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Title: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 03, 2018, 09:07:24 PM
So I have a bad relationship with phones if you have followed the meme threads over the past few years (I buy new phones, then return them and go back to my iPhone 6). I didn't even bother updating the thread last year after I got a Note 8. But, I returned that. I tried an HTC 10 again (even though I already did that in 2016), gave it away. Ended up getting an iPhone X. Had that for a few months and sold it. Got a Note 8 again, as I got a sweet deal on it. Sold it after a month. Got an iPhone 8+ in Red, returned it. My old iPhone 6 needed some replacement parts so I decided just to get a 6s to tide me over, returned that (bought the parts, fixed my 6).

Autumn of 2018 is when the nonsense finally stops. I am getting a new phone and sticking to it no matter what*. I've narrowed my list down and will make the final decision this month. The contenders are:

Google Pixel 3 (not the meme XL)
Apple iPhone XR
Samsung Note 9
OnePlus 6T


* For at least one year+

+I reserve the right to change my mind at anytime
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 03, 2018, 09:23:34 PM
Being as you have apple and android choices ... I'm guessing you don't have a store account full of paid apps.  :-B

This means you probably don't use apps very much.  :-B

This will include games and fancy software.  :-B

This means you don't need a flagship phone.  :-B

This means you are only buying a flagship phone because you are worried about what other people think when you pull your phone out.  :-B

I gave up on expensive phones a long time ago. All I use a phone for is calling people, texting and checking my e-mails. I don't even use social media on them ... but then I'm not glued to my phone like many people. Personally I'd get a phone running on KaiOS like the Nokia 3310. Its all I need. + it has snake.


But if you like flagship phones, CAT make a pretty cool flagship phone and the bastard is indestructible. It even has a laser distance measurer and a thermal imaging camera ... which I guess could be used to look at women's tits. ??? Somehow it even measures air quality and tell you when you are being poisoned. Oh, and the battery on those things last forever. Its CAT. They have a boner for rugged tools.
https://www.catphones.com/en_gb/cat-s61-smartphone.html

If I wanted a flagship phone, that's the one I'd get, and then I wouldn't have to worry about dropping it.

(https://www.catphones.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/v/b/vb1133573_s61-master-frontangled-uh_2.png) (https://www.catphones.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/v/b/vb1154431_s61-angled-8_0001_2.png)
(https://www.catphones.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/e9c3970ab036de70892d86c6d221abfe/v/b/vb1159994_s61-ortho-sml_2.png)
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 03, 2018, 09:45:42 PM
Being as you have apple and android choices ... I'm guessing you don't have a store account full of paid apps.  :-B
I have quite a few in both stores (games). Don't play games much anymore, though.

This means you probably don't use apps very much.  :-B
I have about 25 apps I use on a regular basis.

This means you don't need a flagship phone.  :-B
Aside from a flagship camera, I don't need a flagship phone.

This means you are only buying a flagship phone because you are worried about what other people think when you pull your phone out.  :-B
lmao no. If that were the case I wouldn't still be using this run-down, dented iPhone 6 that I have been rocking for 4 years now (replaced the screen/digitizer twice, battery, and the lighting/3.5mm assembly). I am going to get a flagship primarily for the camera and hopefully decent OS support (updates).

But if you like flagship phones, CAT make a pretty cool flagship phone and the bastard is indestructible.
Yes, I have seen the meme CAT phones. They are pretty cool. But no.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 03, 2018, 09:50:51 PM
The Huawei P20 Pro has a 40mp camera.

That is all. I know nothing more about phones.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 03, 2018, 09:52:24 PM
Why did you return all those phones?  Even the 6s which is basically the 6.




The Huawei P20 Pro has a 40mp camera.

That is all. I know nothing more about phones.


Didn't you write apps for iPhones?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 03, 2018, 09:56:06 PM
Why did you return all those phones?  Even the 6s which is basically the 6.

Excellent question. Call it a hobby.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 03, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Didn't you write apps for iPhones?
Haven't done a bespoke app for donkey's. Its all web apps now or websites that are mobile friendly. Few people want an iOS or Android app. They are and always have been a waste of money. Only now, businesses have learnt the lesson and stopped buying them.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: disputeone on October 04, 2018, 02:14:57 AM
I also go through a lot of phones, mainly samsungs. Thork you're right, its mainly just consumerism.

