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I propose that a temporary rule in the upper foura be put in place announcing that we are trying to create a modern edition of Earth Not a Globe as a community and that all conversations should be focused around this idea. A similar announcement should be made on the main page. It's going to take a monumental amount of effort to create a modern edition of Earth Not a Globe

When questions are posted for us to answer about FET the discussion should be centered on sticking to an agreed upon format and contributing to the work. RE'ers can provide challenge questions as desired, but two rules would need to be followed:

Rule 1: Stay on topic - All threads should keep on topic. If a question is asked about sinking ships, and the poster asks about the Apollo missions, his question will be ignored and redirected to the rules page.

Rule 2: All conversations must contribute to writing a modern edition of Earth Not a Globe. That doesn't mean we should finish one chapter per thread, but it does mean that we should focus our conversations on providing comprehensive answers, referencing supporting evidence, creating professional sentence and paragraph structure, and finding holes in explanations.

While not part of this vote proposal, I gave a suggestion for how this book should be formatted here:

All diseases can be cured through natural means. Diabetes, Chrons, Arthritis, Lyme, Asthma, Ebola, Polio, and many more diseases which are thought to be "incurable" are easily cured by cleaning the body and providing the nutrients and vitamins it needs to combat the disease.

There is a website called, where people the world over get together and speak about what works for them. There are thousands of willing and desperate people who are willing to try anything, any supplements, any diet, any fast, any cleanse, to rid themselves of their ailments. I've heard of people with Diabetes curing themselves with a purely raw diet. There are stories of Chrons sufferers curing themselves with DIY fecal transplants. Arthritis is a symptom of toxicity, and is virtually eliminated once the body is detoxified with a substance like organic sulfer. Bilary colic and galbladder disease is cured via liver flushing. Asthma is really a fungus infection of the lungs, and can be cured with anti-fungals. A lot of these methods are ancient, but the power of the internet has brought people together to experiment and refine on a large scale.

There is a conspiracy in medicine. I've learned a lot over the last year I've been sick with my own disease affecting every organ in my body. I've come to the concision that doctors don't really know much. They went to medical school and were taught by the industry and pharmaceutical companies with a twisted view of medicine designed to maximize profits. See, a pharmaceutical company can't get behind a substance like Vitamin C, because it is unpatentable. No pharmaceutical company will invest tens of millions of dollars to put Vitamin C through the FDA approval process because it gets them nowhere. There is no protection for a substance anyone can make.

Pharmaceutical companies maximize profits by educating medical students under their allopathic version of medicine where profit trumps health. Antibiotics are handed out like candy. People are kept on Proton Pump Inhibitors for years. Cancer treatments literally poison the body. If you're old and in pain, doctors would rather treat you with pain killers and call it a cure, than to figure out the root cause of the condition. If you get worse with the poisons they're feeding you, all the better, it just means more profit for them when you crawl back begging for more.

The greatest minds of medicine are not at Stanford University, but at schools like Bastyr University, the top Naturopathic school in the country. Students are taught the truth about the human body, and the truth about disease. They are not fed lies like "having yellow stools for a long period of time is of no concern" like you would hear in a medical school. If you complain of light colored stools you will go untreated. But yellow stools are a bad thing and lead to other diseases. It means there is a bilary duct obstruction and must be treated by removing the liver stones with a Liver Flush and liver cleansing. There is no such thing as a liver flush, or cleaning of the organs, in allopathic medicine. If you ever develop gallbladder disease the recommendation is removal. If you develop liver disease you are put on a waiting list for a transplant, hoping that you get a liver before you die like many others have with that disease.

Arts & Entertainment / Robin Williams Suicide
« on: August 12, 2014, 03:30:24 AM »
Today is a sad day. Apparently Robin Williams had been undergoing depression and has committed suicide this morning via asphyxiation. It is unclear how or why. Perhaps Night at the Museum III pushed him off the edge. Maybe he killed himself because ABC axed his sitcom.

I will be surprised if a suicide note does not turn up.

In RET a Lunar Eclipse occurs when the moon, earth, and sun perfectly align to cast a shadow of the earth upon the moon. However, there exists what are known as Selenelions, where both the moon and sun have been seen above the horizon during a Lunar Eclipse. Observations of seeing both the sun and moon in the sky during a Lunar Eclipse has been recorded as far back as Tycho Brahe. This event should be impossible under the Round Earth model.


Take a look at this Selenelion, for example. The moon is in front of the camera, the sun is rising behind the camera, and the earth is below. Firstly, during a lunar eclipse the moon should be well below the horizon line when the sun is rising up from the horizon. This is an impossibility in the Round Earth model.

Secondly, in the video the shadow of the earth is obscuring the moon from the top down rather than the bottom up, contrary to what would be expected when the earth is passing between the moon and sun. The sun's light should be peeking over the earth's horizon and hitting the moon from the top down.

Are we to believe that "refraction" has not only placed the moon that far above the earth's surface, but has moved the shadow the wrong way to boot?

Please explain.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Google Self Driving Car
« on: May 28, 2014, 07:45:33 AM »
Google released a video of their self driving car:

A couple things I noticed:

1. Subliminal messaging: The people selected for this video are stereotypes who don't look like good drivers (women, the elderly) and Google makes them better drivers with the Google Car.

