Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2014, 10:39:00 PM »
They have some strange priorities.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2014, 05:34:35 AM »
My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2014, 02:01:16 PM »
My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.

Meaning the taking of the photo, not the sexy-time?
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2014, 04:34:20 PM »
There are a ton of holier-than-thou articles condemning anyone who looks at the photos, let alone partake in the Fappening. Some even go as far as to call this a sex crime.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2014, 04:51:33 PM »
There is definitely a severe privacy violation, but I can't condemn it any further than that.
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2014, 04:52:14 PM »
My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.
The problem is the item used to take the photo.  It was hacked and the pics downloaded
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2014, 05:11:20 PM »
There are a ton of holier-than-thou articles condemning anyone who looks at the photos, let alone partake in the Fappening. Some even go as far as to call this a sex crime.
Personally I think it's pretty shitty to look at them, but whatever.
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2014, 11:12:10 PM »
There are a ton of holier-than-thou articles condemning anyone who looks at the photos, let alone partake in the Fappening. Some even go as far as to call this a sex crime.
Personally I think it's pretty shitty to look at them, but whatever.

If you're taking nudies then uploading them onto a cloud service... what do you expect? Like Tom said, if you don't want people to see it... don't do it.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2014, 11:19:56 PM »
That's kind of a fucked up mentality though. You're blaming them for having personal sex lives.

Here's the article about it being a sex crime although I don't really agree with that. I do agree that it's not their fault their privacy was invaded but when you're a celebrity you are taking a risk with any nudes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/09/01/jennifer-lawrence-nude-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2014, 11:23:30 PM »
That's kind of a fucked up mentality though. You're blaming them for having personal sex lives.

Here's the article about it being a sex crime although I don't really agree with that. I do agree that it's not their fault their privacy was invaded but when you're a celebrity you are taking a risk with any nudes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/09/01/jennifer-lawrence-nude-photo-leak-isnt-a-scandal-its-a-sex-crime/

I'm not blaming them from having a sex life at all.  ???

I'm blaming them for being stupid. The internet is not safe. I don't care what apple tells you.

If you want to take nudes, cool. Try to keep them contained though, and by all means do not let them migrate to the web. I understand that their rights were violated according to apple's contract, but boo-hoo. You can't call this a sex crime without calling the actual photos a sex crime.

In a civilized world no one would give a fuck about this and it would be a non-issue.
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2014, 11:24:57 PM »
I don't blame them for this, it's clearly not their fault. But they do deserve criticism for being so lax with sensitive images, and allowing them to be uploaded to cloud services. Surely you can opt out of such things? Technology can bite you in the ass if you're not careful, hopefully they've learned that.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2014, 11:28:38 PM »
But some people are not very good with technology.

Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2014, 11:32:05 PM »
It's confirmed. Jennifer Lawrence is all I want or need in the world.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2014, 11:32:45 PM »
But some people are not very good with technology.

Sucks for them. Don't mess with something you don't understand.


Technology can bite you in the ass if you're not careful, hopefully they've learned that.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2014, 11:35:10 PM »
I need to know exactly how these pictures were found before I can make a better argument. Did he hack into webcams, cellphones, email?

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 11:41:54 PM »
I need to know exactly how these pictures were found before I can make a better argument. Did he hack into webcams, cellphones, email?

I'm not entirely sure. I've heard mixed things. A popular theory I read was that they were able to hack into their accounts by accessing their phones through an unsecured wi-fi network they were all using at a screening venue.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 11:44:08 PM »
My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.
So you're saying that celebrities shouldn't have any expectation to a private life?  ???
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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2014, 12:02:57 AM »
I need to know exactly how these pictures were found before I can make a better argument. Did he hack into webcams, cellphones, email?

I'm not entirely sure. I've heard mixed things. A popular theory I read was that they were able to hack into their accounts by accessing their phones through an unsecured wi-fi network they were all using at a screening venue.

Here's some more theories.

Well if he just guessed passwords then the victim is not at fault at all (unless they gave public hints or something similar). Then it wouldn't be a matter of "learn to technology" and just a matter of them being a high profile celebrity with smart people being dicks. Unfortunately, a lot of celebrities' info is out there so knowing the answer to a security question like "where was your dad born?" is relatively easy to find out.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2014, 12:08:50 AM »
I need to know exactly how these pictures were found before I can make a better argument. Did he hack into webcams, cellphones, email?

I'm not entirely sure. I've heard mixed things. A popular theory I read was that they were able to hack into their accounts by accessing their phones through an unsecured wi-fi network they were all using at a screening venue.

Here's some more theories.

Well if he just guessed passwords then the victim is not at fault at all (unless they gave public hints or something similar). Then it wouldn't be a matter of "learn to technology" and just a matter of them being a high profile celebrity with smart people being dicks. Unfortunately, a lot of celebrities' info is out there so knowing the answer to a security question like "where was your dad born?" is relatively easy to find out.

Yes, but that's not necessarily what happened. I think the hacker got control of their phones, their phones already had all their passwords saved, so it was just a matter of browsing their stuff at that point.

Regardless, no one is saying that being hacked was their fault. Getting hacked is no one's fault. Their fault was storing sensitive material on a cloud server.

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Re: Celebrity picture scandal
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2014, 12:12:45 AM »
I need to know exactly how these pictures were found before I can make a better argument. Did he hack into webcams, cellphones, email?

I'm not entirely sure. I've heard mixed things. A popular theory I read was that they were able to hack into their accounts by accessing their phones through an unsecured wi-fi network they were all using at a screening venue.

Here's some more theories.

Well if he just guessed passwords then the victim is not at fault at all (unless they gave public hints or something similar). Then it wouldn't be a matter of "learn to technology" and just a matter of them being a high profile celebrity with smart people being dicks. Unfortunately, a lot of celebrities' info is out there so knowing the answer to a security question like "where was your dad born?" is relatively easy to find out.

Yes, but that's not necessarily what happened. I think the hacker got control of their phones, their phones already had all their passwords saved, so it was just a matter of browsing their stuff at that point.

Regardless, no one is saying that being hacked was their fault. Getting hacked is no one's fault. Their fault was storing sensitive material on a cloud server.
Unless it wasn't stored on the cloud server.
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