Saying that I want this for my car, I think I'll buy it, i can kind of justify it because I use maps and my music app a lot.
https://www.amazon.com/PUMPKIN-Android-Stereo-Support-Fastboot/dp/B079N9XDFT/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538619268&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pumpkin+car+stereo&dpPl=1&dpID=51k4ps4fxHL&ref=plSrch
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 04, 2018, 02:32:21 AM
The iPhone XR is the only good phone of 2018. I'll be be upgrading from my 6S to one in a few weeks.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 04, 2018, 06:34:10 AM
Why did you return all those phones?  Even the 6s which is basically the 6.

Excellent question. Call it a hobby.


Then I recommend keeping your i6 until its forever dead or so slow as to frustrate you beyond belief.  THEN buy the latest apple.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 04, 2018, 07:52:46 AM
Um that isn't quite how hobbies work.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 04, 2018, 10:39:47 AM
Poking a phone is a hobby?

Why not go out and buy the world's most expensive toaster? A flagship toaster. It'll have dozens of settings you'll never use, it'll do crumpets and bagels, it'll be able to preload toast and toast at a time you set for later and it will know what time zone you're in.

I can understand why BUILDING a top class PC is a hobby. Buying an expensive PC isn't a hobby. Maybe playing games is on that PC ... but you are saying just 'owning a flagship phone' is a hobby. It isn't. It is consumerism.  Buying a fast car could be a hobby if you take it to the track and race it and upgrade it or you polish and maintain it or take it to shows. And if you have just one phone at a time you aren't collecting them like a stamp collector or a pokemon collector. The point of a hobby is that you do something. Either build, repair, collect or compete.

This isn't a hobby. You need to be honest with yourself and look at why you are making expensive impulse purchases. You are likely doing it to impress other people. Just dismissing it as 'a hobby' is a lie. Its not. You have a weakness for the advertising of these products and have found yourself susceptible. Rather than face that negative weakness, you instead dismiss it as a positive hobby. You should face up to your weakness and address it. Otherwise you'll be fined every time something else shiny appears.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on October 04, 2018, 03:06:40 PM
I can understand why BUILDING a top class PC is a hobby. Buying an expensive PC isn't a hobby. Maybe playing games is on that PC ... but you are saying just 'owning a flagship phone' is a hobby. It isn't. It is consumerism.


I agree with Thork, which is uhh, uhh, hmm, I'll think over my position, but for now I agree with this.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 04, 2018, 03:14:34 PM
I can understand why BUILDING a top class PC is a hobby. Buying an expensive PC isn't a hobby. Maybe playing games is on that PC ... but you are saying just 'owning a flagship phone' is a hobby. It isn't. It is consumerism.


I agree with Thork, which is uhh, uhh, hmm, I'll think over my position, but for now I agree with this.
To be fair, I think Junker's hobby isn't "owning" flagship phones but rather "Returning" flagship phones.  Or at the very least "Testing" phones.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Pete Svarrior on October 04, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Meh, if the man likes buying phones, dicking about with them, and returning them or pawning them off to someone, that's his business. He's not harming anyone and (I think) it's not affecting his personal finances or life in any major way, so what's the issue?

We should encourage our good man Junker. Maybe one day he can become a famous YouTube tech reviewer.

As for phones: perhaps try to define some criteria that would make the decision for you? Here are some examples I'd consider:

Of course, I pretty much just discounted every major modern phone. Your priorities may vary, or you may want to pick the "least worst" option. Still, that's the approach I'd take.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 04, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
Poking a phone is a hobby?

Why not go out and buy the world's most expensive toaster? A flagship toaster. It'll have dozens of settings you'll never use, it'll do crumpets and bagels, it'll be able to preload toast and toast at a time you set for later and it will know what time zone you're in.

I can understand why BUILDING a top class PC is a hobby. Buying an expensive PC isn't a hobby. Maybe playing games is on that PC ... but you are saying just 'owning a flagship phone' is a hobby. It isn't. It is consumerism.  Buying a fast car could be a hobby if you take it to the track and race it and upgrade it or you polish and maintain it or take it to shows. And if you have just one phone at a time you aren't collecting them like a stamp collector or a pokemon collector. The point of a hobby is that you do something. Either build, repair, collect or compete.

This isn't a hobby. You need to be honest with yourself and look at why you are making expensive impulse purchases. You are likely doing it to impress other people. Just dismissing it as 'a hobby' is a lie. Its not. You have a weakness for the advertising of these products and have found yourself susceptible. Rather than face that negative weakness, you instead dismiss it as a positive hobby. You should face up to your weakness and address it. Otherwise you'll be fined every time something else shiny appears.
Thork, can you stop projecting your insecurities on to me please? I don't give a shit what other people think of my phone(s). You could have asked questions about why I do this, but instead you chose your usual route of making up a story in your own head (likely influenced by your own issues) and stating it like it is someone else's reality. I buy phones to tinker, then get bored. I root and unlock bootloaders on Android phones where possible, and try out a lot of custom ROMs. I jailbreak Apple memephones. Then I get bored, rinse and repeat. I have several other phones that I still tinker with, like my Xperia X which I will eventually load Sailfish OS on to one day. And a Z2 Force which is actually a decent phone. Anyway, you know fuck all about me, and since you aren't actually interested, I'll ask you not to shit up my thread with your nonsense.