2. Production slip: How did the blind man at 2:37 see that he was passing those people to yell at them from the window?

Flat Earth Projects / Proposal to communicate via text
« on: May 04, 2014, 05:10:21 AM »
Okay, I'm back, and I can function again. I propose that we figure out some way to text each other, in order to chat to get to know each other, and in order apply peer pressure to get on things like forum participation and calling votes.


Flat Earth Community / Astronomers found a star colder than ice
« on: May 03, 2014, 09:28:22 PM »
Astronomers have found what is, according to the true and correct theories of Modern Astronomy, a star colder than ice!

How amazing that something like this can exist. Undoubtedly these methods of measuring the distance, composition, and temperature of stars based on slight color variations are well established, proven time and time again through direct sampling methods. Like the little-known time when the Victorian-era Royal Astronomical Society, who came up with most of the current methods, sent a space ship to a star. Remember that? It proved to the world that our present practice of Astronomy comes from something more than looking at stars and making guesses.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / The NBA should be shut down
« on: May 03, 2014, 05:14:15 AM »
Who is the NBA to condemn Donald Sterling for his opinions on people with certain physical characteristics, when the association is itself guilty of discriminating against people for their physical characteristics?

Why isn't the NBA recruiting 5 foot tall Chinese men to play on their teams? Where are all of the Korean women? They are selecting a certain race and gender because they are fast and tall.

The entire thing should be shuttered. The recent actions and announcements from the board that the NBA is an inclusive organization and vehemently against discrimination is a load of BS.

Flat Earth Projects / Tom Bishop out sick
« on: March 25, 2014, 05:01:15 AM »
Some may have noticed my recent absence. I'm not going to be posting too much for the next month.

Flat Earth Projects / First PR Project for the Society
« on: February 06, 2014, 08:32:08 AM »
From the other forums, a number of ideas were brought up.

1. Create a video animation
2. Write an annotated edition of Earth Not a Globe
3. Improve the Wiki
4. Organize a Group Reddit AMA
5. Reach out to the press
6. Perform an experiment

Were there any other good ideas?

I see different kinds of pros and cons to each. While I would like to do them all, perhaps we as a group should decide what is MOST important, and should be focused on FIRST. Otherwise, if we try to do everything, delay and failure is imminent. When we decide on a direction to go threads should be created in the higher forums to gauge ideas from the community and help get things going.

The press thing, well, I sort of feel we need more substance to give the press than some information that a new forum was created because of technical issues and and lack of leadership. Maybe if we had a video, new wiki diagrams, annotated ENAG, or something, we could have something to show them. Also, if a name change is imminent, alerting the news right now would not be a good idea.

However, if it is felt that alerting the press should be our first and foremost goal, these feelings can be put aside.

Science & Alternative Science / Bill Nye debates Ken Ham on Creationism
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:08:52 PM »
Article -
Video -

Did anyone catch this? Bill Nye debated the founder of the Creation Museum on Creationism.

Flat Earth Projects / Name Change
« on: February 01, 2014, 05:30:18 PM »
On the other board we were talking about a name change. What do we think about that?

Here was my contribution to the discussion:

Idea: The Flat Earth Academy of Sciences

A Think Tank dedicated to the advancement of earth science and the Zetetic Philosophy. As a sister organization to the Flat Earth Society the academy collects, organizes, and publishes scientific material pertaining to the movement.

Whereas the Flat Earth Society is a basic forum where newcomers go for basic discussion, the Flat Earth Academy of Sciences is where they go when they graduate. It is a place for higher level debate, and provides a venue for its members to publish research, organize projects, and speak with other Flat Earthers.

Flat Earth Community / PR Brainstorming
« on: January 21, 2014, 05:25:22 AM »
I recently read that Dogecoin is sending the Jamaican bobsled team to the Olympics, and it got me thinking. What we need to get this site off the ground is a publicity stunt.

We could issue a challenge, such as when LifeLock's CEO gave out his social security number and challenged people to steal his identity. Or it could be a contest, such as when a radio station held a "hold your wee for a Wii" water drinking contest.

Suggestions & Concerns / Can I have an email account/forwarder?
« on: January 16, 2014, 04:55:20 AM »
When sending out emails to the press I would like to send it under or Is this possible?

Flat Earth Projects / Should we take members?
« on: January 13, 2014, 04:59:30 AM »
Should we take members for the Flat Earth Society? Or everyone who has signed up to the forum already be a member?

If we should take members, what special things should we offer?

Flat Earth Projects / Should we vote on fine details or broad proposals?
« on: January 08, 2014, 04:02:40 PM »
Would we rather vote on the fine details of a subject, or a broad proposal drafted by members?

For example, when making standards for voting, we would either create individual polls for deciding conditions when a vote is passed, what should happen before a pole is created, contingencies for an absent voter, whether users should be allowed to change their vote, what happens when there are conflicts with previous polls, etc; or we could vote on "Thork's Voting Standards", which outlines a suggestion for all of this in a single written proposal.

Absent a formal voting procedure, voting will conclude when all 5 participants have voted.

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