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Flat Earth Community / Re: Is it irrational to believe Flat Earth?

« on: October 11, 2018, 02:30:35 AM »

http://truthsetfreetv.com/declassified-document-reveals-that-russia-support-belief-in-a-firmament-and-a-flat-earth/

Recently these CIA documents were declassified and discuss Russians and the "firmament and flat earth".

Soon all will see. Get right with it folks !

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 11, 2018, 01:35:28 AM »

Don't believe that the GPS system is ground based.  While at sea you could be 1000 miles from the nearest land.  The GPS antennas are directional and we always point the antennas straight up when mounting them on the ship.  When doing this we are able to receive the signals from 3 or 4 of the many GPS satellites that are in orbit above the earth.  If the earth were flat, we could always see the same satellites on our whole trip, but this isn't the case.  Satellites come up over the horizon, provide us with our position data, and then go down into the horizon while another satellite takes it's place.  There is a whole satellite constellation out there for us.  If it were not the case, we would then have to resort to the old technology of the sextant, which we still carry aboard ship.  Even while using the sextant you have to believe in the spherical earth, or that system wouldn't work either.  All this comes from my every day work experience, not something that I read in a book, or saw on the internet.  If someone believes this is a hoax, please tell me.  I still have many friends at sea trying to make a living for themselves and their families.  They might need to know what the true facts are so to protect them from any potential danger.  I'm just a retired Merchant Marine officer and I sit at home now collecting a pension.

The dome is like molten glass. If one where to aim and bounce data off it from a specific location it bounces back to land or sea to a specific spot based on years of diagnostics of the angle of dangle. Happy engineering....

Satellite broadcasting involves receivers over a large accurately defined area which would not work with a bounce.

We don't need or use these fake sats. Lets go over some info shall we? Stay tuned in here Marine Merchant since you've been at sea so long but have yet to mention "Loran" system that I know of in your 4 days here. Radio signals like Data bytes travel at the speed of light or better. 186,000 miles per SECOND. Did you get that? This will help you understand why operation "Fishbowl" was used. Understanding the dome because it is "Skywave", the ability for "Loran" to bounce data off the sky or dome and travel distances that are disclosed of at least 1,500 miles. With the tech today, I believe it's easily possible to bounce thousands and thousands of miles from ("master") stations in nanoseconds off repeater stations(slaves as Loran calls them) fixed or at sea. Line of sight on the Loran system is 400 to 700 miles..SAY WHAT? Yep..NO Curve Bozo's just read the facts. Today the Loran system has been upgraded numerous times and is what we all use. Towers baby...thats your sats unless you bounce off Gods molten glass dome. Deal with it ! You been fooled !

http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/radar-and-loran-july-1959-popular-electronics.htm

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Is it irrational to believe Flat Earth?

« on: October 11, 2018, 12:33:04 AM »

Most people who have a regular land based job don't have any reason to even think about whether the earth is flat or round.  In my case the subject is vital to the jobs I've had in my 50 year career.  Now I'm a retired Merchant Marine officer and I sailed world wide.  I've been around the world a couple of times, in each direction.  Earlier I was considering being a airline pilot and did earn a commercial pilots license, but the shipping companies paid a whole lot more so I went to sea.  That doesn't mean that I didn't fly much.  I had my own electronics business for 23 years and flew my own airplane often on business.  The first five years of my career I worked for the local TV station as a transmitter engineer.  Having said all of the above I've learned some stuff that only makes sense if you think about it and if the earth is a globe.  My local TV station has a 1000 foot tower not far from where I'm currently living.  I used to work there 50 years ago.  The TV station spent a whole lot of money putting up that big tower because they knew that the higher they went the more watchers they could get and the more that they could charge for advertising.  A global earth model would mean that their nominal coverage are would be approximately 40 miles.  In a flat earth model that coverage would have been a whole lot more.  When I was flying my own private plane I would often cruise at about 7 to 9 thousand feet.  In those days (before GPS) I used the VHF VOR system for navigation.  Typically a VOR station could be used at about 100 miles at the altitudes I used.  This was due to the curvature of the earth.  A flat earth would have afforded me the luxury of tuning in a station near my destination, rather than flying from station to station.  When I went to sea I worked on large ships.  Usually the length was from 750 to 1000 feet.  Our height of eye was about 130 feet above sea level.  You could usually see the mast of another on coming large ship appear at about 15 miles away. We had the use of more than our eyes and a telescope.  The last ship had 3 separate radars.  Our 10cm radar would usually see the ship come over the horizon before we could see it with our eyes.  It would appear as a very weak target and grow in size and strength as we approached the other vessel.  You had to be a bit closer to see a smaller fishing boat.  That same radar could see Mt Fuji in Japan at a much larger distance because it was a lot higher.  Even mount Fuji would appear to sink into the sea as we departed Japan.  You would loose site of the port city way before you would loose side of the mountain, even though the mountain was farther away.  These types of personal experiences could not be reconciled with a flat earth theory.  Don't get me wrong, a flat earth would be a whole lot easier for everyone in a lot of ways, but unfortunately, my personal observations didn't match that theory.  I was never afraid of falling off the edge of the earth.  Maybe because as a kid, we lived overseas and traveled the world during vacations.  My sister picked up the same tendencies and was in Antarctica a couple of months ago and actually returned home without any difficulty.     