To be fair, I think Junker's hobby isn't "owning" flagship phones but rather "Returning" flagship phones.  Or at the very least "Testing" phones.
Testing and tinkering is the hobby. And it isn't like I only do it with flagship phones, that is just what this thread happens to be about.


Meh, if the man likes buying phones, dicking about with them, and returning them or pawning them off to someone, that's his business. He's not harming anyone and (I think) it's not affecting his personal finances or life in any major way, so what's the issue?

We should encourage our good man Junker. Maybe one day he can become a famous YouTube tech reviewer.

As for phones: perhaps try to define some criteria that would make the decision for you? Here are some examples I'd consider:
  • Get something that's not Apple because Apple treats their consumers like shit and is actively trying to reduce consumer rights in the US and worldwide. They don't deserve you as a blip in their statistics, even if it's relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of things. If someone takes a shit on your lap, the conventional approach is not to ask for more.
  • If it has a meme "notch", it should be put at the back of the queue. Why would you buy something that serves no purpose, but which increases the likelihood of your shit breaking?
  • To a lesser extent, the same thought applies to any phone that's glued together

Of course, I pretty much just discounted every major modern phone. Your priorities may vary, or you may want to pick the "least worst" option. Still, that's the approach I'd take.
My man Pete finally bringing a little sense back into the thread. I actually agree with a lot of your criteria. The only phone that ticks all the boxes from a hardware perspective are the Samsung phones (no notch, SD card, headphone jack), but yeah all the new flagships have glued on screens that make replacing them a tedious and expensive endeavor. I just don't care for Samsung's skin (formerly TouchWiz aka TouchJizz, now Samsung Experience aka SEx). Anyway, it is the details like this that keep me indecisive about what I want in a daily driver for a phone. That is why this thread exists. I am committing to figuring it out and making a decision.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 04, 2018, 06:17:39 PM
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Testing and tinkering is the hobby. And it isn't like I only do it with flagship phones, that is just what this thread happens to be about.
Thank you.  That is what I wanted to know.  When I asked you just said "Call it a hobby" and left me think that returning them was the hobby.

Anyway...
I'd go with the samsung too.  Yes the bigger screen would drive me nuts but SD card and headphone jack are a must for me.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on October 04, 2018, 08:58:23 PM
I'm p sure I've told you to get a Pixel in the last few threads. I stand by it.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 04, 2018, 09:25:45 PM
I'm p sure I've told you to get a Pixel in the last few threads. I stand by it.

As long as Tuesday goes as expected and I can get over no SD card and headphone jack, that is the plan. I think I've abandoned the idea of getting a 6T, so it is down to 3 phones at this point (Pixel / XR / Note 9).
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 04, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
I'm p sure I've told you to get a Pixel in the last few threads. I stand by it.

As long as Tuesday goes as expected and I can get over no SD card and headphone jack, that is the plan. I think I've abandoned the idea of getting a 6T, so it is down to 3 phones at this point (Pixel / XR / Note 9).
How will you handle no headphone jack?  Bluetooth earbuds?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 04, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
I'm p sure I've told you to get a Pixel in the last few threads. I stand by it.

As long as Tuesday goes as expected and I can get over no SD card and headphone jack, that is the plan. I think I've abandoned the idea of getting a 6T, so it is down to 3 phones at this point (Pixel / XR / Note 9).
How will you handle no headphone jack?  Bluetooth earbuds?
I have some shitty BT buds, but most likely just a dongle since my wired cans/buds are way better. My Z2 Force has a dongle and it works fine.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on October 05, 2018, 12:52:28 AM
I thought I'd miss the headphone jack but I virtually never need it. 99% of the time I listen to music is at my computer with my amp, the 1% of the time I'd like to listen to music with my phone the dongle is hardly the most cumbersome or annoying thing in the chain.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 05, 2018, 05:01:23 AM
The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: disputeone on October 05, 2018, 07:31:01 AM
The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that. It's not like different brands are any different. I've got a rooted s4 with a custom UI which I feel reasonably safe on but I accept privacy is dead.

