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So no hard data, just trials and anecdotes. Got it.

It says that American doctors just started using this for COVID-19 very recently. You want them to do a trial in a week? Sounds like trolling to me.

I wasn’t expecting anything. You said it’s being used to fight COVID but that isn’t true. They are hoping it will fight COVID, but the truth is they don’t know. So all we have is a trial and some anecdotes. Got it?

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So no hard data, just trials and anecdotes. Got it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 02:18:40 AM »
Imagine being Trump and having the power to stop people from dying and using it to get the rich richer.

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Evidence based medicine, thanks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 23, 2020, 01:26:18 PM »
I see you've "accidentally" forgotten to point out that the screenshot of the article where they called it that is 2 months before the article where they report that someone said it was harmful.
Obviously if they have continued to call it that then I guess you have a point.
Have they?

I also haven't seen them cross out corona to insert Chinese either.  Perhaps they listened to criticism and changed their tone?  Perhaps they haven't and it was a one-time gaff.  Either way, unless there is a pattern of behaviour, like you mentioned, I don't think this is comparable to what Trump is doing.

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 20, 2020, 12:16:22 PM »
I could see all of them just fine.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 19, 2020, 09:54:24 PM »
Well you are up to speed now. 

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 19, 2020, 04:52:42 PM »
It only counts for him if the ball thingamagigs move on the linemabobs. That’s his standard for facts.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 19, 2020, 11:39:35 AM »
UBI, or any other kind of cash based welfare, is not a form of socialism.

It’s what plenty of America a would call socialism, which is the point. Free healthcare isn’t socialism either, but is opposed as such.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 19, 2020, 02:14:46 AM »
Will the socialism haters take the handout is the question?

Yeah. I’m looking forward to getting some of my money back that I donated to a career welfarer.

That... That’s not how taxes work.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 18, 2020, 11:53:56 PM »
Will the socialism haters take the handout is the question?

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 18, 2020, 06:53:06 PM »
This of course completely ignores that you have been shown simulations of orbits in this thread using Newton's equations.  Its very sad when your position requires you to ignore evidence while you provide none.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 16, 2020, 12:51:02 PM »
Because you guys keep writing about the STELLAR GOVERNMENT RECORD over the years at actually fixing problems or caring for its populace, but seem to not have the actual specifics about what STELLAR GOVERNMENT RECORD over the years at actually fixing problems or caring for its populace actually is.

How many people have they actually helped?

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 16, 2020, 12:40:47 PM »
You’ve seen a solar system can be modeled with Newton’s laws but for some reason you think that adding a velocity to the sun renders the entire enterprise impossible? Explain why that step makes the whole thing fall apart at least.
It falls apart because if it didn't fall apart you would not try to deflect the topic to a model that doesn't depict the sun moving.

I tried, but you obviously have nothing of substance to say on the topic. Take it easy.

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 14, 2020, 09:01:50 PM »
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I am getting at providing an accurate CGI representation of a moving solar system, according to the scientists...you know, real "sciency," based on Newton/Kepler/Einstein math...

I don’t know if that exists

Of course it does. Take any CGI model of a stationary solar system, set it running on your computer screen, then get up and walk past the screen. The screen (and hence the model) is now moving relative to you.

Boom!  But unfortunately we aren't moving quite fast enough.  How about we set up a giant TV on Earth and film it from the ISS?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2020, 08:46:23 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/fed-to-pump-more-than-500-billion-into-short-term-bank-funding-expand-types-of-security-purchases.html

For a country that hates socialism they certainly seem to jump in to it feet first when it involves financial markets.

But let’s not expand Medicaid to get help to people who need it.
Can you point specifically to who needs it?

People who would end up with medical debt if they were hospitalized or lose time to sickness they cannot afford.

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And if you are for helping, then why not help everybody?

I am for universal medical coverage.  The US just tossed more than enough cash at the banking system to adequately cover the basic needs of every US citizen for a month, not just medical coverage, but enough to cover room and board.  Socialism for banks but not for citizens is a particular brand of messed up.

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 14, 2020, 06:51:42 PM »
I am happy to continue this conversation.  Just need you to confirm that we saw the same thing: namely the video creator coding for newton's law of gravitation and laws of motion?
I heard her mention it.
And you saw her input code that used Newton’s laws?  Would you agree that this is a model of bodies in orbit using Newton’s Laws?
Why do you want me and everyone else to think this model is anything like the one I posted in the OP. Here it is again:

Now, please answer the question. Does the model you provide depict the sun moving or not?
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Now, kindly inform us all how that could be relevant if the model's visual output does NOT render a visual image of the sun appearing to move as in the gif I presented in the OP...

As mentioned it’s a matter of Newtonian relativity. If you want to model the motion of planets relative to the sun, you don’t need to account for the motion of the sun. Modeling the motion of the sun through the galaxy is an exponentially more complex matter. I would be surprised if we have enough data to plot its motion as accurately as with planets in the solar system. The gif above is not difficult to create but it’s meant to be an illustration of principle rather than an accurate model.
Well, since I asked for an accurate model that looked like the one I presented in the OP and you can't find it, I think we all can take that as an admission it can't be done.

Newton/Kepler/Einstein really doesn't work as advertised.

Thanks for owning up to this fact.

You’ve seen a solar system can be modeled with Newton’s laws but for some reason you think that adding a velocity to the sun renders the entire enterprise impossible? Explain why that step makes the whole thing fall apart at least.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2020, 02:03:12 PM »
It’s relative my man. I’m impressed that Trump went from doing nothing to shutting down European travel in a short time. The US has been the absolute bottom of the barrel among western nations in dealing with this.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 13, 2020, 01:15:20 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/fed-to-pump-more-than-500-billion-into-short-term-bank-funding-expand-types-of-security-purchases.html

For a country that hates socialism they certainly seem to jump in to it feet first when it involves financial markets.

But let’s not expand Medicaid to get help to people who need it.

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Technology & Information / Re: Just look at this...
« on: March 13, 2020, 12:36:58 PM »
I am happy to continue this conversation.  Just need you to confirm that we saw the same thing: namely the video creator coding for newton's law of gravitation and laws of motion?
I heard her mention it.

And you saw her input code that used Newton’s laws?  Would you agree that this is a model of bodies in orbit using Newton’s Laws?

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Now, kindly inform us all how that could be relevant if the model's visual output does NOT render a visual image of the sun appearing to move as in the gif I presented in the OP...

As mentioned it’s a matter of Newtonian relativity. If you want to model the motion of planets relative to the sun, you don’t need to account for the motion of the sun. Modeling the motion of the sun through the galaxy is an exponentially more complex matter. I would be surprised if we have enough data to plot its motion as accurately as with planets in the solar system. The gif above is not difficult to create but it’s meant to be an illustration of principle rather than an accurate model.

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