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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 07, 2018, 07:19:08 PM »
Thoughts on my follow up posts though??

Round Eyes, I'll give you one on the Zephyr.  I did not know anything like that existed, you demonstrated otherwise.  I'll still say its a big leap to say that the ISS is some sort of solar powered Zephyr-esk craft.  But I'll concede that there does exist a solar powered craft that appears to be able to sustain flight for extended periods of time.

Matt

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 06, 2018, 08:55:34 PM »
how about the mount on that 16" dob?  which one are you using again?  you havent responded on that. 

Or would you like to disclose that you did not in fact track the ISS with a 16" dobsonian?  its hard enough to hold on a planet that appears motionless in the sky by naked eye without it going out of the eyepiece's view for more than 15 seconds or so, but you are able to maneuver a very large telescope and keep it on a object travelling across the sky at that rate of angular speed.

Calm down Round Eyes.  I haven't responded for a very good reason,  you are mixing me up with someone else in this thread. Go talk to panicp from Thread reply 31.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 06, 2018, 07:08:57 PM »

in 1998 (same year as ISS launch BTW), they talk about the Pathfinder Plus solar plane that tested and reached an elevation of 80,000 feet.

later the Centurion/Helios prototype hit 100,000 feet.   check out the photos.  MANY similarities to the ISS images you see. 

Oh wait there is more!  the ERAST project which says 100,000 feet elevations and would be able to fly continously for weeks or MONTHs at a time with the assistance of a fuel cell.  Wow.  kind of what i have been saying.  crazy.  and all this straight from NASA.

now do you think there is a small chance that NASA doesnt disclose all there technology and what they really have is far more advanced?  thats not some wacky conspiracy theory....that would be a classified government program, like all these other ones we found out about well after the fact.

Way to go make my point for me.  You've found the best of the best when it comes to solar powered craft, armed with a dismal airspeed of around 20mph and inability to sustain flight for extended periods (though the altitude numbers are impressive).  Absolutely incapable of following the predictable flight path of the ISS.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 06, 2018, 05:34:44 PM »
On the contrary, I'm providing evidence of the best use of solar energy that has ever been seen.  They didn't fail, they did a phenomenal job. Fell way short of sustainable flight though.

Seems to me that Round Eyes is claiming the existence of perpetual solar powered aircraft without any evidence that such things can realistically exist.  I can provide a known example of my claim that solar isn't technically able to sustain long term flight...Can you provide a documented example of yours?



that was over 3 years ago and did almost 5 days.  that was a relatively low altitude plane as well.  interesting that the pictures look kind of like a type of ISS.   solar power in general on the private sector has made leaps in the past 5 years alone...and the government's solar capabilities are unknown but i can guarantee light years ahead of commercial applications.  They also have access to lighter/stronger materials than was used on the plane that did 5 days.

Let's say all that is true, its irrelevant. You are still unable to provide any evidence of your claim. 

And,  the ISS was in orbit years before the Impulse flight project.  The technological breakthroughs in solar over the past 5 years are also irrelevant.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 06, 2018, 04:06:34 PM »
On the contrary, I'm providing evidence of the best use of solar energy that has ever been seen.  They didn't fail, they did a phenomenal job. Fell way short of sustainable flight though.

Seems to me that Round Eyes is claiming the existence of perpetual solar powered aircraft without any evidence that such things can realistically exist.  I can provide a known example of my claim that solar isn't technically able to sustain long term flight...Can you provide a documented example of yours?


D - no, a solar or nuclear driven engine system would work just fine

Solar?  C'mon give me a break.  Solar doesn't have the capability to "work just fine".  The Impulse Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Impulse was a wonderful and noble idea, but seriously that plane couldn't stay airborne for any real length of time.  Courses were meticulous planned, weather conditions had to be analyzed over and over.  That plane had to be grounded for weeks at a time, or months for repairs and recharging. And still it took over a year for that plane to circumnavigate the earth.
So your argument against the issue of solar in this case is to provide an example of one that was privately funded and operated at a much lower altitude, ignoring the fact governments have access to more advanced tech...

C'mon give us a break...

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Global Positioning System
« on: August 06, 2018, 02:52:14 PM »
D - no, a solar or nuclear driven engine system would work just fine

Solar?  C'mon give me a break.  Solar doesn't have the capability to "work just fine".  The Impulse Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Impulse was a wonderful and noble idea, but seriously that plane couldn't stay airborne for any real length of time.  Courses were meticulous planned, weather conditions had to be analyzed over and over.  That plane had to be grounded for weeks at a time, or months for repairs and recharging. And still it took over a year for that plane to circumnavigate the earth.


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Hey Flat Earthers, Just wondering...
« on: February 28, 2018, 06:22:43 PM »
Yes, if you look at an unrepresentatively small sample of something, you're likely to arrive at funny conclusions.

This quote is so true, ironically, like when someone brings up the flatness of Kansas as evidence of a FE, or when they can't see the curvature of the planet from 30,000 feet up.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Night Skies.
« on: December 30, 2017, 05:45:27 AM »

Someone please help me understand.

The software developers for a program called Stellarium have this figured out.  http://stellarium.org/
Stellarium is an open source program that can display the star positions based on date/time and viewing location.  Since the program is open source, you can (or find a software developer who can) examine and reverse engineer the code.  Or, their developers have a forum.  You can ask for some guidance in that forum and maybe they will assist you with how they have been able to quite accurately predict star positions in the night sky.
Matt

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Globe Earth works
« on: December 02, 2017, 01:13:14 AM »
And Stellarium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarium_(software) can give you those accurate sunrise and sunset predictions, and over 600,000 stars according to its Wiki.  It's a very popular stargazing software program.  Can we assume that it's model is accurate? It is accurate to my empirical observations. 

Southern stars and star trails produce huge problems for the FE theory, yet this piece of open source software has figured it out.  These programmers make the source code publicly available, they are not trying to hide anything.  The conspiracy would be blown if it actually had to use something other than globe earth math.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Globe Earth works
« on: November 30, 2017, 08:06:34 PM »
so far no evidence has been provided showing that things are located and appear exactly where they are supposed to be.

An open source computer program called Stellarium (http://stellarium.org/) provides pretty good evidence.  I observe the stars to be where Stellarium says they are supposed to be, time and time again.  Have I matched every single star up?  Of course not.  But I haven't found it to be wrong yet. Its obvious to me that Stellarium's model works.

So I imagine its one of two cases : The earth is a globe and Stellarium uses globe model mathematics, or its flat and the Stellarium programmers have figured out the mathematics to accurately predict star locations worldwide and have not shared the math with the FE community.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Constellations
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:43:06 PM »
I hope this question is relevant to this thread. Why is it that I can only see the constellation Orion in the winter.  I live in the northern hemisphere, east coast USA.  I step outside at night during the winter, look southward and I see Orion...in the winter only. 

Why is Orion only visible in the winter from the NH, and in the summer months in the SH?

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