Also this.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/10/04/the-chinese-spy-chip-story-is-a-reminder-of-how-insecure-our-digital-world-really-is/#7044b6f07e13
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 05, 2018, 07:47:17 PM
The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that. It's not like different brands are any different. I've got a rooted s4 with a custom UI which I feel reasonably safe on but I accept privacy is dead.

Also this.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/10/04/the-chinese-spy-chip-story-is-a-reminder-of-how-insecure-our-digital-world-really-is/#7044b6f07e13

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/why-microsoft-and-apple-dont-need-to-sell-your-data/
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Parsifal on October 06, 2018, 11:41:32 AM
I've already pointed out that the Gemini is the best option numerous times.

The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that.

Incorrect. Not even all Android phones do that. If you don't want your data sent to Google, install a custom OS (such as LineageOS) that does not include Google Apps. But be ready for apps that rely on Google services to be completely broken.

Then there's SailfishOS, which should be coming out for my Gemini Real Soon Now.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rama Set on October 06, 2018, 04:50:41 PM
Isn’t Sailfish the Star Citizen of mobile OSes?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 07, 2018, 03:06:45 AM
Isn’t Sailfish the Star Citizen of mobile OSes?

So it's the best OS?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: disputeone on October 08, 2018, 12:21:22 AM
The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that. It's not like different brands are any different. I've got a rooted s4 with a custom UI which I feel reasonably safe on but I accept privacy is dead.

Also this.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/10/04/the-chinese-spy-chip-story-is-a-reminder-of-how-insecure-our-digital-world-really-is/#7044b6f07e13

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/why-microsoft-and-apple-dont-need-to-sell-your-data/

I've already pointed out that the Gemini is the best option numerous times.

The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that.

Incorrect.

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1dbgtfv/1538695287523.gif)

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/heres-how-surveillance-in-america-drastically-changed-after-911-2012-8?r=US&IR=T

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The new reality that followed 9/11 led NSA whistleblower William Binney to resign after “the NSA began purposefully violating the Constitution” in the process of gathering information on virtually every U.S. citizen.

Government spying capabilities are vast, including everything from general hacking techniques learned from Germany to a new FBI domestic wireless surveillance unit to the massive spy campaign on Occupy Wall Street run by the post-9/11 Department of Homeland Security.

American tech companies like Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Google and various mobile carriers are reportedly turning over user information.

Meanwhile, the NSA hired Israeli contractors to bug the telecommunications network and is in the process of building a $2 billion spy centre.

Shut it down!
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 08, 2018, 02:16:05 AM
The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that. It's not like different brands are any different. I've got a rooted s4 with a custom UI which I feel reasonably safe on but I accept privacy is dead.

Also this.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/10/04/the-chinese-spy-chip-story-is-a-reminder-of-how-insecure-our-digital-world-really-is/#7044b6f07e13

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/why-microsoft-and-apple-dont-need-to-sell-your-data/

I've already pointed out that the Gemini is the best option numerous times.

The Pixel phones sure cost a lot for being information sieves for Google. Considering they're collecting and selling all of your information, you'd think they'd give you a discount.

All phones do that.

Incorrect.

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1dbgtfv/1538695287523.gif)

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/heres-how-surveillance-in-america-drastically-changed-after-911-2012-8?r=US&IR=T

Quote
The new reality that followed 9/11 led NSA whistleblower William Binney to resign after “the NSA began purposefully violating the Constitution” in the process of gathering information on virtually every U.S. citizen.

Government spying capabilities are vast, including everything from general hacking techniques learned from Germany to a new FBI domestic wireless surveillance unit to the massive spy campaign on Occupy Wall Street run by the post-9/11 Department of Homeland Security.

American tech companies like Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Google and various mobile carriers are reportedly turning over user information.

Meanwhile, the NSA hired Israeli contractors to bug the telecommunications network and is in the process of building a $2 billion spy centre.

Shut it down!

I doubt the NSA sells user data.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on October 08, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Also TIL all phones are in the US.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on October 08, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
fun fact:https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/14/u-s-intelligence-agencies-are-still-warning-against-buying-huawei-and-zte-phones/

The Huawei phones are very common here.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 09, 2018, 04:13:33 PM
Pixel 3 starting at $799... Google thinking they are Apple now lmao.

Time to rethink things again...
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Parsifal on October 09, 2018, 09:34:18 PM
Time to rethink things again...

