[FlatterThanMyGirlsChest]

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Long time member, first time poster.  I was going over the Flat Earth Society FAQs page with my buddy (he just doesn't quite get it), and he saw the animation (link above) of how we explain night and day.  It was the gif of the sun and moon traveling around the Earth with their circular patterns, and he made a pretty good point that I'm hoping one of you could help me debunk.  He asked me why the animation didn't show the light produced by the sun as a circle.  To be fair, if a light source is present above a flat object, it would produce a circle of light on that flat object, but this animation shows a more oval shape produced by the Sun.

Here are a few thoughts from my own head.  First of all, this is an animation, not real life.  No credible source has ever been to space, so we don't have a valid video of the sun going around the Earth.  In reality it should be more circular, but blame that on the animation, not the theory.  My second possible theory would be that the sun would make a circle of light on Earth, but the moon exists.  The darkness from the moon compresses the circular light pattern from the sun, which creates the oval shape instead of the circle.

Anyone have any other ideas or maybe can confirm that I'm right with one of my two?

Thanks! 

[totallackey]

https://wiki.tfes.org/images/thumb/7/70/SunAnimation.gif/270px-SunAnimation.gif

Long time member, first time poster.  I was going over the Flat Earth Society FAQs page with my buddy (he just doesn't quite get it), and he saw the animation (link above) of how we explain night and day.  It was the gif of the sun and moon traveling around the Earth with their circular patterns, and he made a pretty good point that I'm hoping one of you could help me debunk.  He asked me why the animation didn't show the light produced by the sun as a circle.  To be fair, if a light source is present above a flat object, it would produce a circle of light on that flat object, but this animation shows a more oval shape produced by the Sun.

Here are a few thoughts from my own head.  First of all, this is an animation, not real life.  No credible source has ever been to space, so we don't have a valid video of the sun going around the Earth.  In reality it should be more circular, but blame that on the animation, not the theory.  My second possible theory would be that the sun would make a circle of light on Earth, but the moon exists.  The darkness from the moon compresses the circular light pattern from the sun, which creates the oval shape instead of the circle.

Anyone have any other ideas or maybe can confirm that I'm right with one of my two?

Thanks! 

The Sun emits light but this does not mean the pattern would be circular in shape.

[FlatterThanMyGirlsChest]

I mean, logically, if you shine a lamp on a table, the lamp emits a circle of light over that table due to the nature of light.  Unless the sun had some sort of cone or other shading object around it, impeding the light it emitted, it would create a circle of light over the Earth.

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Here are a few thoughts from my own head.  First of all, this is an animation, not real life.

My guess is that the animation is a representation as to how it could work, not meant to truly represent reality, as you pointed out. From a construct perspective, you'd have to work out eclipses and equinoxes as well as the mechanics that afford the moon and sun their movements in this model. As it stands, those elements aren't represented here.

[iamcpc]

https://wiki.tfes.org/images/thumb/7/70/SunAnimation.gif/270px-SunAnimation.gif

Long time member, first time poster.  I was going over the Flat Earth Society FAQs page with my buddy (he just doesn't quite get it), and he saw the animation (link above) of how we explain night and day.  It was the gif of the sun and moon traveling around the Earth with their circular patterns, and he made a pretty good point that I'm hoping one of you could help me debunk.  He asked me why the animation didn't show the light produced by the sun as a circle.  To be fair, if a light source is present above a flat object, it would produce a circle of light on that flat object, but this animation shows a more oval shape produced by the Sun.

Here are a few thoughts from my own head.  First of all, this is an animation, not real life.  No credible source has ever been to space, so we don't have a valid video of the sun going around the Earth.  In reality it should be more circular, but blame that on the animation, not the theory.  My second possible theory would be that the sun would make a circle of light on Earth, but the moon exists.  The darkness from the moon compresses the circular light pattern from the sun, which creates the oval shape instead of the circle.

Anyone have any other ideas or maybe can confirm that I'm right with one of my two?

Thanks! 

The flat earth models which have a dome or firmament has a video showing how a light source can have a non circular light here:



A better question I would ask is how the map of the earth on that sun/moon cycle can possibly be accurate with know travel times/distances.

[MCToon]

This video is quite silly.

1. The light source is outside the dome.  I have not seen any FE proponents claiming the sun is outside the firmament/dome.
2. In order to get the light to illuminate the perimeter or Antarctica the light source was extremely low.  This does not match observation: on the southern solstice the sun traces a path directly above the tropic of capricorn.
3. If the sun were outside the dome, the optics don't work.  The dome material in this example is completely filling the inside space the earth is filled with air.  The refractive index of the magnifying dome is around 1.5*, the refractive index of air is very slightly above 1.0.  To be accurate the example dome would need to leave the inside hollowed out and filled with air.  When you do that you will find the optics no longer work at all.


* It's unknown if this is an acrylic or glass magnifying dome, but the refractive index of the materials are similar regardless.  It's near 1.5.  See the link below, you can look up the refractive index of several materials.
https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=3d&book=plastics&page=pmma

I love it when this video is used, it shows how ridiculous the AE map is.  Unfortunately, gullible people are fooled by it.

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This video is quite silly.

I think what the video actually conveys is that an earth sized paperweight would crush us all.

A better question I would ask is how the map of the earth on that sun/moon cycle can possibly be accurate with know travel times/distances.

Yes, one has to consider two things:

1) This mono-pole map is actually a globe projection centered on the north pole
2) If taken to be a true flat earth map, travel time/distances, especially south of the equator, do not fit with observable reality.