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Flat Earth Theory / Why government?
« on: January 16, 2018, 09:15:13 PM »
Why would the government lie to us? What would they have to gain from us believing the earth is flat? How would the earth being flat have affected our day to day?

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Without getting into a debate (as this is the incorrect forum), I am still unsure as to why you postulate earthquakes cannot exist on a flat earth.

Have you ever fried an egg and had some of the bubbles on the egg white pop? The whole egg trembles as a result.

That egg is otherwise flat and motionless in the pan.
I see what you are saying but... what are the bubbles on earth? Last I checked there aren't any massive bubbles slowly growing where fault lines are presumably located. I am not that well versed in other forms of natural earthquakes that cause significant seismic activity besides volcano and other explosions. Perhaps you could inform me.
It was not my intent to make this a debate. the way I see it we are having a discussion and trying to understand each other's points of view.
I apologize for not responding to so long, my wifi was down.

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How deep can we dig without falling out the other side? because we have dug more than a mile straight down so it has to be thicker than that.

Well there are two theories: the one that's like a plate (the dimensions idk) and the one were they say it's an infinite plain.
I'm no flat earther, but I do like the Idea of Infinite plain. (for reasons related to quantum physics)
But infinity is a paradox (at least to our feeble minds it is) and isn't an infinite plane that repeats itself is called a... oh I don't know, a GLOBE!
Repeats itself? Where do you get that idea? The infinite plane idea posits that we're essentially a lone dot on a giant field of finite depth and essentially infinite size. Which allows them to use 'traditional' gravity and still have it pull in the correct direction.
I get the idea of repeating itself because if you go south for a given number of miles you will end up where you started, the only way this could be possible for a flat earth is for it to repeat itself. I heard that many flat earth theorists believe that after the ice wall there is more earth that the government doesn't want us to see if this were true what would their motives be for doing this.
Ah, the 'going south and get back to where you start' is handled a number of different ways, depending on the model and the hypothesis being presented. Some posit that (since circumnavigation is done by instrumentation) people just don't notice going around to the other side. Or those who claim to have done pole to pole circumnavigation are lying. There are some positing a repeating map of some kind, but they are few and far between. The 'most likely' candidate for managing this is probably the non-Euclidean FE, which (to oversimplify it) is basically that instead of the Earth being curved, space/time is curved in such a way as to make the Earth *appear* curved. Interestingly enough this idea also appears to allow for space travel in some manner, or at least satellites. I'll admit most of the threads I've seen on this tend to move into discussions of the complex end of relativity and I have a hard time keeping up.
I see what you are saying and it makes sense if you know little about spacetime. the very concept of a flat earth is downright preposterous. Flight times closer to the north pole would be shorter and the flight times between Australia and Africa would be significantly longer the actual size of land masses is dilated to be smaller than how big it actually is. this website shows how big the countries actually are-  https://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTc1OTc4MjA.MTIxNDU1NzI   - I hope this will enlighten you and if your still convinced feel free to look up inertia.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Parallel universes
« on: December 21, 2017, 04:01:51 PM »
But if they believe in parallel universes, than there are universes where the Earth is a sphere?, right?
or our universe is round and some other ones are flat...

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How deep can we dig without falling out the other side? because we have dug more than a mile straight down so it has to be thicker than that.

Well there are two theories: the one that's like a plate (the dimensions idk) and the one were they say it's an infinite plain.
I'm no flat earther, but I do like the Idea of Infinite plain. (for reasons related to quantum physics)
But infinity is a paradox (at least to our feeble minds it is) and isn't an infinite plane that repeats itself is called a... oh I don't know, a GLOBE!
Repeats itself? Where do you get that idea? The infinite plane idea posits that we're essentially a lone dot on a giant field of finite depth and essentially infinite size. Which allows them to use 'traditional' gravity and still have it pull in the correct direction.
I get the idea of repeating itself because if you go south for a given number of miles you will end up where you started, the only way this could be possible for a flat earth is for it to repeat itself. I heard that many flat earth theorists believe that after the ice wall there is more earth that the government doesn't want us to see if this were true what would their motives be for doing this.

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Earthquakes occur because of plate tectonics rubbing against each other and the release of built up of pressure between them. Plates at our planet's surface move because of the intense heat in the Earth's core that causes molten rock in the mantle layer to move. It moves in a pattern called a convection cell that forms when warm material rises, cools, and eventually sink down. Without this, we would not have earthquakes or mountains and the phenomenon of our continents moving would be unexplainable. I am just curious to see if the flat earth theorists have something to say on this, and how it would be possible with a flat earth.

Don't you know? The earth is on the top of an infinite stack of turtles. Whenever a turtle moves, that's an earth quake. DUH... ;)
But like really though. I think that this alone disproves it because unless there's a giant oven 6,371 kilometers under us or something (extremely improbable) I don't see how the earth can be flat, It just doesn't add up.
They posit that the molten rock beneath the crust (which is known to be there) is created by the pressure and heat of the UA pressing into the bottom of the Earth. At least for a finite, infinitely accelerating Earth. I'm not sure how the infinite Earth theory works this in to be honest. They might allow it to fall under the blanket of "We don't know"
How does this explain Pangea?

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How deep can we dig without falling out the other side? because we have dug more than a mile straight down so it has to be thicker than that.

Well there are two theories: the one that's like a plate (the dimensions idk) and the one were they say it's an infinite plain.
I'm no flat earther, but I do like the Idea of Infinite plain. (for reasons related to quantum physics)
But infinity is a paradox (at least to our feeble minds it is) and isn't an infinite plane that repeats itself is called a... oh I don't know, a GLOBE!

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Earthquakes occur because of plate tectonics rubbing against each other and the release of built up of pressure between them. Plates at our planet's surface move because of the intense heat in the Earth's core that causes molten rock in the mantle layer to move. It moves in a pattern called a convection cell that forms when warm material rises, cools, and eventually sink down. Without this, we would not have earthquakes or mountains and the phenomenon of our continents moving would be unexplainable. I am just curious to see if the flat earth theorists have something to say on this, and how it would be possible with a flat earth.

Don't you know? The earth is on the top of an infinite stack of turtles. Whenever a turtle moves, that's an earth quake. DUH... ;)
But like really though. I think that this alone disproves it because unless there's a giant oven 6,371 kilometers under us or something (extremely improbable) I don't see how the earth can be flat, It just doesn't add up.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Trump signs NASA bill today..
« on: December 19, 2017, 07:18:53 PM »
I don't think we have ever been to the moon. It's probably impossible.
I have no doubt in my mind that we went to the moon. Why would they fake it?? It would be harder to fake the moon landing in the 1960s then actually go there.

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Earthquakes occur because of plate tectonics rubbing against each other and the release of built up of pressure between them. Plates at our planet's surface move because of the intense heat in the Earth's core that causes molten rock in the mantle layer to move. It moves in a pattern called a convection cell that forms when warm material rises, cools, and eventually sink down. Without this, we would not have earthquakes or mountains and the phenomenon of our continents moving would be unexplainable. I am just curious to see if the flat earth theorists have something to say on this, and how it would be possible with a flat earth.

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How deep can we dig without falling out the other side? because we have dug more than a mile straight down so it has to be thicker than that.

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