Why are you dancing around buying the Gemini?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 18, 2018, 03:39:53 AM
>tfw still can't decide

may as well give up and get a gemini at this point
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 19, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
Okay well I bought an iPhone XS, which wasn't on my list, but whatever, I got a good trade in deal on my old crappy iPhone 6 so it worked out. And now that the 6 is gone, I can no longer use it as my crutch.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 19, 2018, 06:49:49 PM
Okay well I bought an iPhone XS, which wasn't on my list, but whatever, I got a good trade in deal on my old crappy iPhone 6 so it worked out. And now that the 6 is gone, I can no longer use it as my crutch.

(https://media.wired.com/photos/5a9f462252430e4b5eb949d8/master/w_315,c_limit/pl_receng_isheep_f.jpg)
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 19, 2018, 07:15:54 PM
Okay well I bought an iPhone XS, which wasn't on my list, but whatever, I got a good trade in deal on my old crappy iPhone 6 so it worked out. And now that the 6 is gone, I can no longer use it as my crutch.

(https://media.wired.com/photos/5a9f462252430e4b5eb949d8/master/w_315,c_limit/pl_receng_isheep_f.jpg)

Quality post...
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 21, 2018, 12:47:14 AM
Okay well I bought an iPhone XS, which wasn't on my list, but whatever, I got a good trade in deal on my old crappy iPhone 6 so it worked out. And now that the 6 is gone, I can no longer use it as my crutch.


(http://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/3/36343401.jpg)

That T-Mobile deal is pretty dank. I’m also trading in my 6s and getting an XR.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on October 22, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
Hopefully no one here got a Pixel 3.

https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/22/iphone-xs-max-beats-google-pixel-3-xl/
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 24, 2018, 12:47:37 AM
I have the Pixel 3 XL. There have been zero issues with it. Pixel 3 has loud speakers, superior camera post-processing, stock Android software, and Google integrated AI. If there are any memory management issues they will be fixed with a software update in the near future.

The notch reminds me of a king's crown and looks great.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on October 24, 2018, 04:04:55 AM
I have the Pixel 3 XL. There have been zero issues with it. Pixel 3 has loud speakers, superior camera post-processing, stock Android software, and Google integrated AI. If there are any memory management issues they will be fixed with a software update in the near future.

The notch reminds me of a king's crown and looks great.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as stock Android, is in fact, Android Open Source Project plus Google customizations. I've recently taken to calling it, AOSP+G. Google doesn't utilize stock Android by itself, but rather their proprietary customizations of a fully functioning system made useful by the Android Open Source Project.

But also, Tom, how are you even using a Pixel. It is the antithesis of everything you stand for... I know the camera is good, but is it worth it to sacrifice any semblance  of privacy for for a generic piece of hardware with a great camera?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 24, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
Other vendors significantly mess around with the Android OS. Google's OS has better compatibility with stock android and will be patched more frequently than Samsung:

https://android.gadgethacks.com/news/pixel-3-xl-vs-galaxy-note-9-best-android-compared-0188411/

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Also, Samsung has been notoriously bad at pushing the Android monthly security patches, unlike the Pixel devices. Pixel 3 XL will get security patches for three years in addition to two letter updates (Android Q and Android R). While the Galaxy Note 9 should get a letter update, it will more than likely stop at Android P and stay behind in security patches, leaving it vulnerable to exploits that Google already patched.

Per privacy, many companies will attempt to sell your information, not just Google. Apple sells your information. There is no way to get around it. Further, most android phones already have Google's voice assistant, YouTube, and Google's apps installed. Buying a Samsung phone and installing Google Apps really means that you have to split your trust across multiple companies.

As far as other features besides camera, I have noticed the following:

- Suspected spam callers are marked in red when a call is received, with an easy block button
- Incoming phone calls can be sent to the google screening service, which translates the caller's message to text in real time, allowing one to answer and take the call
- You can tell Google to book a reservation at a restaurant at a certain time and the AI will call and book on your behalf
- The phone seems smart enough to tell when you are in a meeting, and will vibrate rather than ring, despite the ringer being on -- which has been useful
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Parsifal on October 24, 2018, 06:33:21 PM
Other vendors significantly mess around with the Android OS. Google's OS has better compatibility with stock android and will be patched more frequently than Samsung:

Frequency of patches means nothing when the fragmented state of the ARM hardware ecosystem means each device has its own Linux kernel fork that is already out of date by the time the device is released. In two years, you'll be running a three- (if you're lucky) year-old OS with "patches".

Incoming phone calls can be sent to the google screening service

Remind me never to call you.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on October 24, 2018, 09:40:55 PM
Incoming phone calls can be sent to the google screening service

Remind me never to call you.