This video will contradict everything you've been saying as a 50 year player on da ocean.  I believe in Flat earth, I am land based and my IQ is above 130, I've owned my business for over 40 years, not having someone else sign my paycheck or rely on some bozo to tell me what to do. Bozo in bozo out.

Line of sight. 45 nautical miles weapons systems.....

You're washed up on the beach. The Earth is Flat and you've been brainwashed.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 09, 2018, 06:25:49 AM »

The article points out the problem with a global satellite system.  Commonly used INMARSAT satellites are over the equator.  We used them daily, along with another companies 'birds' to communicate.  The biggest problem with those is that they only work to about 70 degrees North or South latitude.  This is due to the curvature of the global earth.  A flat earth with a dome above it would be a good idea and would be easier for every seaman to communicate, even near the poles.  Alas, this is not what a seaman actually experiences with his own two eyes.  All our charts are based on a global earth.  We navigate, daily, with these charts.  What we see outside our windows matches what is seen on the charts.  If it were not so, we would run aground, loose cargo, and get fired from our job.  How could we not believe in a global earth?

Please understand you were using one of these downed sats and after you data mined it for so long it abruptly quit. Computers can do that, you think you are tLKING TO THE  sat and it goes sleepy time because you have been dialed in too long. Time to find a new sat.  Fakery has an easy explanation.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 08, 2018, 03:48:49 AM »

SpaceX looks so fake it must be real eh?  Did you see the last one where no camera footage of the landing on ocean platform? Or deployment of sat? Ya we can put men on moon and talk about a colony on Mars but photos are tough he he.

I like that picture, tipping over heading right for the drink !

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 08, 2018, 02:58:40 AM »

Don't believe that the GPS system is ground based.  While at sea you could be 1000 miles from the nearest land.  The GPS antennas are directional and we always point the antennas straight up when mounting them on the ship.  When doing this we are able to receive the signals from 3 or 4 of the many GPS satellites that are in orbit above the earth.  If the earth were flat, we could always see the same satellites on our whole trip, but this isn't the case.  Satellites come up over the horizon, provide us with our position data, and then go down into the horizon while another satellite takes it's place.  There is a whole satellite constellation out there for us.  If it were not the case, we would then have to resort to the old technology of the sextant, which we still carry aboard ship.  Even while using the sextant you have to believe in the spherical earth, or that system wouldn't work either.  All this comes from my every day work experience, not something that I read in a book, or saw on the internet.  If someone believes this is a hoax, please tell me.  I still have many friends at sea trying to make a living for themselves and their families.  They might need to know what the true facts are so to protect them from any potential danger.  I'm just a retired Merchant Marine officer and I sit at home now collecting a pension.

The dome is like molten glass. If one where to aim and bounce data off it from a specific location it bounces back to land or sea to a specific spot based on years of diagnostics of the angle of dangle. Happy engineering....

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 08, 2018, 02:54:19 AM »

Here's three vids of crashed satellites. With a trillion $ budget, you can launch one everyday forever and not put a dent in the budget. People will believe almost anything. Sats are fake. Nothing falls continually or stays stationary in the sky.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 08, 2018, 12:02:32 AM »

J-Man, you really need to stop reading the Bible like a science book, it contains much deeper, more important truths than that.

Where is your evidence for these thousands of balloons that just happen to behave exactly like satellites. How are TV satellites being faked by balloons in such a way that you have to precisely align your dish at them?

Mr. World you too can have eternal life and travel through God's heavenly very narrow gates. Understand that its not works that allows you passage but FAITH. Belief in the truth that God the Father sacrificed his only son Jesus on the cross for all our sins. The only way to the Father is through his Son Jesus. Pretty easy and once that is complete he sends himself down as the Holy Spirit to teach us, protect us and answer all these questions most have about everything. He explains it all. You see I got the creator in my pocket so to speak, he is with me always, when I explain to you something, it is truth from the creator. The Bible isn't a science book, it's the word of God.

Maybe you will have an awakening like I believe Mr. Sat man is having, more like OMG there is a GOD and we're trapped here. Smoke a Jay,,,,,,,, Money means zip only Faith !

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 07, 2018, 02:24:06 PM »

I have first hand evidence it's all fakery.....0ver 2000 years worth!

Either first-hand is misused or you are over 2000 years old.
I am assuming it's information from a book, which has been translated, re-written and had chapters removed. I'm unsure how many hand that is.

 1 Corinthians 2:12-14   

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: October 07, 2018, 02:02:52 PM »

I believe that satellites are real.  This evidence comes not from what a see or read for others, but what I have seen myself.  Before I retired, I worked on ships.  Each day I would monitor many different satellites and use them for communications and navigation.  Each year I would be at sea about 6 months.  That's 180 days of depending on satellites for our safety and for making a living.  I could see the actual position of the satellites using instruments to measure both azimuth and elevation above the horizon.  The ONLY way any of my day to day measurements made any sense is if there were satellites above a spherical earth.  I could also give plenty of evidence regarding our radars that could only work in the observed ways if the earth were a sphere.  Again this evidence is first hand in nature and is unbiased by anything that I've read on the internet.  Of course I may also be a very ignorant engineer.

Your ship stayed afloat because it is buoyant. A satellite is continuously falling back to earth we are made to believe. I don't believe but obviously you do. We are asked to believe a sled ride down hill where the frozen snow path never ends. Or a bike coast down hill, no peddling where the road never ends. If it weren't for our 1st hand knowledge that roads aren't this long or snow paths don't go down hill forever I might be tricked. Better yet you sled down hill and magically stop, no hands ma or brakes and never move from this position on the ice. Awesome trick there Mr. magician.

No there are 1000's of balloons aloft at any moment and digital signals bouncing off the dome back to specific spots on flat earth. You can pick up these points in the sky and call them falling fake sats if you like.

I have first hand evidence it's all fakery.....0ver 2000 years worth!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2018, 03:14:28 AM »

Lemme give you bitchez something to shoot your wad for. 40 years+ of marriage and 4 loads a day. Trump is a pussy grabber, ain't got what it takes to be king !

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Help Me debunk this stupid video

« on: October 02, 2018, 05:59:33 PM »

No gang, trillions....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2017/12/08/has-our-government-spent-21-trillion-of-our-money-without-telling-us/#187d8c7b7aef

Let me explain some basic accounting. Magic... While the DOD is not NASA, one can easily see why what NASA does and works for can be justified as National Security and thus fall under Dept of Defense, You know, the ISS and Russians in it. Write the check to everyone to fund it from the DOD. NASA looks for Aliens, those are National Security and our defense must be up to some par. Write the check. One can dream up any commingle of funds between dept's. A hooker, scotch and toothbrush in Moscow could be National Security and fall under the missing $21 Trillion. Don't be ignorant, NASA spends trillions protecting you and making subcontractors rich and their private majority shareholders It's how the rich got richer. Dream it up.

BTW did you send in your tax deposit...they want all your money ! Slave, ignorant slaves is all we are.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: NASA Spacewalk FOIA Request - Delivery & Review

« on: October 02, 2018, 03:48:44 AM »

I'm glad Jeranism came to his senses and said *uck em. Not playing in their sandbox anymore, worthless arseholes.

You've done a great service for the FE community and God is proud of you.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Help Me debunk this stupid video

« on: October 02, 2018, 03:40:51 AM »

The guy does a decent job but you can only tell he is stressed to the max trying to keep his head square to his shoulders throughout the video. Veins are popping out of his neck as he corrects the natural tendency to tilt your head up from the flat earth.

With trillions in funny money, NASA can create anything and all, well not all but most will believe the garbage.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 02, 2018, 03:22:50 AM »

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/01/653203765/u-s-and-canada-reach-deal-to-replace-nafta


Well...

When you or anyone else figures out what this deal will mean to the average American Household making $58,000 a year, you let us know. But I can assure you it means more expenses, not a lot, just enough to continue to place more weight from the boot covering our heads.

Fact check: Never been an honest politician. Like Eve and Adam, the temptation is too strong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: September 28, 2018, 02:26:25 AM »

I can't believe you peeps are actually arguing about deep state members like some are on this side and others are on that side. Do you even read the news? Forbes wrote an article about "Has Our Government Spent $21 Trillion Of Our Money Without Telling Us?" You can't get your head around $1 trillion let alone the $21 Trillion stolen by the elite over the last decade, not to mention the $20 trillion in budget deficient. Now add in "Black Budget" funding and the oh lets just run the press on after burner and give us all a raise. There is NO accountability, the dollar is a joke, not worth anything because we don't work, we're all on the "Dole", sucking on the printing press tit. You been had sooo bad you don't even realize it.

Now that's funny........

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlikoff/2017/12/08/has-our-government-spent-21-trillion-of-our-money-without-telling-us/#5e9252957aef

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: September 28, 2018, 01:36:34 AM »

To prove a Hoax you must show the intent to deceive.

Where has this been shown?

While not proven yet in court thru securities fraud allegations this goes directly to substantiation of Hoaxing.

How can something as yet unproven be taken to substantiate anything? Surely it must be proven first?

You hoax one thing you tend to be a hoaxer thru and thru.

Says who, apart from you?

Lets now look at Mr. Satellite man with a supposed looks so fake it must be real car in the universe. He's in very hot water with SEC and I highly doubt he will ever be managing SpaceX going forward. Can't let the pot smoker release the flat earth info seeing as he has security clearances.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-27/elon-musk-sued-sec-tesla-stock-tumbles-here-full-complaint

Here's a good article on Hoaxers which is what this thread is about, the whole Hoax games by none other than the "Evil" one and his demons.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-excess/201705/the-psychology-hoaxing

"A hoax is a deliberately fabricated falsehood made to masquerade as truth."

After you read the article, you, like most, will walk away with yes, these hoaxers continue to hoax.

Sats are fake, the earth is flat as a pancake, most are accepting the ultimate HOAX by the Devil himself.....

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: September 07, 2018, 09:08:25 PM »

Space X will be launching more satellites this weekend...he he right after Joe Rogan allows Musk to puff more mary jane on U tube and he get accused of Acid taking. Gotta love the whole going private hoax too, is that like Mars and landing on a barge farce? How's StaRMan doing he he...

Seems to me this guy was given the keys to the secret of the dome enclosed flat earth and has gone a little wacked over it.

Anyone who believes in these silly wonder wild stories of interplanetary travel needs to go on Joe's show too.

Musk will most likely come out soon about reality, then die from a nailgun or fall out a 13 story building.

Please keep the ranting in AR. Criticizing SpaceX is fine as long as you contribute to the topic.

I believe this is well within the topic I started: Satellite Hoax...SpaceX launching...To prove a Hoax you must show the intent to deceive. While not proven yet in court thru securities fraud allegations this goes directly to substantiation of Hoaxing. You hoax one thing you tend to be a hoaxer thru and thru. Not anywhere near an AR. Just facts of a hoaxer.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: September 07, 2018, 06:35:59 PM »

Space X will be launching more satellites this weekend...he he right after Joe Rogan allows Musk to puff more mary jane on U tube and he get accused of Acid taking. Gotta love the whole going private hoax too, is that like Mars and landing on a barge farce? How's StaRMan doing he he...

Seems to me this guy was given the keys to the secret of the dome enclosed flat earth and has gone a little wacked over it.

Anyone who believes in these silly wonder wild stories of interplanetary travel needs to go on Joe's show too.

Musk will most likely come out soon about reality, then die from a nailgun or fall out a 13 story building.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Flood and Where it Came from

« on: August 13, 2018, 11:17:49 PM »

Sorry to disappoint you but the Bible is clear, the flood waters came from the windows of Heaven. The dome isn't and cannot be cracked.