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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 21, 2019, 06:55:43 PM »
When Hillary deals with the Saudi's, the Saudis are corrupt and bad.  When Trump deals with the Saudis they are one of our closest allies.  That hypocrisy.
I would submit it depends on the types of dealings.

Suggesting nuclear technology should be shared is the initial part of the deal. Nothing taken in return yet for one.

25 million USD? That was definitely taken...

Thats a reasonable way to approach it, but that has nothing to do with Trump's stance.  He was condemning Hillary for dealing with the Saudi's at all.  It did not matter to him what was taken or not.  But now that it is him, it appears to be a non-issue.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 21, 2019, 01:37:04 PM »
When Hillary deals with the Saudi's, the Saudis are corrupt and bad.  When Trump deals with the Saudis they are one of our closest allies.  That hypocrisy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 20, 2019, 05:38:30 PM »

Lots of people pay a lot of money for presidential speeches.  George W Bush gets about 175k per speech and no one really liked him by the time he left office.

Do you care that Trump before the election could only criticize the Clinton foundation taking money from Saudi's because of how corrupt the Saudi's are, but now is trying to get them nuclear materials?
Nuclear materials?

There is no attempt to get the Saudis nuclear materials.[/quote]

Technology.  Muh bad.

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What is wrong with HRC getting criticized by anyone?

Nothing.  Do you have a problem with Trump's hypocrisy is the question.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 20, 2019, 05:17:21 PM »
Hillary didn't sell uranium to Russia.

https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2018/dec/07/blog-posting/complex-tale-involving-hillary-clinton-uranium-rus/
Blah, blah, blah...

Of course there is no bill of receipt signed by Vladimir Putin and HRC...

But there is the little matter of contributions to the Clinton Foundation from Russia via Frank Giustra.

Not to mention 500k paid to Slick Willy for a speech...

LOL! Who the hell pays 500k for a speech?

Let's see what Huber finds out...

Lots of people pay a lot of money for presidential speeches.  George W Bush gets about 175k per speech and no one really liked him by the time he left office.

Do you care that Trump before the election could only criticize the Clinton foundation taking money from Saudi's because of how corrupt the Saudi's are, but now is trying to get them nuclear materials?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 20, 2019, 01:36:28 PM »
Fix your post, Noob.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 13, 2019, 01:07:25 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-loses-border-wall-challenge-at-appeals-court/ar-BBTvrCo?li=BBnbcA1
More "bad orange man," douchebaggery struck down...
"The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday rejected arguments by the state of California and environmental groups who tried to block work that has mostly been completed near San Diego and Calexico.

The 2-1 opinion upheld a lower court decision that found the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 allows the Department of Homeland Security to avoid lengthy environmental reviews to speed construction of border barriers."

Sounds like a piece of Clinton era legislation being held up. Nothing to do with Trump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 05, 2019, 05:16:31 PM »
Probably because of the wacky Californians not getting properly vaccinated.

Um excuse me it is actually the raw water.
Lies, unless its organic water, a real Californian would never drink it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 05, 2019, 03:47:24 PM »
Probably because of the wacky Californians not getting properly vaccinated.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 04, 2019, 12:29:35 PM »
It’s almost like the government isn’t the only factor controlling the economy. Huh.
When you eliminate nonsensical GOVERNMENT regulations and allow consumers to actually decide with DOLLARS...
(ala TRUMP!), you too could have results like this!

In your opinion which policies that Trump put in place were the most important for the economic upswing?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 04, 2019, 12:06:48 PM »
It’s almost like the government isn’t the only factor controlling the economy. Huh.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:46:44 AM »
Pats to NFL: GG
NFL to Pats: Get fucked

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 01, 2019, 11:29:15 PM »
The US is still waiting for the sanctions on Russian promised by Trump following the assassination in England. Meanwhile they lift sanctions on Russian aluminum instead of getting rid of the tariff on Canadian aluminum.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: February 01, 2019, 12:18:38 PM »
Drug Traffickers admittedly use the southern terrestial border of the united states very rarely. Instead they use nautical and aerial methods of smuggling.  The border wall will be irrelevant to the stemming the flow of illegal drugs.
Oops...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-make-largest-fentanyl-bust-u-s-history-n965486

"In the latest case, the tractor-trailer was stopped Saturday trying to enter the U.S. through the border checkpoint in Nogales, Arizona."

Yeah, that reads just like a nautical or aerial shipment...

