[Tom Bishop]

Kamala was not able to outperform Sleepy Joe in a single county. It seems that your side made a huge mistake and then proceeded to live in a delusion of your own making. What an unprecedented turn of events for the liberals.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1854064784351678941

[Lord Dave]

Kamala was not able to outperform Sleepy Joe in a single county. It seems that your side made a huge mistake and then you lived in a delusion of your own making. What an unprecedented turn of events for liberals.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1854064784351678941

Don't act like Trump didn't want Joe back.  We gambled and lost.  Trump won.  Now Trump will be the dictator he always wanted to be.  Enjoy your tariffs.

[Action80]

^LD doesn't understand tariffs.

[Lord Dave]

^LD doesn't understand tariffs.

Adding a "tax" to goods and services in order to have them imported with the goal of making prices for domestic products and services more competitive.


So a 20% tarrif for rice from China means any cost of the item will increase by about 20% for the end consumer.

You do understand that, yes?

[Action80]

^LD doesn't understand tariffs.

Adding a "tax" to goods and services in order to have them imported with the goal of making prices for domestic products and services more competitive.


So a 20% tarrif for rice from China means any cost of the item will increase by about 20% for the end consumer.

You do understand that, yes?

^LD doesn't understand tariffs are levied in terms of competitive restrictions, relating directly to where things are manufactured, not produced.

Tariffs are not necessarily levied against every single thing another country wants to export.

[AATW]

Kamala was not able to outperform Sleepy Joe in a single county. It seems that your side made a huge mistake

What was the mistake, replacing Biden?
I don't think so, if that's what you mean. You're comparing Biden in 2020 with Harris in 2024. What we can't know is how would Biden in 2024 have done compared with Biden in 2020. And my gut feeling, given Biden's mental state, is he would have fared even worse than Harris has. Obviously impossible to know for sure. The Democrats did the only thing they could reasonably do after that car crash debate.

Trump won in the US for the same reason Starmer did over here - people are pissed off with how things are going and want change.
Trump isn't going to fix their problems of course, he just had to say he would and that was enough.

[Action80]

If anything, the replacement of Biden with Harris (and the willingness of the US populace to allow such a thing to even occur) was the death knell for free and fair elections in the US. The entire process is stripped, naked, and shown to be a farce.

[Tom Bishop]

Kamala was not able to outperform Sleepy Joe in a single county. It seems that your side made a huge mistake

What was the mistake, replacing Biden?

Democrats are their own mistake. Through this entire Harris saga they have been producing and relying on polls where Harris was leading or almost even with Trump.

[AATW]

If anything, the replacement of Biden with Harris (and the willingness of the US populace to allow such a thing to even occur) was the death knell for free and fair elections in the US. The entire process is stripped, naked, and shown to be a farce.

How so?

I mean, I'd vaguely agree with the farce part - your system of democracy is pretty poor, as is ours in the UK. But you had a free and fair choice yesterday and you made your choice. You got it wrong of course, because people are idiots, but that's a separate discussion.

[Action80]

How so?

Please provide the number of primary votes received by the Democratic nominee for US President in 2024.

Thank you.

ETA: I realize the process of presidential primaries is not specified within or required by any part of the US Constitution.

PS: In the future, I believe it would be best for you and the rest to stop pretending. You are getting exactly what you want in terms of destabilization of the US constitutional republic.

[Rushy]

Perhaps in retrospect the Democrats can admit running a candidate who couldn't make it a few months in their primary was a bad idea.

[AATW]

Please provide the number of primary votes received by the Democratic nominee for US President in 2024.

I don't understand the US system but the Democratic nominee for US President in 2024 stood aside. I am presuming the Democrats then followed whatever process exists to select a new one. You may think that's an undemocratic process - I would probably agree, as I said there are similar ones here where people can vote for, say, Tony Blair as Prime Minister and then get Gordon Brown. The argument goes you don't vote for a PM so the party with the most MPs can change leader at any point. Which is all true, but there's no doubt that the leader of each party at the time of an election is a big factor in how people vote here.
But anyway, people still had a free choice between Harris and Trump - which is actually better than what I described in the UK where the leader of the ruling party can be replaced after an election and you then have a PM which no-one voted for.

