lying about that? Your own article says that. She was never prosecuted, she was never even charged.

Technically, just because she wasn’t charged doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a crime.  It just means that there wasn’t a crime that the prosecutor felt was worth prosecuting.  You know, like most of the crimes that everyone knows that Trump committed but hasn’t been charged with.

[Lord Dave]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/california-governor-candidate-calls-auschwitz-172716755.html

I wonder if Trump endorses him.

Like, this should absolutely crater his entire life.  This right there.
But it won't.  Not in America.  I fear he'll be cheered by far too many.


Oh god, it doesn't stop.
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-kyle-langford-proposes-forcing-migrant-woman-marry-2060334

Yeah, this guy is a grade A scumbag.  Who hasn't been thrown out of the Republican party.

[AATW]

Technically, just because she wasn’t charged doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a crime.  It just means that there wasn’t a crime that the prosecutor felt was worth prosecuting.  You know, like most of the crimes that everyone knows that Trump committed but hasn’t been charged with.

Well, I guess that's all true. It's just a bit weird that Tom keeps calling what O'Donnell a crime when his own article says there was unlikely to be any case to prosecute here and she was never even charged. And it exposes his complete hypocrisy, when he defends someone who is an adjudicated rapist, I'd argue that's a significantly worse crime.

[AATW]

Chuckle.

[Lord Dave]

Chuckle.

Trump cheating at golf is well know to everyone except MAGA.

[AATW]

Trump cheating at golf is well know to everyone except MAGA.

I'm really interested in the psychology at play here. Must people want to win, but they want to do so fairly, otherwise you haven't really won.
But he doesn't care, so long as he wins he doesn't care if he's cheated to do so. It's like all the "club championships" he's won. I mean...he hasn't

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/apr/02/donald-trump-golf-28-club-championships

So...does he some how convince himself he really has won? it's the psychology of a child.

[Lord Dave]

Trump cheating at golf is well know to everyone except MAGA.

I'm really interested in the psychology at play here. Must people want to win, but they want to do so fairly, otherwise you haven't really won.
But he doesn't care, so long as he wins he doesn't care if he's cheated to do so. It's like all the "club championships" he's won. I mean...he hasn't

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/apr/02/donald-trump-golf-28-club-championships

So...does he some how convince himself he really has won? it's the psychology of a child.

Either
A) he convinces himself everyone cheats so he's just keeping it even.
B) he only cares about the praise, not how he got there.  He may even be happy if they just award him grand champion every year without even having him swing a club.

[Tom Bishop]

Where is your evidence that cheating is occurring here? In the video you can see that one of the caddies appears to be looking for something in the tall dead grass as the other caddie drops a new ball into the nearby good green grass area.

Learn moar golf:

https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-16.html

Recap: When a golf ball lies on an abnormal course condition, such as a cart path, ground under repair, or temporary water, the player is typically allowed to take free relief. This involves dropping the ball within a designated relief area, which is determined by the nearest point of complete relief

[Lord Dave]

Where is your evidence that cheating is occurring here? In the video you can see that one of the caddies appears to be looking for something in the tall dead grass as the other caddie drops a new ball into the nearby good green grass area.

Learn moar golf:

https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-16.html

Recap: When a golf ball lies on an abnormal course condition, such as a cart path, ground under repair, or temporary water, the player is typically allowed to take free relief. This involves dropping the ball within a designated relief area, which is determined by the nearest point of complete relief

And which one of those conditions occurred?  Because from what I see the answer is: none.  At best you can say he hit the water hazard.  But given how the caddy just dropped it in what looked like a sneaky way, it doesn't seem so.  Also, the player must decide which relief to persue when it gets into the water hazard.

[Lord Dave]

Where is your evidence that cheating is occurring here? In the video you can see that one of the caddies appears to be looking for something in the tall dead grass as the other caddie drops a new ball into the nearby good green grass area.

Learn moar golf:

https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-16.html

Recap: When a golf ball lies on an abnormal course condition, such as a cart path, ground under repair, or temporary water, the player is typically allowed to take free relief. This involves dropping the ball within a designated relief area, which is determined by the nearest point of complete relief

[markjo]

Chuckle.

Trump cheating at golf is well know to everyone except MAGA.

It’s been said among golfers that if you cheat at golf, then you’ll cheat at pretty much everything else.  Trump proved that with his taxes and his wives.

[Tom Bishop]

Where is your evidence that cheating is occurring here? In the video you can see that one of the caddies appears to be looking for something in the tall dead grass as the other caddie drops a new ball into the nearby good green grass area.

Learn moar golf:

https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-16.html

Recap: When a golf ball lies on an abnormal course condition, such as a cart path, ground under repair, or temporary water, the player is typically allowed to take free relief. This involves dropping the ball within a designated relief area, which is determined by the nearest point of complete relief

And which one of those conditions occurred?  Because from what I see the answer is: none.  At best you can say he hit the water hazard.  But given how the caddy just dropped it in what looked like a sneaky way, it doesn't seem so.  Also, the player must decide which relief to persue when it gets into the water hazard.

Considering that it is permissible to move the golf balls around in some situations, you should probably figure out what occured before claiming that cheating is happening from a 14 second clip.

[markjo]

Trump is well known for brazenly cheating at golf. 

"Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf," Reilly wrote. "He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: 'Pele.'”

With such a history of cheating, does he really deserve the benefit of the doubt?

[Tom Bishop]

"kick his ball back onto the fairway" - this is how you are supposed to play golf when the ball lands in an area with an abnormal course condition though. It is possible that Trump is not cheating at all.

[AATW]

Where is your evidence that cheating is occurring here?

lol

The psychology of Trump is interesting, as is the psychology of his cult members who pretend they can't see what's in front of their nose so they can do anything other than find any fault in their cult leader.