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Flat Earth Theory / The ISS, and how can people see it with telescopes?
« on: December 13, 2018, 05:02:58 AM »
Hey all. Here's a question I've been wondering about. There's a website which shows you where on earth the ISS will be travelling over and when. What exactly is the ISS in the flat earth model? How come it can be observed using fairly run of the mill telescopes and cameras? Numerous photographers worldwide have captured the ISS during a transit of the moon. It is surprisingly easy to do! I personally observed the ISS pass over my city using a pretty cheap telescope I got when I was a kid. The beautiful thing about stuff like this is that it is objectively verifiable; you too can go outside with a Nikon P900, look up the date and location of the next lunar transit of the ISS, and then take pictures of it in transit! More expensive telescopes exist which can, and have taken high resolution pictures of the ISS, although you can't do this yourself unless you can afford a multi million dollar telescope!

Flat Earth Theory / Flat earth map/distance to the sun/solar eclipses
« on: December 06, 2018, 04:27:12 AM »
Hey all.

I've been trying to find a consistent map that depicts the earth according to the views of flat-earthers. I cannot find one; some flat earthers say that the earth is a dome, some flat-earthers say that the earth is literally flat (in otherwords; it is a literal plane). If the earth is a literal plane and has no global curvature, then a one to one area preserving angle preserving projection from the flat earth onto a Cartesian coordinate system must necessarily exist based on the basics of differential geometry. To clarify; a dome has global curvature. A flat surface with small scale irregularities that average out over large scales to equal 0 has no global curvature. I would like to look at this map to calculate areas of countries and straight line (geodesic) distances between cities. If there is a 'flat earth' model where the earth has global curvature, then I would like if the person who provides the map could provide the mathematical projection used to create said map. This is because any truly curved surface (a 'truly' curved surface in this sense is a surface which is NOT globally homeomorphic to a flat surface) cannot have be mapped onto a flat-plane without angular/area distortion; hence the projection used is relevant.

In addition, I've been looking for the path that flat earthers suggest that the sun takes throughout the sky. How far away is the sun from the earth? How large is the sun? A sun that is close and small would have some interesting consequences; namely that the apparent size of the sun would change dramatically depending on where on the earth you are. My final question (for now) is this: Using the flat earth model; can we predict the date and time of solar eclipses? More importantly; can we predict the precise path which the eclipse will take? Can we also predict the percentage of the sun that will be blocked out, and the area of land that will be subject to the eclipse at any given time throughout the eclipse? I ask this because this is something which can be predicted to a very high degree of precision using conventional astronomy. As an example; the next total solar eclipse in North America will occur on April 8th, 2024. It's path will go through Mexico and 9 American States, in addition to going over Newfoundland in Canada. The total solar eclipse that occurred on August 21st, 2017 was predicted to occur decades before it actually did using conventional astronomy (the spherical earth model).

A final question I'd like to ask would be how the flat earth model predicts seasons, and specifically how/why the length of day varies throughout the year depending on your location. Take iceland for example. In iceland the day-length varies depending on what time of the year it is; from around may to august the sun sets for 3-4 hours per day, and you have 20-21 hours of daylight. In the middle of winter you have 5-6 hours of daylight. Iceland is a nation with a population of around 300 thousand people; this is a place where many people live, and they can attest to the seasonal variations in daylight hours. At the equator however daylight is approximately constant throughout the year. So the question then would be how the flat earth model can predict the precise and well documented seasonal variations in daylight hours as a function of your location.

I'd like to end by saying this; I'm not here to insult anybody. I'm not here to be rude to anybody. I hope that those who respond to this post have a similar attitude. Just because our beliefs may be quite different it doesn't mean that we have to be rude to each-other. We can show each-other the basic respect that we as human beings deserve to be shown.

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