One could only imagine what would happen with no wall directing traffic to a legitimate point of entry...probably nothing...
How much (involuntary)human trafficking goes through the non-fenced US border, Tom?
How much Drugs?  Not drugs that go through ports of entry, I mean stuff that goes through non-walled areas.
See above.
Also, the border is tight.  We don't need additional walls.
You and your mouse sitting comfortably in your basement maybe not...the rest of us, think it is a very good idea.
"With so much talk about the Wall, people are losing sight of the great job being done on our Southern Border by Border Patrol, ICE and our great Military. Remember the Caravans? Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight." -Senior White House Official
Yeah, the senior WH official is a jackwagon quote, probably just like the rest of the frequent jackwagon quotes you so frequently find...much in the same vein as, "anonymous sources."

Largest fentanyl bust in history != terrestrial transportation their main smuggling method.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: February 01, 2019, 01:02:16 AM »
In the image the text actually specifically says "Global human trafficking." It seems that is you who can't get their facts straight, and appear to have been outsmarted by "Jali_Cat" on the twitters.

Right, but there's no mention of the US, let alone the southern border, in the UN report that references that figure. Yet somehow it manages to insinuate that Democrats are profiting from Global Human Traffic. Odd, disingenuous and irrelevant to this thread. I think you're the one that who got outsmarted by the twitters.

Why does there have to? International Human Traffickers have an interest in keeping the US borders open in effort to increase revenue flow there. As do International Drug Cartels. The quote is accurate, and relevant.

Drug Traffickers admittedly use the southern terrestial border of the united states very rarely. Instead they use nautical and aerial methods of smuggling.  The border wall will be irrelevant to the stemming the flow of illegal drugs.   i sincerely doubt a wall between Mexico and the USA will do much to stifle the global human trafficking problem.  Education and economic development are the likely antidotes to terrible problems like those.  Posting irrelevant numbers like "$32 billion!!!" or "50,000,000 people are involved in human trafficking!!!" is partisan hackery in the shape of hyperbole and contributes little in the way of solutions to the problem. 

The democrats have already offered to partially fund the border wall/fence/barrier, so why not give that a chance and see if it can grow from there. In doing so, the government won't have to bite the people who they are ultimately there to serve.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 31, 2019, 12:28:08 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/30/689938744/trump-faults-spy-bosses-as-break-widens-between-what-they-advise-and-what-he-doe


Literally no shocker there.

inb4 Trump misrepresenting security and intelligence issues is some kind of Art of the Deal masterplan. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Anti-Vaxxers
« on: January 30, 2019, 01:00:00 PM »
It is almost as if neither of you clicked the source I provided showing that vaccinations do create superbugs.

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/are-vaccines-creating-superbugs/

I wrote two sentences and you didn’t read them. You didn’t even have to click a link.

There is a pretty good chance this site is full of shit though. Their first source is a dead link and their second source clearly says that their data in inconclusive. Meanwhile vaccination effectively wiped out polio and measles.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 29, 2019, 04:42:23 PM »
The contractors do get paid, fyi. I see that you cannot point to where he actually lost anything.

He lost 10 points in his approval rating.  He lost credibility that he will build a wall at any cost. He lost bargaining position because now the Dems know that he will cave on a shutdown if planes can't take off anymore.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Anti-Vaxxers
« on: January 29, 2019, 01:11:00 PM »
Yeah, vaccines don’t attack viruses, they stimulate antibody growth in humans so that viruses cannot survive once they infect a human. So if there are antibody immune viruses then this was inevitable in a way that antibiotic superbugs are not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 29, 2019, 01:03:35 PM »
@Honk as much as the creative accounting evident in Trump’s return might be unsavory to those of us living paycheque to paycheque, there is nothing illegal or unethical about using the tax code’s provision for loss carry-forwards.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 28, 2019, 02:08:24 PM »
Trump keeps one promise over here and breaks another over there...
What promise has he broke?

He did not enact a number of the tax reforms he promised.
Oh...

1) Which ones?

I won’t name all of them, but as an example, closing the interest carry-over loophole. Funny that a guy who is there to drain the swamp keeps a loophole open that overwhelmingly benefits the wealthy.

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B. Were those "promises," accompanied with the language, "...by this (insert time frame here)..., I will have done this!"

Where did the goalposts go? Oh, you moved them.

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III. He is not out of office yet...He has kept more of his promises than any president, of any country, in recent memory!

How many promises has he kept and how many more is that than Obama, Bush and Clinton?


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