Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« on: February 23, 2016, 05:49:53 PM »
Note: Excuse The Font. :)
Alright so I am a little confused about the Flat Earth in general. I don't trust Nasa ATM, after what they have been proven to do wrong over the years, but I have yet to see proof of a flat Earth. I recently launched my rocket in the air, and I am an amateur, sadly. I put a go pro on it, and I still couldn't see the Earth's Curve.  (other than Fish Eye). I know seeing is believing but, there are so many pictures of the Round Earth. Plus the Lunar Landing is very sketchy, I mean, no stars from the moon?? There is no atmosphere to disfigure the stars. Ok heres the point, I would like to know why the Earth is flat and some proof. *P.S* Maybe you could include something I can do to make sure the Earth is flat! Thanks, TheSkeptic. :) Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us?? 

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 02:04:07 AM »
Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us??
:o :o So you ask questions that have been answered numerous times!  ::) ::) Like:
"I recently launched my rocket in the air, and I am an amateur, sadly. I put a go pro on it, and I still couldn't see the Earth's Curve." Oh really? Why on earth did you put a GoPro on it if wanted to see curvature?
"I mean, no stars from the moon?? There is no atmosphere to disfigure the stars."
"Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us??"

Go look up previous answers to these questions! Why would they have changed?

Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 05:59:48 AM »
I think your font choice really pissed rabinoz off lol...

But honestly, I'm having trouble distinguishing whether you are a legit user or another one of the forum members just trying to troll. But if you're legit, I'd love to see your rocket footage regardless. Perhaps you could be a help with experiments of your own.

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 07:53:49 AM »
Ok heres the point, I would like to know why the Earth is flat and some proof.

It looks flat.  If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.
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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 08:16:50 AM »
...Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us?? 
Regardless if you use the the RE model (Earth is spinning on its axis and orbiting the Sun) or the FE model (Earth is rotating about the north pole and accelerating upwards at 9.81 m/s² (or some other method of attraction)):
- Something holds us to the Earth so before you jump your velocity is the same as the Earth's.
- When you jump you are only moving relative to the Earth, i.e in a vertical motion.

This question has been asked before and the simplest way to demonstrate it is to imagine you drop a mongoose whilst driving a car at 100 kph. The mongoose falls straight down relative to the car, it does not fall backwards towards the rear of the car.

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 09:01:30 AM »
...Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us?? 
Regardless if you use the the RE model (Earth is spinning on its axis and orbiting the Sun) or the FE model (Earth is rotating about the north pole and accelerating upwards at 9.81 m/s² (or some other method of attraction)):
- Something holds us to the Earth so before you jump your velocity is the same as the Earth's.
- When you jump you are only moving relative to the Earth, i.e in a vertical motion.

This question has been asked before and the simplest way to demonstrate it is to imagine you drop a mongoose whilst driving a car at 100 kph. The mongoose falls straight down relative to the car, it does not fall backwards towards the rear of the car.
I have much better advice:
Never drop a mongoose in a car!

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2016, 05:40:46 AM »
...Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us?? 
Regardless if you use the the RE model (Earth is spinning on its axis and orbiting the Sun) or the FE model (Earth is rotating about the north pole and accelerating upwards at 9.81 m/s² (or some other method of attraction)):
- Something holds us to the Earth so before you jump your velocity is the same as the Earth's.
- When you jump you are only moving relative to the Earth, i.e in a vertical motion.

This question has been asked before and the simplest way to demonstrate it is to imagine you drop a mongoose whilst driving a car at 100 kph. The mongoose falls straight down relative to the car, it does not fall backwards towards the rear of the car.

Slight error in the above.:
 In the FE model, the earth does not rotate. The earth is stationary and everything  -  including the sun  -   rotates around the earth in the FE  model.This is incorrect of course.The RE model is correct of course.

Also : The reason you do not see stars in the moon pictures is a matter of exposure. The pictures were exposed for the bright lighting on the moon so the stars do not show. In other words, the camera was set for exposure of the moon and the stars did not show because they were underexposed. If the exposure had been set to  get the stars, the pictures on the moon would have been  brightly overexposed  and would have been just a white blob.

Star pictures made from the earth - especially "star trails"- are made on dark nights with long time exposures - usually up to several hours  - so that is why you see the stars in those pictures. The earth is rotating and the stars are stationary.

Objects will fall straight down in a car or any object such as an aircraft traveling at several hundred miles per hour - at a constant speed. They will be affected only if the car or any subject is accelerating or decelerating.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2016, 06:08:08 AM by geckothegeek »

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2016, 02:53:38 PM »
...Also why when we jump, why doesn't the Earth move under us?? 
Regardless if you use the the RE model (Earth is spinning on its axis and orbiting the Sun) or the FE model (Earth is rotating about the north pole and accelerating upwards at 9.81 m/s² (or some other method of attraction)):
- Something holds us to the Earth so before you jump your velocity is the same as the Earth's.
- When you jump you are only moving relative to the Earth, i.e in a vertical motion.

This question has been asked before and the simplest way to demonstrate it is to imagine you drop a mongoose whilst driving a car at 100 kph. The mongoose falls straight down relative to the car, it does not fall backwards towards the rear of the car.
I have much better advice:
Never drop a mongoose in a car!

Please avoid low-content posting. http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=977.0

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2016, 08:55:27 AM »
I have much better advice:
Never drop a mongoose in a car!
Please avoid low-content posting. http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=977.0

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2016, 03:12:27 AM »
Ok heres the point, I would like to know why the Earth is flat and some proof.

It looks flat.  If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.

The moon looks made of space cheese, but that doesn't mean it is.

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2016, 06:57:18 AM »
I have much better advice:
Never drop a mongoose in a car!
Please avoid low-content posting. http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=977.0
Please recognize and appreciate humor, this forum could use the occasional laugh.
Pongo doesn't do humour! Or much else other than pointing out low-content posting.

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2016, 01:43:07 PM »
I also occasionally ban people for low-content posting. Please keep your off-topic posts in the lower forum.

Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 06:13:19 PM »
Ok heres the point, I would like to know why the Earth is flat and some proof.

It looks flat.  If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.

The Earth looks curved. If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2016, 06:17:33 PM by atmoSPHERE »

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Re: Flat Earth? Or Round Earth?
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2016, 12:54:38 PM »
Ok heres the point, I would like to know why the Earth is flat and some proof.

It looks flat.  If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.

The Earth looks curved. If you feel it has been proven otherwise feel free to present your evidence and we might explain to you why you're wrong if we feel like it.
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