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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2014, 06:18:36 PM »
generally believed that light travels in a curved path that causes the phenomena of sunrise/sunset and moonrise/moonset

By who?

*By whom.

By flat earth believers.

*It is generally believed by flat Earth believers.

I am not sure that is true. Many flat Earth believers do not subscribe to Electromagnetic Acceleration including one or two (I cannot recall exactly at this moment) members of the Zetetic council.
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2014, 06:33:05 PM »
generally believed that light travels in a curved path that causes the phenomena of sunrise/sunset and moonrise/moonset

By who?

*By whom.

By flat earth believers.

*It is generally believed by flat Earth believers.

I am not sure that is true. Many flat Earth believers do not subscribe to Electromagnetic Acceleration including one or two (I cannot recall exactly at this moment) members of the Zetetic council.

Oh, I could be mistaken.  I was under the impression that generally all of us accepted some form of "bendy light," but I could be wrong about that.   Apologies if so.  Amend to "some of us believe."

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2014, 07:48:32 PM »
As far as I know Tom Bishop does not subscribe to it.  He always explains sunrise/sunset as a flaw in Classical perspective and through Atmospheric Magnification
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2014, 03:01:35 AM »
I guess... I will hold back my debate efforts until you guys get to an agreement? I don't mean to offend anyone by using wrong words.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2014, 03:12:08 AM »
It seems to me that bending light would directly contradict the results of water convexity experiments, such as the Bedford Levels experiment, that require light to travel in a straight line.
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2014, 07:13:21 PM »
I guess... I will hold back my debate efforts until you guys get to an agreement? I don't mean to offend anyone by using wrong words.

No one will take offense.  There are many interpretations of flat earth theory, and they don't all have to agree.

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2014, 03:17:18 PM »
For a map, look at the UN logo. It's a simple approximation.
The edge is either at the ice wall - known as Antarctica- beyond it, such as in The Book
 http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17001.0#.UzLvorsRegE

Or perhaps it's infinite. Simple answer is that we don't know.

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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2014, 09:35:26 AM »
For a map, look at the UN logo. It's a simple approximation.
The edge is either at the ice wall - known as Antarctica- beyond it, such as in The Book
 http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17001.0#.UzLvorsRegE

Or perhaps it's infinite. Simple answer is that we don't know.
Surely, easy enough to find out with technology.

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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2014, 11:45:28 AM »
Sure. Assuming someone can fund an expedition deep into Antarctica (more distant than anyone has yet ventured) plus supplies. if I had a few grand lying around maybe I would.

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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2014, 01:05:24 PM »
For a map, look at the UN logo. It's a simple approximation.
The edge is either at the ice wall - known as Antarctica- beyond it, such as in The Book
 http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17001.0#.UzLvorsRegE
Or perhaps it's infinite. Simple answer is that we don't know.
Surely, easy enough to find out with technology.
Or perhaps not, because how would you really know?  This is the fallacy of round earth thinking.  "Surely someone else has figured this out by now."  Round Earth thought is lazy intellectualism.

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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2014, 09:27:21 PM »
why don't the flat earthers launch a space capable vehicle I know you can launch it from the woomera test range in south Australia so theres nothing stopping you right
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2014, 10:19:58 PM »
For a map, look at the UN logo. It's a simple approximation.
The edge is either at the ice wall - known as Antarctica- beyond it, such as in The Book
 http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=17001.0#.UzLvorsRegE
Or perhaps it's infinite. Simple answer is that we don't know.
Surely, easy enough to find out with technology.
Or perhaps not, because how would you really know?  This is the fallacy of round earth thinking.  "Surely someone else has figured this out by now."  Round Earth thought is lazy intellectualism.
It is not 'round earth thinking'. It is the normal method of science and discovery.

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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2014, 05:13:01 AM »
The scientific method goes a little something like this; make something up, then see if you can prove it is true.  That is about it, is it not? 

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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2014, 11:24:04 AM »
The scientific method goes a little something like this; make something up, then see if you can prove it is true.  That is about it, is it not? 

No.
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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2014, 01:42:04 PM »
The scientific method goes a little something like this; make something up, then see if you can prove it is true.  That is about it, is it not?
The FE method goes a little something like this; make something up, then claim it's true without bothering to prove it.  That is about it, is it not?
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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2014, 11:42:02 AM »
seriously why haven't any flat earthers ever done any actual exploring to confirm what they predict. You all stand around saying nup round earth that's bull but then just produce theoretical models, well put your money where your mouth is actually fund a space capable rocket im pretty sure kickstarter could help y or maybe try to fly over thou there or fly a plan over the centre of Antarctica just do something rather than go here look at this model I drew cause that's being lazy
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2014, 05:29:33 PM »
I circumnavigated the plane and did extensive exploration of Australia. I resent your accusation and proclaim you a rogue and a scoundrel.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2014, 12:47:11 PM »
I circumnavigated the plane and did extensive exploration of Australia. I resent your accusation and proclaim you a rogue and a scoundrel.
best insult ever but have you got evidence of doing either of those things I haven't done either but can you show evidence you have
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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2014, 12:53:05 AM »
seriously why haven't any flat earthers ever done any actual exploring to confirm what they predict. You all stand around saying nup round earth that's bull but then just produce theoretical models, well put your money where your mouth is actually fund a space capable rocket im pretty sure kickstarter could help y or maybe try to fly over thou there or fly a plan over the centre of Antarctica just do something rather than go here look at this model I drew cause that's being lazy

Kickstart a space program.  Why didn't I think of that?  How hard could it be to put a human in orbit?

There's a reason real planes don't fly over the center of Antarctica.  They also don't fly over the North Pole, and there's a reason for that too.  Are they just being lazy?  I don't think so.  Why, then, don't "you round earthers" do some of your own research, eh?

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2014, 01:06:06 AM »
best insult ever but have you got evidence of doing either of those things I haven't done either but can you show evidence you have
If you're into photographic evidence, Parsifal and I have taken hundreds of pictures all around Australia. A subset of those can be found here.

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I guess I could scan some pages from my passport to provide evidence of my UK - USA - Australia - Malaysia - Sri Lanka - UK trip, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with doing that.
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