What's your actual issue here? You weren't going to vote for Biden, you didn't vote for Harris.

PS: In the future, I believe it would be best for you and the rest to stop pretending. You are getting exactly what you want in terms of destabilization of the US constitutional republic.

I don't even know what any of that is supposed to mean.

[AATW]

Perhaps in retrospect the Democrats can admit running a candidate who couldn't make it a few months in their primary was a bad idea.

What was the other option though when Biden was so clearly unfit for office?

[Rushy]

Perhaps in retrospect the Democrats can admit running a candidate who couldn't make it a few months in their primary was a bad idea.

What was the other option though when Biden was so clearly unfit for office?

The other option was not hiding Biden's cognitive decline in the first place. Being "forced" to choose an extremely unpopular VP to run was a result of that bad decision. Had the DNC ran an actual primary instead of a farce, they might not be staring down the barrel of the reddest government the US has seen in decades.

[Lord Dave]

^LD doesn't understand tariffs.

Adding a "tax" to goods and services in order to have them imported with the goal of making prices for domestic products and services more competitive.


So a 20% tarrif for rice from China means any cost of the item will increase by about 20% for the end consumer.

You do understand that, yes?

^LD doesn't understand tariffs are levied in terms of competitive restrictions, relating directly to where things are manufactured, not produced.

Tariffs are not necessarily levied against every single thing another country wants to export.

... Did I say they were levied against every item from a country?  Tarrifs are by item from country, not a blanket all items from a country.  Unless you do that anyway.
And yes, rice from China had a tarriff. 

Trump has promised a blanket tarriff on ALL china made goods.  60% or more.  So.... Maybe go talk to him about what a tarriff is.

https://www.marketplace.org/2024/11/04/tariffs-trade-war-trump-election-taxes-import-duties-economy-taxes-china-mexico/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-candidate-trump-china-tariffs-we-have-do-it-2024-02-04/

[honk]

Perhaps in retrospect the Democrats can admit running a candidate who couldn't make it a few months in their primary was a bad idea.

What was the other option though when Biden was so clearly unfit for office?

The other option was not hiding Biden's cognitive decline in the first place. Being "forced" to choose an extremely unpopular VP to run was a result of that bad decision. Had the DNC ran an actual primary instead of a farce, they might not be staring down the barrel of the reddest government the US has seen in decades.

I agree. The Democratic leadership monumentally dropped the ball, and there need to be consequences for this.

[Lord Dave]

Perhaps in retrospect the Democrats can admit running a candidate who couldn't make it a few months in their primary was a bad idea.

What was the other option though when Biden was so clearly unfit for office?

The other option was not hiding Biden's cognitive decline in the first place. Being "forced" to choose an extremely unpopular VP to run was a result of that bad decision. Had the DNC ran an actual primary instead of a farce, they might not be staring down the barrel of the reddest government the US has seen in decades.

I agree. The Democratic leadership monumentally dropped the ball, and there need to be consequences for this.

The consequences being: MAGA style politics is now socially acceptable and encouraged because it works and will for a decade or two.

[Rushy]

Now that the election has been decided, the market is through the roof. My portfolio is printing very many dollar signs right now.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-fed-meeting-dow-nasdaq-sp500-live-11-06-2024

Free infinite money is back on the menu, boys.

[Lord Dave]

Well that's solidly depressing.

"Everything Trump wanted to be cheaper is now cheaper.  Everything he was against is now more expensive.  You're welcome."

[Tom Bishop]

There is no need for you guys to baww about this when the Democrats have set up perfectly sound backup Plan B and Plan C for this

Many on Reddit are beginning to say it doesn't matter and that you should stop crying: