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Flat Earth Community / Pole to Pole Trip Cancelled
« on: January 24, 2019, 11:35:08 PM »
There is an eleven thousand dollar flight which supposedly goes around the world from Pole to Pole. A YouTube user named greatersapien set up a Kickstarter and collected 20 thousand dollars from the public to "prove flat earth wrong".

He collects the 20k, buys the ticket from the company, his camera equipment, and guess what happened? The company stopped responding to him and disappeared with the money.

Flat Earth Investigations / The Zig-Zaging Sun
« on: December 29, 2018, 03:41:54 AM »
According to RET the Midnight Sun of the Arctic occurs because for a portion of the year the earth is tilted on it's axis, with the Arctic towards the sun, as the earth rotates:

This should produce a smoothly rotating sun around the Arctic that never sets.

In contradiction to this expected smoothness, we find videos of the sun from the Arctics which apparently zig-zaggs in the sky:


Under the Flat Earth Theory my interpretation of this is because the sun is close to the earth and much more subject to perspective and perspective lines, which are straight, and which is why the sun seems to be going on straight paths as it approaches and recedes, with abrupt changes of direction.

However, the Round Earth Theory proposes a sun that is very far away and is not subject to this sort of perspective.

How does RET explain this geometry of the sun's movement?

I have heard on numerous occasions that the main problem with the division of the Flat Earth groups is because of the topic of the Universal Accelerator. Flat Earthers have declared that, although they believe that the earth is flat, they think that the Flat Earth Society's idea of an upwardly accelerating earth to be farcical and ridiculous. I hold that this belief has spread simply because the facts have not been properly communicated. I have been working on a solution for this. Please read the following article:

Evidence for the Universal Accelerator

The Universal Accelerator is, in fact, a strong piece of evidence for the Flat Earth movement. It can be shown that it is actually farcical to try and use or argue for any other form of gravity.

I would appreciate any reviews, comments, or corrections on this article. If we find that this article is sufficient I will take it to the other websites for review.

Flat Earth Media / Robert Sungenis presentation on Geocentrism
« on: November 19, 2018, 09:17:49 PM »
I recently came across an interesting presentation on geocentricism by Robert Segunis, which expresses his views. While Segunis believes that the earth is round, he believes that the earth is motionless, and takes us through some of the evidence for a motionless earth. Segunis talks about the motionless earth experiments, providing the words of various surprised physicists who refuse to believe that the earth is motionless, and looks at various cosmological data.

The presentation is about two hours long, feel free to jump around. I've started it at the part with Einstein:

This is not Segunis' own personal information that he is presenting. He is merely presenting the words of scientists to us.

Flat Earth Media / Flat Earth - No Boat Went Over The Horizon
« on: November 11, 2018, 08:22:43 PM »
Ranty Flat Earth gives us a step-by-step breakdown of the Sinking Ship Effect. Assessment of the alleged sinking ship videos shows that the effect being the result of the Inferior Mirage is the logical conclusion in many of these videos.

Runtime: 8 Minutes

Flat Earth Community / Post Your Favorite NASA ISS Fails
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:03:31 PM »
A Group Project: Create a catalogue of NASA's ISS slip-ups and flubs. We will go through and make a Wiki page out of the best of them. Please point out a specific event rather than linking a 2 hour video. A title and description of the event for porting to the Wiki would be appreciated.

I will start:

Astronaut Accidentally Admits That They Are Filming on US Soil

In a live interview from "space" Chris Cassidy accidentally admits that the astronauts are filming from the USA. Watch the following video at the 28 second mark for about 1 minute for context and decide for yourself what Cassidy is talking about.

Cassidy says: "...and all of that happened in a little town called York, Maine, which is across the United States from where we are talking to you right now."


From a report:

A stunning report published in the Annals of Internal Medicine concludes that researchers often ask statisticians to make "inappropriate requests." And by "inappropriate," the authors aren't referring to accidental requests for incorrect statistical analyses; instead, they're referring to requests for unscrupulous data manipulation or even fraud. The authors surveyed 522 consulting biostatisticians and received sufficient responses from 390. Then, they constructed a table that ranks requests by level of inappropriateness. For instance, at the very top is "falsify the statistical significance to support a desired result," which is outright fraud. At the bottom is "do not show plot because it did not show as strong an effect as you had hoped," which is only slightly naughty.

I cannot say that I am surprised in the least. Further, these requests for fraud aren't coming from some businessman. According to the article it is scientists who are making these requests.

Edit: Please move this to the science board.

Suggestions & Concerns / Preserving Wiki Article Links & Videos
« on: October 29, 2018, 06:19:07 PM »
Pete had recently installed a video upload tool for preserving videos on the Wiki, which seems great. I am planning on making archives of the most frequently used videos.

I would like to discuss the best way to preserve article quotes. For example, one page that I have in progress on my personal 'Works In Progress' section on my Wiki user page is Astronomical Prediction Based on Patterns. I am collecting quotes and pieces of evidence at the moment, and am planning to add more summary detail to the article once I feel that the evidence is sufficient. My original idea was to request a .pdf attachment option for the Wiki, to preserve the context of the quotes so that the page doesn't end up as a collection of missing 404s. However, I did a test run of saving all web page links as pdf and saw this:

I noticed the following:

- All of these PDFs make the total file size for archiving the sources over 71 MB. Do we really want each article to be over 71 MB?

- Some of these PDFs are entire books, which I saved with Google Book's Download as PDF option. The Gravitation Vs. Relativity will be useful for making quotes on other subjects and should be in a central library location, but the Story of the Heavens book is only useful to me at this time for this one quote.

What would be the best way to handle this? Rely on and website robots.txt to preserve content?

Maybe I should just upload the smaller PDFs to the Wiki, and add the larger PDFs that are books to the library, regardless of whether we are only using them for one quote? Make a small PDF of just the chapter?

Flat Earth Theory / 1961 Full Edition of Encyclopedia Britanica
« on: October 26, 2018, 11:31:27 PM »
That is a nice find. I am curious to see what the entry for the Michelson-Morley Experiment says. The internet is rife with the myth that "the experiment only disproved aether, nothing else" with denialism of any further meaning. It would be interesting to see what pre-internet literature says about this experiment.

I have recently added an article to our Wiki which gives various quotes and pieces of evidence that reflects the true story:

Edit: A second request -- The Sagnac Experiment and Airy's Failure -- these are related light velocity experiments.

Flat Earth Media / Heliocentric Speed Change Problem
« on: October 19, 2018, 10:05:25 PM »
An interesting video about how we should be able to feel the speed changes asserted by the heliocentric model.

Flat Earth Media / NAVY Missile Instructor Describes Flat Earth
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:46:06 PM »
A NAVY Missile Instructor describes that weapons systems observe bodies beyond the horizon. He describes that in such weapons systems no adjustments for curvature are taken into account, and that no adjustments for the Coriolis Effect is made. A planar model is assumed. Further, he describes that popular theory maps used on the open ocean are completely wrong.

Flat Earth Media / PhD Confirms Flat Earth
« on: September 16, 2018, 04:52:34 AM »
We have seen what is shown in this video many times, and don't need any authoratative approval. However, for those who do, a PhD performed water convexity experiments, sees zero curvature, discusses refraction, and comes to the conclusion that reality best supports the Flat Earth.

Suggestions & Concerns / Padding and font size for quotes in the Wiki
« on: September 03, 2018, 08:42:57 PM »
The quotes in the Wiki don't look good on mobile. Take a look at one of the pages with quotes.

 I have two requests:

1. Make the padding smaller. The padding for mobile seems way too large.

2. Make the font as large as the regular font. I have articles planned which will mostly be quoting other sources. The equal font will give equal meaning.

Flat Earth Community / The Danger of Belief
« on: September 03, 2018, 04:08:46 PM »
There was a brilliantly crafted segment from the from the TV Show Friends which creates some philosophical reflections on what it means to be a skeptic and a believer, which I believe pertains directly to this subject matter. Runtime: 4m45s

Who won the argument? Was it the skeptic, or was it the believer? More importantly -- who was the skeptic and who was the believer?

Flat Earth Theory / Long Pipe Perspective Experiment
« on: September 02, 2018, 03:52:06 AM »
This is related to the recent thread about Finite Perspective that was closed in the Media Forum. I posted a couple of videos which explain, more or less, how the perspective explanations work in FET. Watch the videos if you are not familiar with the perspective explanations.

I came across a video where a man looks down a long pipe and sees some odd things as he moves his camera around. Runtime: 15 Minutes

At first I thought that he was just moving his camera below the edge of the pipe, and it was being cut off because the edge of the pipe in the foreground was intersecting the exit hole of the pipe on the far end.

However, this does not seem to be the case. We can see that it is not the edge of the pipe cutting through the exit hole. We can still see the pipe leading up to the exit.


A recent Globebusters episode had some discussion of the Universal Accelerator as held by the Flat Earth Society. They look at a PBS video which states that it was Albert Einstein who came up with the idea of an upwardly accelerating earth. We have made mention of this in the past, but here is a video. Watch the following video at the 3h4m16s mark for 15 minutes. Here is the video at that timestamp:

The video states that Einstein argued that the only way Newton's gravity makes sense is if the earth were flat and accelerating upwards. There are too many coincidences with Newton's gravity, Einstein says. Einstein ended up adapting his upwardly accelerating earth theory to the Round Earth model by making space bend, another way to make the earth accelerate, giving us General Relativity as we know it today.

Flat Earth Media / Finite Perspective and the Horizon Explained
« on: August 28, 2018, 11:11:02 PM »
I recently came across a video by StinkyCASH which, more or less, describes perspective and its finite nature.

Perspective is an oft-used reasoning FE'ers give when explaining why the sun sets or, sometimes, the sinking ship effect.

Runtime: 15 minutes.

The other branch of thought with does not use the perspective explanation is the Electromagnetic Accelerator theory.

Flat Earth Theory / Reasoning behind the Universal Accelerator
« on: August 28, 2018, 02:45:41 AM »
On reading through the FAQ and the Universal Accelerator pages I have come to realize that we are seemingly haphazardly proposing that the earth is accelerating upwards without really explaining why. We should provide background to this deduction process.

In my view, the earth is accelerating upwards simply because that is what we observe it to be doing.

Consider the following:

Experiment 1: Step up onto a chair and step off of its edge while watching the surface of the earth carefully. If you pay attention closely, you will observe that the earth accelerates upwards to meet your feet.

Experiment 2: Now find a ball and raise it into the air with your hand and let it go into free-fall. As it does this this you should simultaneously feel the earth pressing upwards against your feet. This tells us that we are being pushed to be in the frame of reference of the earth, as the earth runs into the ball.

While the "graviton puller particles" and "bendy space" versions of gravity in Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity provide equivalent explanations to the results of the above experiments, those things are are completely undiscovered, and so, are decidedly less empirical. We can see that the earth moves upwards, while we have to imagine that there are hypothetical undiscovered puller particles or odd properties to space.

We can imagine many explanations for the phenomenon of gravity, but they will be completely hypothetical and frivolous. None are as strong as something we can directly observe and experience.

Per the question of where the energy for comes from; since it is beneath the earth and inaccessible that is a question easily left as unknown. While we can directly see and experience the mechanical action of the earth's upward movement, we are ignorant of the energy source below. The phenomenon of "gravity" is as equally deficient in its explanation for where all of the energy comes from for matter to pull matter, and that usually gets glossed over.

Furthermore, and as another point, in order for "gravity" to exist, entirely new and untestable physics must be created for that construct. The phenomenon of pushing is well established and long known to science. After all, the phenomenon of push can occur with existing physics, whereas pulling particles or bendy space requires new physics. This favors the concept of upwards acceleration.

It appears that many people of the wider FE community are complaining that YouTube is demoting Flat Earth videos. YouTube admitted that they were planning on demoting such videos, and a spokeswoman specifically calls out Flat Earth as something to censor in this video.

On the most recent Flat Earth Podcast there was discussion about halting the "Research Flat Earth" slogan, since when you search for Flat Earth you get the Flat Earth Society, which they characterize as "full of trolls," and YouTube, which now promotes anti-FE videos. The prospects for the growth of the movement is dismal if Flat Earth is being censored.

This is important. Flat Earth was given its fair assesment in 2015, the first time in hundreds of years, and it exploded into a movement of flat earthers that is still growing. Flat earthers grew to thousands, and the subject is reaching millions of people, because no one had ever seen the evidence from that side before 2015. In 2018, it has now grown and become such a big thing that even mainstream media and the government are attempting to to stop it with censorship, ridicule and education.

Since we rank highly for Flat Earth, I believe that it is increasingly becoming our obligation to come up with some kind of scheme that promotes videos and contents of the wider Flat Earth community. We have discussed a sort of video content site in the past; which still seems like a good idea. Another idea is a Digg-like rating system, where users may submit content that gets upvoted. The old Digg had one option: You have the option to either "Digg" it, or do nothing. This type of scheme would protect from the trolls.

The current admins do not have the time to work on such a venture, and my suggestion would be to create a subdomain and give access to myself and others who would like to work on it. There are plenty of tube and rating-system type content manager systems to base this on.

What is the best way to handle the censorship of YouTube?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Is God possible?
« on: August 26, 2018, 06:12:14 PM »
For a good while in my life I did not believe that the idea of a supernatural God was even possible. However, I have since come to the conclusion that God is possible.

This conclusion was sparked from the following: Is it possible for an alien civilization to be as technologically advanced as to seem to have the powers of a God?

My answer is yes. The television series Star Trek, for example, portrays a universe with civilizations in stages of various technological developments. There are civilizations who have not yet reached the stars, there are civilizations who explore the stars, and then there are civilizations so far advanced that they can appear to manipulate matter with a thought.

If you believe that the portrayal of the Star Trek universe is possible, and that we are on a range of technological prowess which will culminate with us having God-like abilities, then the conclusion must be that God is possible.

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