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Flat Earth Debate / Zeteticism
« on: July 14, 2017, 11:41:17 AM »
Good afternoon folks!

I don't know if this is the right forum for this post, but it's the one I usually hang out in. Apologies if it belongs somewhere else.

I'm interested in learning a bit about the zetetic method. I hadn't ever heard of zeteticism before discovering this website, and research around it hasn't been super fruitful for me, so the only information I have about it is what I've read on the front page and wiki.

What I gather, then, is that it's different from science in that it postulates no hypotheses, merely makes observations and then seeks to explain those observations. So the great Rowbotham observed that the surfaces of bodies of water are flat, and concluded that therefore the Earth must be flat.
But beyond that, I don't see the principles of zeteticism being applied. I observe the sun sinking towards, and then gradually disappearing behind, the horizon every evening. It then rises from behind the (roughly) opposite horizon the next morning.These observations would lead me to conclude that the sun travels around the Earth on a daily cycle, or else that the Earth itself revolves. The fine minds on this forum and elsewhere have worked out the mechanics of refraction, and the magnification of light through dense media, which is commendable work, but isn't postulating the existence of such phenomena a scientific, rather than a zeteticism, practice?

What am I missing?

PS. Sorry if my spelling is a bit mad, I'm typing this on a phone and am at the mercy of autocorrect

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: May 08, 2017, 08:09:13 AM »
Dang. I had looked for answers to this question myself, but couldn't find any good literature on the topic. I was hoping that some voice of reason like our good Mr Bishop might have some insight for me. Painful though it can be, sometimes all we can do is accept that there is much we still don't know, such as what is happening in the region close to the sun. A reminder that the universe is still full of mystery.

Still, I have to admit to a little disappointment. Especially when superficially it would seem like we do know so much. That there will be an eclipse, for instance. And when, down to the minute, and which parts of the world will see it fully or partially...

Flat Earth Debate / Which Is Our Map?
« on: April 21, 2017, 08:03:24 AM »
Hi, chaps and chapettes!

I've been looking to buy a large poster of an accurate, political map of the world for a while now. I just think they make cool decorations, plus it's a bit of a hobby of mine to learn capital cities.

All the modern versions are, of course, drawn up by the RE conspirators that run the decent print companies. I'm looking for a map as up-to-date as showing Sudan and South Sudan as separate countries, but all the real flat Earth maps available in poster size are cute antique-looking mockeries with dragons in the Indian Ocean.

This did get me thinking, though, that we don't seem to agree about how our map should look. The Globalists are, to grudgingly give them their due, consistent in their representation of the Earth (which only stands to reason - it's easy to get a few billion sheep to agree upon a lie, whereas the truth invites dispute). And the other thing... and I'm just playing devil's advocate here... it seems to...


it works.

It's a well constructed lie. It models things like the times of sunsets and the position of the stars at least as well as our model. On the other hand, we don't even have an agreed-upon arrangement of the major landmasses. And the representations we do have tend to be, gratingly, photoshopped RE maps. I don't mean to criticise, I'm not saying that cartography is an easy discipline. I'm just a bit shaken by these thoughts.

Could someone please offer up their opinion on which is the most accurate world map we've got so far? (Even better if you can point me in the direction of where I might be able to buy a poster!)

Many thanks, friends

Flat Earth Debate / If the Earth were really round...
« on: April 13, 2017, 01:47:12 PM »
...then why would it be so hard to convince us?

Despite your claims to have a wealth of strong evidence for Round Earth Theory, there are still thousands of Flat Earthers, all around the world! Including some very ingenious and deliberate thinkers. If it were truly clear that the Earth wasn't flat, do you not think we'd accept it?

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Angle that the sun should be at sunset
« on: April 07, 2017, 08:23:45 PM »
Sweet, thanks for replying!

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like the Electromagnetic Accelerator equation is ready to be applied yet, as per your suggestion. Bishop's constant hasn't been defined and the theory isn't complete yet, let alone experimentally verified (reportedly the theory was close to complete three years ago, so hopefully the first experiments will be just around the corner!)

In any case it's very mathsy. I had to look up GCSE trigonometry to pose my question properly in the first place, so does anybody out there have a layman's answer for me?

Flat Earth Debate / Angle that the sun should be at sunset
« on: April 07, 2017, 11:52:09 AM »
Howdi, folks.

Sorry to hear about Shaq's betrayal.

Anyway, I live in Nottingham, UK, and right now as I post this the sun is somewhere over Cameroon. About eight hours from now it will be over the Pacific due south of Baja California, somewhere between the tropic of cancer and the equator, roughly 6600 miles from me. I will be well into civil twilight, going on nautical twilight. I will have watched the sun sink below the horizon, yet if it maintains a height of roughly 3000 miles above the surface of our flat earth, I should still, with my telescope, expect to find it around 27° above my eyeline.

How are we reconciling this?

Resources are to find out where the sun is, to approximate distances around the world, and because I haven't used trigonometry in nearly two decades.

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