Google screening is designed to intercept robots.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/google-wants-help-screen-those-incessant-robocalls-n918766

Oh ... robots, I see why that might be an issue for you. Google seems to have you cornered.

Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 11, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
So I have a Pixel 3 now and don't have an iPhone XS anymore.

Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 11, 2019, 07:13:46 PM
congrats.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 11, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
congrats.

No.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Parsifal on February 11, 2019, 07:23:37 PM
So I have a Pixel 3 now and don't have an iPhone XS anymore.

Too bad it's not 2018.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 12, 2019, 07:30:50 PM
So I have a Pixel 3 now and don't have an iPhone XS anymore.

Did you not like the XS? Also, funny you giving Tom shit about privacy then turning around only months later and getting a Google Big Brother phone anyway.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 12, 2019, 09:37:14 PM
Did you not like the XS?
The XS is a nice phone.

Also, funny you giving Tom shit about privacy then turning around only months later and getting a Google Big Brother phone anyway.
The camera is in fact worth it, so I answered my own question.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 12, 2019, 10:50:29 PM
congrats.

No.


Why?

Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on February 13, 2019, 11:47:55 AM
The camera is in fact worth it, so I answered my own question.

mmmmm it's so nice

I'm guessing you've tried out Night Sight? That shit is magic.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 13, 2019, 01:20:22 PM
How good is it?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 13, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
I'm guessing you've tried out Night Sight? That shit is magic.
I did. Probably the last thing that made me convert.


How good is it?
That shit is magic.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 13, 2019, 06:36:33 PM
So is my phones camera.  I took a night sky picture and got stars in it.  As well as a few other that looked gorgeous.  What makes the google pixel so great?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 13, 2019, 11:07:01 PM
What makes the google pixel so great?

It does all the things the best.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 14, 2019, 12:54:22 AM
Looking forward to the S10 Super-Mega-Galaxy-Ultra-Edition reveal. After reading the leak specs it might be a phone I'll end up getting.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 14, 2019, 02:57:05 AM
Need a 2019 thread tbh.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 14, 2019, 05:09:56 AM
Need a 2019 thread tbh.

Might as well just rename the thread to "Junker gets a new phone" since it's not like you've limited yourself to annual, or even semi-annual, updates.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on February 14, 2019, 06:30:29 AM
How's the battery life on the Backdoor 3?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 14, 2019, 05:54:27 PM
How's the battery life on the Backdoor 3?

Pretty good so far. My stats show a full charge lasts me about 1 day and 11 hours. Obviously less on the days with more SoT. I charged recently so I don't have a useful number for SoT since the last charge.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 21, 2019, 12:53:57 AM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 21, 2019, 01:34:11 AM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.

Get the 1TB S10+

Save $130 with a student discount from Samsung, unless your carrier has a better deal.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 21, 2019, 02:06:29 AM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.

Get the 1TB S10+

Save $130 with a student discount from Samsung, unless your carrier has a better deal.

Yes, because I definitely want to pay $1400 for a meme phone with almost as much storage as my desktop.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 21, 2019, 02:37:14 AM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.

Get the 1TB S10+

Save $130 with a student discount from Samsung, unless your carrier has a better deal.

Yes, because I definitely want to pay $1400 for a meme phone with almost as much storage as my desktop.

That sounds exactly like Rushy.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 21, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.

Get the 1TB S10+

Save $130 with a student discount from Samsung, unless your carrier has a better deal.

Yes, because I definitely want to pay $1400 for a meme phone with almost as much storage as my desktop.

That sounds exactly like Rushy.

very rude, anyway I'm getting the S10 because the S10+ dimensions are too big. Both the S10 and S10+ are significantly larger than my current phone, in fact they're both larger than my phone with its otter defender case on (which adds 5 mm on each side). The only advantage of the S10+ that I see is the bigger battery and extra front camera, both of which aren't really worth the extra price or the extra hassle of having a phone that's even larger than a Note.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: StapleBattery on February 21, 2019, 02:30:15 PM
Should I get the S10 or S10+? The S10+ is bigger than the Note9 lmao.

Get the 1TB S10+

Save $130 with a student discount from Samsung, unless your carrier has a better deal.

Yes, because I definitely want to pay $1400 for a meme phone with almost as much storage as my desktop.

That sounds exactly like Rushy.

very rude, anyway I'm getting the S10 because the S10+ dimensions are too big. Both the S10 and S10+ are significantly larger than my current phone, in fact they're both larger than my phone with its otter defender case on (which adds 5 mm on each side). The only advantage of the S10+ that I see is the bigger battery and extra front camera, both of which aren't really worth the extra price or the extra hassle of having a phone that's even larger than a Note.
No meme phone, then.
Harumph.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Baby Thork on February 21, 2019, 02:51:26 PM
Samsung just dropped the Galaxy Fold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgIA5EP_-wc

Yours for $2000. A bargain. 6 cameras, it folds, it has lots of screens, it can run 3 apps at once ...

