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##### Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why is the Earth accelerating at 9.8 metres per second?
« on: Today at 01:00:50 PM »
I gathered Junker..........I will have to wait to see if any alternative explanations are offered in this thread as the Wiki or FAQ does not explain enough.

It is no different than RE in this regard (in terms of the concepts involved). The Universal Acceleration model has everything in earth's non-inertial frame of reference accelerating at the same rate. Due to the Equivalence Principle, this is literally no different than "gravity."

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##### Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why is the Earth accelerating at 9.8 metres per second?
« on: Today at 09:31:54 AM »
... as surely if it was travelling on a level plain it would be hit by the upwards earth?

No, that is not how it works at all...

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: The sun
« on: September 20, 2017, 05:46:08 PM »
Ah, so you figured that if you'd insert a complicated equation on your wiki page and sprinkle it with some blanket statements, that would be proof enough. If that's convincing enough for you, good luck with that! I am willing to bet money that the math there either doesn't work or doesn't apply, but I personally don't know enough about Lorentz transformations to tell. I doubt anyone here knows anything about that either though. The claim is still laughable though, and it requires proof and experimentation on your end... but you'll say no one wants to give you funding... boohoo, poor little flatties...

Nice job boxing yourself into the corner where you have no chance of learning anything new. So pathetic, and so typical of flatheads.

In regards to the burden of proof: it's been a few hundred years now that the entire scientific community has known gravity to be an observable force, easily proven with countless experiments (as demonstrated on this very forum like a billion times). Your universal acceleration idea is laughable - if it were true, the Earth would be moving many many times faster than light by now, which is obviously impossible. All flerfers can do is inaptly pick at various basic science ideas they don't understand -- there is no actual evidence for your claims, and no experiments to prove them. So, nice try, but the burden of proof is still on you guys.

Ah, so not only do you not understand how the burden of proof works, you also don't understand acceleration or Special Relativity. Excellent to know, as it reinforces that you haven't read the wiki or FAQ (hint: we would not be moving faster than the speed of light). I'd suggest you look in the mirror before accusing people of inaptly picking at various basic science ideas they don't understand.

Maybe try to work on some humility. Instead of getting triggered and lashing out, try asking about the things you don't understand. You seem rather emotionally immature, which won't get you far if your goal is to have actual discussions. Again, if you just want to whine and complain, we have fora for that, too.

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##### Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: September 20, 2017, 03:43:43 AM »
This may blow your mind, but I've been playing The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild since March 3rd. Just beat it. This also may shock you, but I am crying and sniffly and my brain is full of love and sadness. This is also why I've been gone from IRC because I've just been dedicating every moment to playing it.

Not reading any further to avoid any potential spoilers, but I finally bought myself a Switch and also BotW. Will report back once I have beat it.

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##### Arts & Entertainment / Re: Final Fantasy XV
« on: September 20, 2017, 03:40:04 AM »
While I haven't gone back and replayed any other FFs yet, I have dumped over 120 hours into FFXV, although I haven't really played in a couple months. I've finished all the things and done all the DLC episodes so far. One more to go this December. They really did an amazing job with this world. Pitioss was especially fun (plebs who play pleb PC games need not bother, at least until 2018 when you're actually allowed to play a real game (FFXV)).

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is Flat what is below it?
« on: September 20, 2017, 12:32:19 AM »
While I appreciate your thought and opinion on the topic, there is an edit button. No need to triple post, you can succinctly provide your opinion in one post.

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##### Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Flat Earth and God
« on: September 20, 2017, 12:30:15 AM »
Does a person have to believe in God in order to believe that the Earth is flat?

No, but some Atheists have become Agnostics after making the switch.

In other words FET lends itself to a Creator myth, and it can magnify your religious convictions.
You bring whatever you have to the table, and if you have nothing, you'll probably look for something.

Excellent point Dither, Flat earth does need a "myth" to lean on. This is what causes the debates here to be so one sided: FE uses mythology, belief and denial whilst the RE simply use science and the latest accepted, provable fact.

Except that is not what happens here save for maybe a few users who are particularly religious. I'd suggest reading the FAQ and wiki as it is obvious you haven't done so (otherwise you would avoid ignorant posts such as this).

