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##### Flat Earth Theory / Re: Solar Light Composition
« on: April 26, 2019, 03:45:19 PM »
I hope you realize that the power from the sun isn't actually even.

Of course, radiation burst and solar flares make it radiation fluctuating, this is why we use average measurements.
Anyhow, care to explain how the flat earth sun generates so huge humongous amount of power in so small form factor?
The oblate spheroid planet scientists and engineers wait the answer with great interest, we could solve the world energy crisis.

It would be pathetic to state: "I have a portable flashlight, 10 cm long, weights 200 g, at dark night it can illuminate 10 square miles ahead as clear as Arizona's daylight, but I will not tell you how it does it, the technology involved, nor what kind of power supply it uses, and you must believe me, otherwise you should consider yourself ignorant".

"Science can help to take people from ignorance, but even so, sometimes is difficult to take the ignorance from people."

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of planets
« on: April 26, 2019, 01:55:32 PM »
The least thing about Jupiter satellites is having irregular movement.  Jupiter orbit is perfectly regular based on a heliocentric system. For the satellites, you can calculate, predict, extrapolate, etc, their orbits, by their distances, time, orbit shape, etc.   Anyway, missed the point of the question, size of the planets.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Solar Light Composition
« on: April 25, 2019, 10:29:10 PM »
The flat earth theory states the Earth's equator line is 40000 km in circumference, the diameter of the equator is then 12738 km, and as the equator is a center line between the North pole and the "ice wall" South pole, then the total diameter of the flat earth is 25477 km, making the ice wall of a circumference of 80038 km.  Clear?  Okay, the theory also states the Sun has the same diameter of the Moon, around 48 km (30 miles), and both are at the altitude of 4800 km (3000 miles).

Okay, based on what we can analyse and decompose the light received from the sun, we can even detect what temperature and what gases are being converted there, Hydrogen to Helium, we can simulate the fusion in computers, even calculate the amount of energy it needs to produce and based on its size, we can calculate how long it is doing that, and how long it probably will continue doing that.   But this is based on our normal universe we know, that follows the same laws of physics.

Now, based on flat earth theory, how the 30 miles across disc sun generates radiation? how long it is being doing it?  We can measure the sun light power that hits earth surface and measured around 1kW/m², that is a fact.  We can add all the energy from the sun that hits planet earth at a single time or second, that is huge and most of it is invisible infrared.  Even so, as the Sun radiates all around it, and Earth is very far away from it, we receive just a tinny bitty small part of the total radiation emitted by the Sun.

Lets calculate it using the flat earth theory numbers, and think that all the Sun's radiation is "coned" down to the flat earth.

Radius of flat earth: 25477 km.  Area of a disc is = Radius² x PI = 2,038,216,561 km², or 2 x 10^9 km².  Clear?
Each km² is a 1000 x 1000 m, so it is 1 million m², or 1 x 10^6 m².
Now, converting 2x10^9km² to m² = 2x10^9 x 1x10^6 = 2x10^15m².  Still clear? Math correct, right?
Now consider that your flat earth theory 33% of earth area actually "coned" illuminated by the sun at any given time, divide this big number by 3, ending up with 6x10^14m², now multiply it by 1kW or 1000 Joules, that the sun pours of energy on the illuminated area, 6x10^14m² x 1x10^3W = 6x10^17W, that is beautiful, simple calculations.
Now, do you know how much energy all our hydroelectric plants, nuclear, coal, oil, wind, etc, on the whole planet generates at any given time?
In 2013 everything together produced 5.67x10^20 Joules, that is during a whole year, that has 31536000 seconds, or 3.1x10^7, so divide the 5.67x10^20 by 3.1x10^7 = 1.82x10^13 Watts per second, or Joules.   So, the sun, your little disc of only 30 miles in diameter, 3000 miles up, can generate 4 levels of magnitude more energy that ALL our generation on Earth?

The question is HOW a 30 miles flat disc can generate 33 THOUSAND times more energy than ALL our energy production on the planet, and please, answer that with chemical/scientific explanations, so we could create an artificial Sun and solve all our energy problems.  See, according to this, an artificial SUN using the same flat earth magic energy generation, to fulfill ALL our energy needs could generate just double of what we are producing now, to do that, it could have an area 16500 times smaller than the 30 miles diameter flat earth sun.

Area = Radius² x PI.   A 30 miles (48km) diameter disc has an area of 1.8 x 10^9 m², dividing it by 16500 = 1.1 x 10^5 m² = radius of 186 meters only...  Come on, this is smaller than two city block, LETS DO IT RIGHT NOW !!!!    Flat earth theory found the solution for our energy needs.  Perhaps a small 8 inch disc made of the same flat earth sun material, can fuel an electric car forever, can you imagine? no more fossil fuel engines? and better, using the fantastic levitation techniques of the flat earth sun, we can make cars flying without any propulsion.  Fantastic.

But first, please explain how your flat earth sun works, in technical details.