$2000.

$2000.

2000 fucking dollars!  >o<
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 21, 2019, 08:47:08 PM
I have preordered an unlocked S10. Here's hoping it turns out as good as Samsung says it is.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: StapleBattery on February 22, 2019, 02:48:38 AM
I have preordered an unlocked S10+. Here's hoping it turns out as good as Samsung says it is.
Fixed.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rama Set on February 22, 2019, 07:06:48 PM
I have preordered an unlocked S10+. Here's hoping it doesn't burn my face off.
Fixed.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 22, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
I am tempted to get one just so Rushy doesn't have a newer phone than me.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 22, 2019, 11:17:50 PM
I am tempted to get one just so Rushy doesn't have a newer phone than me.

Do it
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 22, 2019, 11:28:59 PM
I want to be a real idiot and get the 5G. If only it had meme levels of RAM and expandable storage.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on February 23, 2019, 03:53:23 AM
The new Samesungs look pretty good. Apple is lagging behind a little this generation.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 04:32:04 AM
I think I have no choice but to get one at this point.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 23, 2019, 04:37:16 AM
I think I have no choice but to get one at this point.

We can be phone buddies!
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 05:12:54 AM
I think I have no choice but to get one at this point.

We can be phone buddies!

I have the 1TB/12GB ceramic white S10+ in my cart for pre-order. Just have to click the button...
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 23, 2019, 02:10:32 PM
I think I have no choice but to get one at this point.

We can be phone buddies!

I have the 1TB/12GB ceramic white S10+ in my cart for pre-order. Just have to click the button...

Why aren't you getting the folding phone, cheapskate?
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 05:55:56 PM
I think I have no choice but to get one at this point.

We can be phone buddies!

I have the 1TB/12GB ceramic white S10+ in my cart for pre-order. Just have to click the button...

Why aren't you getting the folding phone, cheapskate?

Thanks just bought 25K.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 06:56:35 PM
Also the meme phone is still in my cart. I can't commit.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 23, 2019, 07:15:57 PM
Also the meme phone is still in my cart. I can't commit.

But then I'm going to have a newer and objectively better phone than you.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 07:36:03 PM
Also the meme phone is still in my cart. I can't commit.

But then I'm going to have a newer and objectively better phone than you.

Faster phone. I'll still take better pictures if I keep the Pixel 3 though. Samsung can put 9 cameras on the back and it still won't be as good as the Pixel's single camera with Google's software wizardry.

But also I want the new hotness. Quite a dilemma.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 23, 2019, 07:50:32 PM
Also the meme phone is still in my cart. I can't commit.

But then I'm going to have a newer and objectively better phone than you.

Faster phone. I'll still take better pictures if I keep the Pixel 3 though. Samsung can put 9 cameras on the back and it still won't be as good as the Pixel's single camera with Google's software wizardry.

But also I want the new hotness. Quite a dilemma.

The S10 is objectively better than the Pixel 3. It doesn't matter how good your camera is, the phone will always be made by Google and you can never undo that.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 08:02:29 PM
Also the meme phone is still in my cart. I can't commit.

But then I'm going to have a newer and objectively better phone than you.

Faster phone. I'll still take better pictures if I keep the Pixel 3 though. Samsung can put 9 cameras on the back and it still won't be as good as the Pixel's single camera with Google's software wizardry.

But also I want the new hotness. Quite a dilemma.

The S10 is objectively better than the Pixel 3. It doesn't matter how good your camera is, the phone will always be made by Google and you can never undo that.

>mfw Rushy uses words he objectively doesn't understand
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Parsifal on February 23, 2019, 08:30:56 PM
The S10 is objectively better than the Pixel 3. It doesn't matter how good your camera is, the phone will always be made by Google and you can never undo that.

I'd take a Google phone over a Samsung phone tbh. And you know what I think of Google.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 23, 2019, 09:21:46 PM
>mfw Rushy uses words he objectively doesn't understand

Sounds like you're just jelly you can't preorder an amazing meme phone.

The S10 is objectively better than the Pixel 3. It doesn't matter how good your camera is, the phone will always be made by Google and you can never undo that.

I'd take a Google phone over a Samsung phone tbh. And you know what I think of Google.