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: The sun
« on: September 19, 2017, 08:37:46 PM »
In regards to the burden of proof: it's been a few hundred years now that the entire scientific community has known gravity to be an observable force, easily proven with countless experiments (as demonstrated on this very forum like a billion times). Your universal acceleration idea is laughable - if it were true, the Earth would be moving many many times faster than light by now, which is obviously impossible. All flerfers can do is inaptly pick at various basic science ideas they don't understand -- there is no actual evidence for your claims, and no experiments to prove them. So, nice try, but the burden of proof is still on you guys.

Ah, so not only do you not understand how the burden of proof works, you also don't understand acceleration or Special Relativity. Excellent to know, as it reinforces that you haven't read the wiki or FAQ (hint: we would not be moving faster than the speed of light). I'd suggest you look in the mirror before accusing people of inaptly picking at various basic science ideas they don't understand.

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##### Technology & Information / Re: I Bought a Sony Xperia X
« on: September 19, 2017, 05:02:28 PM »
However, when I initially unlocked my phone back when I got it, I was unaware about the DRM key situation I described in the previous post. Long story short is that the camera on my Xperia is borked. There is a workaround which involves going back to a custom ROM, which I will eventually do so I can regain full functionality.

I finally ended up applying the kernel fix since I was tired of not having a working camera. Test drove a couple custom ROMs, but settled on the same Sony Concept ROM for Android 7.1.2 that I had before (just rooted this time, with the DRM fix). So far, so good. Going to fix my iPhone 6 again and continue on with my previous plan of getting SailfishOS for my Xperia X when becomes available in the US.

May still end up buying something new after the Pixel event, but at least I am not in dire need at the moment.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: The sun
« on: September 19, 2017, 04:40:47 PM »
I think everyone's tired of your bogus wiki at this point - it's always been nonsense, and it will remain nonsense until you start doing actual research.
Coming from someone who doesn't seem to have read the wiki, this doesn't mean much. If you claim to have read it, I'd suggest doing it again, because you are lacking in the very basics. If you need help, I would suggest asking.

They're yet to prove it doesn't exist. They can't of course. But don't just give them that premise.
You really do not understand how burden of proof works, do you?

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is Flat what is below it?
« on: September 19, 2017, 02:34:14 PM »

Hello Everyone,

Recently i came across a movie named

"Polaris Star-World Transformer Brahmasta"

which talks about the confluence of Science & Spirituality and opens up  secrets behind many mysteries like

1.) Flat Earth
2.) The Bermuda Triangle
3.) Dinosaurs
4.) God and His role
6.) World Transformation
7.) Heaven on Earth

Watch this movie

video

Please stop spamming this all over the fora. If you want to start a discussion topic, then you are welcome to do so, but there is no reason to repeatedly post the same video when it has no bearing on the thread you are posting it in.  Consider this a warning. Continued spamming will result in a ban.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Cassini–Huygens mission
« on: September 19, 2017, 02:33:04 PM »
What does FE'er think of Cassini–Huygens mission?
They believe that everything NASA does is faked...end of story.

That is simply false. No reason try to poison the well by lying to new users.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Flat earth is not a viable model
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:56:59 PM »

video

Two things. First, there is no reason to post this video in multiple threads at the same time. Second, just posting a video without any useful context is considered low-content. If you want to post a video, at least include context conducive to a discussion. Consider this a warning.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: why do stars change on FE
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:53:47 PM »

I guess from the lack of response from Tom or any other FE believer that there is no further answer here from them. Flat earth has failed to put even a half decent response to this question which, in itself is enough to sink the FE ship.

You do you realize that people have a life outside of posting on this forum, right? It literally has been just over a day since Tom's last post. If you have nothing substantial to add to threads in the upper fora, then please refrain from posting. We have dedicated fora if you want to post just to bitch about FE or proclaim how correct you are. Consider this a warning.

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##### Flat Earth General / Re: Exposing a flat earth liar: Eric Dubay
« on: September 19, 2017, 04:05:25 AM »
Yep, this seems to be a trend with flathead content and conspiracy theories in general -- they always wanna blame someone for the world being unfair, and who's easier to blame than the jews? They'd blame the black people if they could, but you get your ass kicked these days for doing that. But jew-hating -- that seems to be quite acceptable amongst the uneducated. Hence all the flerfers, holocaust deniers, and antivaxers. It's easy to be duped into believing one lie, if you already believe a few others of the same sort.

