*You are the only person in the world who claims this.*My previous message proved that EVERYONE at ESA and NASA knows and accepts the fact that for the LISA Space Antenna, the interferometer will record BOTH the Coriolis effect and the Sagnac effect.

In this work, we estimate the effects due to the Sagnac phase by taking the realistic model for LISA orbital motion.

This work is organized as follows: in section 2, we make an estimate of Sagnac phase

for individual laser beams of LISA by taking realistic orbital motion. Here we show that, in general, the residual laser noise because of Sagnac phase is much larger than earlier estimates.

For the LISA geometry, R⊙/L is of the order 30 and the orbital contribution to the Sagnac phase is larger by this factor.

The computations carried out by Dr. R.K. Nayak (over ten papers published on the subject) and Dr. J.Y. Vinet (Member of the LISA International Science Team), and published by prestigious scientific journals and by ESA, show that the orbital Sagnac is 30 times greater than the rotational Sagnac for LISA.

The same phenomenon is at work for the MGX and RLGs.

One has an interferometer which is rotating on the surface of a sphere: it will be subjected to both the Coriolis effect and to the Sagnac effect.

You still do not seem to understand what is going on.

Nobody is contending the existence of ether. The relativists have begun to fully accept this fact; they have to, since the GPS satellites do not record the orbital Sagnac effect.

If you agree that Michelson published the SAGNAC EFFECT formula, then the RE win hands down.

Can you understand that the Sagnac effect proves the ROTATION of the interferometer itself?

Here is a second proof, using Stokes' theorem:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2208660#msg2208660**According to Stokes' rule an integration of angular velocity Ω over an area A is substituted by an integration of tangential component of translational velocity v along the closed line of length L limiting the given area:**https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2023979#msg2023979In the case where the interferometer will be located away from the center of rotation (MGX/RLGs), there will be a factor of proportionality: R/L, where R = radius of the Earth.

This factor of proportionality was proven, for the first time, for the LISA Space Antenna, as shown above.

Thus we can see the huge discrepancy between the CORIOLIS EFFECT formula and the SAGNAC EFFECT formula for the MGX/RLGs (Michelson-Gale experiment/Ring Laser Gyroscopes).

There is NO velocity term for the CORIOLIS EFFECT formula: 4Aω/c

^{2}.

Therefore, if the interferometer itself is being rotated, and the RADIUS of rotation is R, then the SAGNAC EFFECT will be proportional to the velocity, V = R x ω.

A = L x l (long side multiplied by the short side)

Then, 4Aω = 4V

_{ω}l, where V

_{ω} = L x ω.

That is, the CORIOLIS EFFECT formula is equivalent to a SAGNAC EFFECT formula where the RADIUS of rotation now becomes L.

Since the RADIUS of rotation in the MGX/RLGs is actually the radius of the Earth, it becomes obvious that the SAGNAC EFFECT formula will be greater than the CORIOLIS EFFECT formula by at least a factor of R/l (interferometer in the shape of a rectangle), exactly the term found by CalTech and ESA for the LISA Space Antenna.