No one asked you, get out.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: junker on February 23, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
>mfw Rushy uses words he objectively doesn't understand

Sounds like you're just jelly you can't preorder an amazing meme phone.

I am actually a little jelly. Dex would be lit on the 855 with 12GB
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Rushy on February 24, 2019, 12:31:56 AM
I am actually a little jelly. Dex would be lit on the 855 with 12GB

With a SD card you could have 1500 GB of storage on a phone along with your 12 GB RAM. A deal that can't be passed up.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: StapleBattery on February 25, 2019, 04:13:38 PM
get the meme phone
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on February 26, 2019, 03:33:40 AM
So is my phones camera.  I took a night sky picture and got stars in it.  As well as a few other that looked gorgeous.  What makes the google pixel so great?

What phone do you have? I've not seen a single phone camera that works wizardry like Night Sight does (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/14/18092660/google-night-sight-review-pixel-2-3-camera-photos-image-quality).

Faster phone.

tbh I'm not even confident about that, given Samsung's wondrous reputation for bloated phones that very rapidly become glorified slugs.

I actually got to play with the S10+ a couple weeks before it was announced when our Samsung rep held a secret backroom meeting with management that I got to join in on, and while it was pretty neat I wasn't super impressed. Samsung's still got it in their mind that they can make Bixby happen, the camera was good but not mind-blowing. The display was really nice, though, and I guess using it to charge other people's phones is a neat gimmick.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Fortuna on February 26, 2019, 04:58:22 AM
Faster phone.

tbh I'm not even confident about that

(https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/acresults.jpg)
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 26, 2019, 08:21:37 AM
So is my phones camera.  I took a night sky picture and got stars in it.  As well as a few other that looked gorgeous.  What makes the google pixel so great?

What phone do you have? I've not seen a single phone camera that works wizardry like Night Sight does (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/14/18092660/google-night-sight-review-pixel-2-3-camera-photos-image-quality).



Huawei Mate 20 pro.  Which basically stole the camera and reverse charger from google and samsung respectively.


https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review (https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review)
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on February 27, 2019, 02:24:41 AM
Faster phone.

tbh I'm not even confident about that

(https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/acresults.jpg)

Is that the processor's performance, or real-life performance on the S10? Because I specifically mentioned Samsung's bloat.

So is my phones camera.  I took a night sky picture and got stars in it.  As well as a few other that looked gorgeous.  What makes the google pixel so great?

What phone do you have? I've not seen a single phone camera that works wizardry like Night Sight does (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/14/18092660/google-night-sight-review-pixel-2-3-camera-photos-image-quality).



Huawei Mate 20 pro.  Which basically stole the camera and reverse charger from google and samsung respectively.


https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review (https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review)

I may be blind, but I didn't see anything there about the phone's low-light performance being anything near the Pixel's Night Sight.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 27, 2019, 06:51:09 AM
Faster phone.

tbh I'm not even confident about that

(https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/acresults.jpg)

Is that the processor's performance, or real-life performance on the S10? Because I specifically mentioned Samsung's bloat.

So is my phones camera.  I took a night sky picture and got stars in it.  As well as a few other that looked gorgeous.  What makes the google pixel so great?

What phone do you have? I've not seen a single phone camera that works wizardry like Night Sight does (https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/14/18092660/google-night-sight-review-pixel-2-3-camera-photos-image-quality).



Huawei Mate 20 pro.  Which basically stole the camera and reverse charger from google and samsung respectively.


https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review (https://www.techradar.com/reviews/huawei-mate-20-pro-review)

I may be blind, but I didn't see anything there about the phone's low-light performance being anything near the Pixel's Night Sight.


Because that didn't have a comparison.


https://www.technobuffalo.com/2018/11/22/pixel-3-xl-vs-huawei-mate-20-pro-camera-comparison/ (https://www.technobuffalo.com/2018/11/22/pixel-3-xl-vs-huawei-mate-20-pro-camera-comparison/)

Its not AS good but closer than most, apparently.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Snupes on February 27, 2019, 11:42:45 AM
Okay, because I responded to

So is my phones camera.

and I assumed your response was a response to my doubt, which the article did nothing to shed light on.
Title: Re: junker gets a new phone 2018 edition
Post by: Lord Dave on February 27, 2019, 08:44:13 PM
Okay, because I responded to

So is my phones camera.

and I assumed your response was a response to my doubt, which the article did nothing to shed light on.


In resonse to it being magic?
I mean, I think it is.  And the comparison shots are good nightshots.  The brightness needs a bit of tweaking, but you can do that with the camera app.


Ex:
(https://i.imgur.com/dtMGMwK_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)