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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bernie 2020
« on: March 06, 2019, 05:51:11 PM »
This pledge is good for Bernie.

Let’s assume the Earth is flat.

Now, let’s indulge in a thought experiment.

What if the Earth was round?
Do I understand this correctly? You want the Flat Earth Society members to describe to you Round Earth Theory?

Flat Earth Community / Re: Earth seem from 1 million miles.
« on: February 27, 2019, 11:05:46 PM »
NASA has done much better work.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yang 2020
« on: February 27, 2019, 10:40:07 PM »
Universal Basic Income is a fantastic idea. I don't think anyone can state for sure what will happen, but it has so much enormous potential. I can't wait for someone to give it a fair test so that we at least have a case study for considering it further.

Should the entirety of the United States jump into at once? No, we can probably just use that money towards something with a more certain return on investment, like infrastructure or national healthcare or schools or some shit.

So... I see a never expiring ban on people who break rule 8. yet, what is rule 8, so I don't break it...
8. Keep alternate accounts within reason

We will be taking a very relaxed policy towards alternate accounts ("alts"), provided that people do not force us to take a stricter stance by abusing this policy. Alts are allowed, and will be permitted free reign across all fora, provided that they follow the rules for the forum they are posting in. FES has a history of alts that contribute to discussions in addition to the usual complement of spamming and trolling alts, and it would be a shame to try to restrict this.

There are two exceptions to this policy: one, an alt that is used for the purpose of furthering a main or another alt's argument without itself contributing a unique point of view on the situation ("sockpuppetting") will be immediately banned; two, an alt that is intended to impersonate a member either here or on the old FES will be immediately banned, and deleted if it is occupying the username of an old FES member, as otherwise it would bar them from registering here.

An alt breaking any rule that would ordinarily result in a warning can (at moderator discretion) be handled by immediately banning the alt account, and instead warning the main account of the person controlling it.

It's harder to find the rules than it needs to be. May I suggest stickying them at the top of every upper-fora so that they're easier to find?

In other news, politicians used their power for their own gain, and its cold in Canada.  Who cares if someone hired a hooker?
To be fair, this was less hiring a hooker and more a $60 rub and tug by a likely victim of human trafficking.

I mean, the fact that a billionaire would cheap out so much on his handjobs is a good enough story on it's own.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: On the Origin of Species
« on: February 23, 2019, 03:49:22 PM »
My family do not fraternise with nig nogs. No great great ... add as many as you like ... grandmother of mine would ever fall for a bouncy porch monkey sucking air through his teeth.   >o<

My blood is the gold standard of Aryanism.
I bet you could make a black friend if you just put yourself out there.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 28, 2019, 11:34:29 PM »
Well, it appears I ran away from Rushy like the coward I am.

It's the only solution that stops foot traffic aside from something like a minefield or a trench. One of those things would cause an international crisis and the other is just plain silly. We could always take the Israeli route, since they found out shooting on sight does wonders for deterring border jumpers. You also need to think about the future. What happens if climate change really does cause Central America to collapse into chaos? We're going to need a lot more than just a wall, but saying the wall won't help at all is nonsense. It's a practical solution and has been throughout human history. Walls aren't 100% effective, but they're not 0% effective.
I'm sure we're both creative enough to think of a half-dozen solutions that are at least as practical as a giant wall. Like moats, or a team of patrols with satellite observers. Walls didn't do shit to stop the Mongols, and in an age of air travel, sea travel, and ladders, it won't stop any significant amount now. At a minimum, I think we can find common ground that the cost of the wall (Numbers vary, but at least in the billions for constructions and hundreds of millions annually to maintain) and a month of a federal government shutdown probably wasn't worth what we'd get out of it if we even built it. Which is looking unlikely.

We won't even touch the hypocrisy of a man who campaigned on Mexico building the wall now asking Americans to pay for it.