See, I have a small scientific calculator TI-36X and can do wonders with it.   Some people have tremendous difficult to understand TAN-1 or e-based Logs function, it is not their fault, some animals have no competent cognitive capacity, that is their nature.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Size of planets
« on: April 25, 2019, 10:06:16 PM »
The flat earth theory states the Earth's equator line is 40000 km in circumference, the diameter of the equator is then 12738 km, and as the equator is a center line between the North pole and the "ice wall" South pole, then the total diameter of the flat earth is 25477 km, making the ice wall of a circumference of 80038 km.  Clear?  Okay, the theory also states the Sun has the same diameter of the Moon, around 48 km (30 miles), and both are at the altitude of 4800 km (3000 miles).  Now, what is the size and altitude of Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, Venus, Mercury?  What about the size of the Jupiter natural satellites, Europa, Ganymede, Io, Callisto?   Also, how can we actual visually see Jupiter's satellites move around Jupiter after few hours, it proves they are orbiting Jupiter.  If you never did it, just grab any average telescope, set with an ocular no less than 25mm and enjoy the view, make drawings of pictures about the moons and compare 2 hours later, or next night.  You can actually see the moons go behind Jupiter and then cross in front of it, proving the orbital plane.  How this "orbital" can happens and how big are those moons in the flat earth theory design?  On the several pictures collected animated GIF below, see the moons disappearing on the Jupiter shadow on the left side, fir Io then Europa, the closer ones.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Magnetic Poles
« on: April 25, 2019, 09:20:52 PM »
Can you please explain how flat earth model has a somehow tick disc of dirt and rocks, with strong magnetic poles, being the North in the center and the South all around such disk?   Even a magnet in form of a donut or torus can not present such property.  It is impossible, it will be an external monopole.  If you lean a little bit about magnetic lines fields of force, you will realize each magnetic line leaves one pole and travels in a circular form and arrives at the other pole, so all lines are equivalent.  Imagine lines of force leaving your flat earth south pole, all around the ice wall, billions of lines, and arriving to a single point in the North pole, the magnetic force there would be fantastic and impossible strong.   That is not the case, se can measure the magnetic force properties on the South pole and on the North magnetic pole and find them exactly the same.   Care to explain this both discrepancies when considering the flat earth model?  It would be a complete havoc, but it is not.    The third point is, I am really curious to read about your explanations about how the flat earth generates a movable magnetic force, if not as a huge ball of melting rocks and iron rotating inside your planet, generating magnanimous electric current and magnetic fields.  Remember, the magnetic poles move in time, this is only possible with the spherical model.  Please explain.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Moon view angle.
« on: April 25, 2019, 09:09:59 PM »
In the flat earth model, the Moon is not too distant only 4800 km up, suppose it is right on top, azimuth, midnight, full moon.  It shows some features, craters, mountains, etc. A person 80° East, shall also see the Moon at 80° to the West almost setting, it will be almost 5:20 at morning for him.  Another person at 80° West, will see the same Moon at 80° East, it recently raised, it will be around 6:40 afternoon for him.   As this two persons are seeing the Moon at the same time, but with 160° distant one to another, the different angle of view would allow them to see different features, mountains and craters of the Moon, considering the Moon is also spherical like the video below, Lunar libration, showing a composition of 28 days.  But no, they both see the exactly same image of the Moon, because it is much far away than the flat earth model, impossible to see the "sides" of the Moon.  In flath earth model, the Moon is 30 miles in diameter and 3000 miles distant, just 100 times its diameter. Considering the Equator line (even in the flat earth model) is 40 thousand km in circumference, those two persons 160° apart will have an arc of 17700 km and a cord of 12500 km between them, what makes a triangle to the Moon of a base of 12500 km and a vertical of 4800 km, each one would see a side of the Moon by 21°, and that is pure math and geometry.  It means, one would see 138° of the Moon face from the other, but not, they see the same face and far stars pretty close to the Moon direction in the same position for each other what proves the noon parallax error.  The Moon is not flat, see the image below or grab the nearest binocular or telescope and confirm. I have both at home, tired to see craters and mountains of the Moon in detail.  With little understanding of mid school geometry you can explain the whole spherical system. Care to explain the flat one?

This example is proportional and the same as two persons, one in each side of the 20m wide road, watching a car at 80m away, of course the person at the left side of the road will be able to see the left door, while the person at the right side will be able to see the right door, and not the other way around.  This doesn't happen in the above example of the Moon, the proportional distances are the same.

Also, as the flath earth equator diameter is 12700 km, if the two persons were 180° one to another, and if the Moon is straight up azimuth over the first, 4800km up, the triangle formed over the flat earth model will be 4800 up, 12700 ground and a hypotenuse of Sqr(4800²+12700²) = 13576km, what makes an angle of 20.7° for the other person, and we know we see the Moon disappear under the horizon, we can see it with bare eyes.  This alone explains the spherical model.  Care to explain why we don't see the Moon all the time in the sky, from 20° to 89° constantly?

And yes, we can see the Moon during the day, if the angle against the Sun allows to illuminate it.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Antarctica shows 24 hours of sunlight.
« on: April 25, 2019, 08:10:41 PM »
A person on Antarctica (any research stationed there) can see 24 hours of sunlight, circling around, during solstice.  Care to explain how it is possible in a flat earth model?  It is pretty simple on spherical planet model.  See below a 360° pictures in Antarctica.

The opposite happens on Arctic, from November 13 to January 29 there is no visible Sun, not even twilight, since it goes 12 degrees below the horizon, during this time the whole Arctic becomes dark for 11 weeks.  Care to explain about that in a flat earth model?

Both are quite simply to explain, including precise math calculation, even predictions, using the spherical planet model.

Below, Arctic 24 hours of sun all around in June, 360° pictures.

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