[Fortuna]

First we have the British chaps who look like they just want to go home and watch a nice game of football:


Then we have the American police who look like they're actually having fun dispersing riots:

[Shane]

Very cool! America slaps!

[disputeone]

Margarine is horrible stuff, to be fair.

I hope the police have paid their TV loicences so they can watch sportsball legally.

[Fortuna]

"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

[Dr David Thork]

Well the obvious difference is that in Britain you see police on the streets. In America you call them police but they are soldiers.

Note, US cops are not wearing high viz to be visible. They wear black like special ops. They wear combat trousers. They wear military boots. They carry guns and wear military helmets. They throw grenades. That's a soldier, not a policeman.

The point of police and why they were invented (in England first in the world) ... was because people didn't like having soldiers in their villages. Soldiers tend to shoot people and make people nervous. And so the police was born and 'policing by consent' became a thing. Walking in to town with an army is not policing by consent. It is occupation.

[Rama Set]

"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.

[markjo]

"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.

Or in your back:
https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/suspect-reportedly-stabbed-victim-20-times-with-a-butter-knife/1444871448

Peoria Police say Thurman Ellis used a butter knife to stab Edwards to death.

Ellis reportedly stabbed Edwards over 20 times in the back over an alleged drug deal earlier that day.

Ellis is charged with four counts of first degree murder.

[disputeone]

We must ban these butter knives at once, I never knew the dangers.

Let people spread butter with their fingers, or some sh*t. The benefits are not worth the risks for these assault butter knives.

Also forks.

[Luke 22:35-38]

Well the obvious difference is that in Britain you see police on the streets. In America you call them police but they are soldiers.

Note, US cops are not wearing high viz to be visible.

First off, British police uniforms aren't flashy, either. Second, US police do have high viz cross guard vests and coats.

They wear black like special ops.

Usually only SWAT, K9, and other high risk units that requires a lot of movement wear all black or OD green. The campus police where I work at wear black polo shirts and cargo pants.

They wear combat trousers.

Again, usually, around my area, the only police that wear combat pants are those in special units. Combat pants are light, durable, and comfortable, and inexpensive, especially compared to the polyester pants that is usually issued to police in my area. It's the reason why the campus police I work for wear them. Campus police hardly do anything so it really only make since.

They wear military boots.

Again, comfort and versatility. It really has little to do with trying to be military. Cops have to patrol areas that are less ideal for normal footwear. That's why some cops wear boots.

They carry guns

In a country with the highest private firearm ownership in the world. Also, Most of the rest of the world carry guns too. Britain is just being weird like with their driving. Who ever heard of driving on the left side of the road? 

and wear military helmets.

No US cop wears a helmet throughout their shift. Those things are heavy.

They throw grenades.

First off, it's usually special units like SWAT that have access to any sort of grenades. Second, US police don't use lethal grenades to my knowledge. They only use flash bangs and tear gas.

That's a soldier, not a policeman.

That's your opinion, not fact.

The point of police and why they were invented (in England first in the world) ... was because people didn't like having soldiers in their villages. Soldiers tend to shoot people and make people nervous. And so the police was born and 'policing by consent' became a thing. Walking in to town with an army is not policing by consent. It is occupation.

Again, your opinion about US police.

[AATW]

"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.

Or in your back:
https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/suspect-reportedly-stabbed-victim-20-times-with-a-butter-knife/1444871448

Peoria Police say Thurman Ellis used a butter knife to stab Edwards to death.

Ellis reportedly stabbed Edwards over 20 times in the back over an alleged drug deal earlier that day.

Ellis is charged with four counts of first degree murder.

How dairy!



Sorry.

[Luke 22:35-38]

So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.

[markjo]

Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

[Luke 22:35-38]

Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

I can't speak for the rest of the world but to call US police militaristic is strecthing the term at best.

[disputeone]

Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

I can't speak for the rest of the world but to call US police militaristic is strecthing the term at best.

I think that the thread title makes it clear they are comparing American and British Police. The average bobby doesn't carry a gun, they used to carry tonfa but HR changed their carry weapon to a big black dildo.

American police are far more militarized than Brittish police and slightly more militarized than Aussie police.

[Lord Dave]

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

[Luke 22:35-38]

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.

[Lord Dave]

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.

Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform? 

[Shifter]

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.

Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

Luke is a policeman. Part of his job requires him to make excuses for his murderous colleagues.

[Shifter]

Here is Thai police. Imagine the outcome if in America!

http://www.directexpose.com/police-officer-hug/

Luke, what's the protocol for American police if someone comes in their station screaming with a knife? Your colleague gunned down an aussie woman for approaching the police car after calling for help after all!



Tell me that's not a tear jerker!

[totallackey]

So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.

US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.