This is exactly the problem. You've become convinced it's a race issue because some subset of people might actually have that belief. That is pointless generalization and honestly I thought someone like you wouldn't seriously believe it applies widely to the entire problem. It's a childish oversimplification. It's the equivalent of me saying that anyone against the wall is simply a drug addict that is scared their supplies might get interrupted, which would probably describe a lot of the people against it. Maybe everyone against the wall really is trying to import voters, or maybe they're all people who are avid sex traffickers. Does that make these a valid argument? No, because I think the issue a lot more complicated than just one subset of people with irrational beliefs.
I'd find this argument more compelling if we ever talked about border security with Canada, where it's mostly white people. Terrorists and drugs come from up north as well, including famously the 9/11 hijackers. If trafficking was the real focus, we'd worry about both borders. If immigration is the issue, we'd not be talking about the wall because most undocumented immigrants don't come from foot traffic across the border. There are racists and xenophobes that get to vote same as everyone else, and I have a feeling they've gone overwhelmingly to one guy.

Not that this is the focus on why a wall is a bad idea. It's just such a bad idea that I'd argue the majority of people supporting it are either daft, or pretending to be daft because they don't like brown people.

I doubt you even live in the US.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: January 10, 2019, 01:09:23 AM »
Letterkenny (Hulu in US, Crave in Canada, don't know about lesser nations) is the best comedy out there.

If you haven't watched it yet, pitter patter let's get at 'er.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:21:10 AM »
Building a wall isn't a practical solution. It's a non-solution for a non-existent problem.

I'll not even touch the whole "colorblind" shtick you're trying for. If you want to pretend there's no racist or xenophobic elements embedded in this topic I have no desire to dig your head out of the ground.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 09, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
Hell, one guy would let his golf course be destroyed for the wall to be built.
There is no greater sacrifice than giving up the course for your prick sport to build a monument to useless ways to try and keep brown people away from you.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 08, 2019, 06:34:13 PM »
They're almost 2% of the way there. Trump won't even be in office by the time it gets funded.

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:38:50 PM »
ITT: Cyber-bullying and rationalizations.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republicans take the house and senate.
« on: November 08, 2018, 12:36:44 AM »
The Roy Moore ad that showed a white guy running over brown children. They didn't use the specific words but the message was overwhelmingly clear. White people are monsters that will run over your children in their cars.
Okay yes go find me this ad. I didn't say describe an ad to me.

If you understand the democratic platform could you please explain it to me?
Any particular part you need explained?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republicans take the house and senate.
« on: November 07, 2018, 08:13:15 PM »
I do find it a bit concerning the democrats ran solely on "F*ck Trump and F*ck white people" and still won the house.
Please find me this political ad, paid for by a Democratic candidate, that said "Fuck Trump and Fuck white people". Thanks.

I understood the Democrats platform, beyond "f*ck Trump and f*ck white people" to be "No borders, no wall, no U.S.A at all."
I'm not seeing that in here.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republicans take the house and senate.
« on: November 06, 2018, 01:52:00 AM »
Here's another, why did no congressmen actually change their political parties during the supposed party platform switch? Surely, everyone would have magically swapped sides?

How can you still believe "political parties magically swapped and that's why anything bad that the Democrats did wasn't actually us".

Was McCarthy actually a Democrat, then? Good, because you can have him.
So, if we're going to talk about political parties throughout history, it is important to contextualize for era. There's no sudden "platform switch" where the two parties meet in a smoky room and decide to swap stances. Hell, that's not really how political parties work. Think more "loose ideological alignment" and less "set of firm stances and policies". Generally, we break the history of US political parties into six different eras. See below:

Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat
« on: November 04, 2018, 03:38:00 AM »
IRC is mostly just used for shitposting
I feel personally attacked.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: October 31, 2018, 11:54:22 PM »
Madden on PC if anyone wants to get dominated.

The election has been decided. CNN decided it today.
That's not how elections work. Also which election was decided? There's multiple elections going on in the United States.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Fallout 76
« on: October 27, 2018, 11:30:20 PM »
As someone who actually likes Fallout, of course. I'll be on PC with a group of people if anyone ever wants to join.

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