This is definitely a trend not to be ignored, so thank you for pointing this out!

I am not sure what you are trying to do here but it sure seems like projection on your part. Maybe you have tfes.org confused with another group, but the people here tend to think Eric Dubay is insane and is in no way supported by this community.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homemade footage of curvature of the earth
« on: September 19, 2017, 04:00:31 AM »
Hmm, I think you just may be a bit biased here, junker
Good for you. If you have an issue with my moderation, feel free to open a thread in S&C about it for the admins to review.

Dude, the thread was silent for a while there... I hardly think I did any damage, but fine, have it your way - let's get back on track here, while you enjoy your power trip.
The amount of activity is irrelevant to your off-topic post. Feel free to revive threads if you are actually going to contribute beyond "hurr durr no FEer has responded as fast as I want." And I am sorry if you think holding you accountable to the rules that you clearly haven't read constitutes a power trip in your mind.

I'd love to see someone try and find proof that it's somehow fake.
It isn't up to the FE side to prove your videos to be fake. It is up to you to prove they are real as you are the one who is attempting to use them as evidence.

One other video, if you insist that they have to be of true home-made quality
Why on earth did you bother posting this video? I am pretty sure even in RE the horizon doesn't curve upward. You should probably gain an understanding of things like fisheye lenses as well as barrel distortion.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homemade footage of curvature of the earth
« on: September 19, 2017, 01:47:56 AM »
Lol.. Just pointing out the obvious here.
I am glad that is what you think you are doing. But it adds nothing to the discussion.

Speaking of content, what is the number of things per post I should be pointing out for it to be considered "enough-content"?
What? That has no bearing on anything. What you should be doing is contributing to the discussion if you want it not to be considered low-content.

Do you treat flerfer posts that have nothing but a denial of facts, plus maybe a crappy youtube video attached the same way?
If they are not on-topic or are low-content, then yes they get treated the same way.

Don't think so...
Ah, never mind, you weren't actually interested in an answer. Got it.

If you guys are sincerely seeking the truth here, shouldn't you address every hole that's being pointed out to you?
Many people do just that. I am sorry if you feel entitled to more of a response than you are getting.

Why are there no more flathead responses here?
Likely a variety of reasons. Entitled, smug RE logicians simply being one of them. Try to remember that no one owes you anything, certainly not a response to your whining.

A simple  "I admit, the Earth is round" would do nicely, and that's plenty of content right there by the way, even though it's only 6 words
Wow. Much edge. Such brave.

It just seems like every thread ends this way.
Cool story.

It actually was not enough for the upper fora since it has nothing to do with the topic. But, since I have addressed your nonsense, I expect you to stop derailing the thread. If you want to complain about how much you don't like FE, we have fora just for that at the bottom of the list. Just so you know, you will get two more warnings for low-content, then the ban process begins. Feel free to read the rules if you need any more info on that.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Homemade footage of curvature of the earth
« on: September 19, 2017, 12:51:53 AM »
** crickets **

Yet again, all a true flerfer can do is pretend they haven't seen the evidence...

Hi there. Please refrain from low-content posts in the upper fora. If you having nothing to add to the discussion, then don't bother posting. Warned.

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##### Flat Earth Debate / Re: Um I just want to know
« on: September 18, 2017, 10:47:32 PM »
So because Im new here, I just have a few questions for all the Flat-earthers. Even though I strongly believe the earth is a globe, Im open to new ideas!

1) Why is every other planet round, and ours isn't?
2) If you're so hell-bent on proving the Earth is flat, whats the point? Why would the government try to hide that the earth is flat?
3) Are any of you open for an interview? I really would want some more answers directly from you.
4) If everything is flat, then gravity would pull everyone to the center of the earth, or it would just morph back into a sphere, its just physics. How can you explain this?
Thank you very much!

Welcome. I'd suggest starting with the FAQ and the wiki.

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##### Flat Earth Q&A / MOVED: Anyone up for an interview?
« on: September 18, 2017, 09:50:52 PM »

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