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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 30, 2016, 10:58:36 AM »

And another thing to bear in mind is that if we're looking at the sun on the horizon, we're not seeing it through the 25 miles or so of atmosphere straight above our heads, we're looking horizontally through the atmosphere and the distance to space is much greater. I've heard it said that it's more like 200 miles of atmosphere, most of which is the denser part atmosphere nearer the ground.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 30, 2016, 10:53:16 AM »

Oh and yes, the sun does appear higher than it actually is. That's why it is said that the sun has gone below the horizon before we see it go below.

The refraction makes the sun appear higher and therefore just above where it actually is.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 30, 2016, 10:51:21 AM »

No the opposite.

It bends towards the atmosphere not away from it.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 30, 2016, 07:51:53 AM »

No, it always bends towards the medium with a higher index of refraction. Intikam's diagram would be roughly correct if the water and air were reversed.

Fair enough, I'm still correct then. The light bends from air towards water in the first image, then from space towards air in my image.

Thus in my minds eye, it bends the same way. ( very simple language I know, but I'm a simple person )

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Curvature ?

« on: April 30, 2016, 07:43:57 AM »

Ok guys, way too technical for me.

I wasn't posting this as conclusive proof that the world is round, I just took this photo and thought I'd share it with you to see what you thought.

With the naked eye you could see the surface of the sea rising a little in the middle of the view compared to the left and right and I did my best to capture it with a smart phone.

As for the distance to the horizon, there was no way for me to work out my altitude above sea level so there's no point in even trying to do the maths. It would just be guessing.

It's a repeatable experiment that anyone can do while at the coast though. n

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 29, 2016, 09:41:41 PM »

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Curvature ?

« on: April 29, 2016, 09:07:56 PM »

Hallucinating ?

I post a couple of honest photos and explain honestly what I saw with my own eyes and I'm hallucinating ?

I expected some comments and discussion, but not this sort of personal abuse. Shame on you.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Curvature ?

« on: April 29, 2016, 08:54:22 PM »

Rather than your deceptive sense of curvature,

Not deceptive, I could clearly see the horizon rising in the middle, and falling to the left and right but couldn't fit them in a single photo.

I can't find a single photo of the right hand side of the balcony, I only have the panoramic one. So what I'm saying is that the panoramic photo is an honest representation of what I could see with my eyes, but it has distorted the image slightly so while it is an honest image, I understand that it can't be taken as granted that it's accurate.

This isn't a case that the balcony and the horizon were not exactly parallel as the horizon bent back down to the right hand side and this can be seen in the panoramic image, distortion or not.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Curvature ?

« on: April 29, 2016, 08:37:00 PM »

Yes there is, because the right hand half of the photo,shows the water bending back down to the surface of the rail.

You can see this in the first photo, but obviously as it's been tampered with due to the panoramic setting on the camera it can't be used as evidence.

By sitting behind the rail and crouching down to be level with it, I could see that the level of water rose in the middle and fell to the left and right. I couldn't take a photo that showed this as the phone camera can't get the whole image in one shot. That's why I did the panoramic image, but obviously no one's going to believe that one as you can see the distortion clearly.

I'll have a look to see if I can find a single photo of the right hand side, but there were trees in the way, so I'm not sure if I took it this way. It was only after travelling home that I uploaded the photo to the lap top, and once on the computer screen the image distorts with the panoramic setting.

I probably won't be able to repeat the experiment until I'm next at the seaside but maybe others that read this will be able to try and see what results they get.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How we see the sun as setting while it has moving away?

« on: April 29, 2016, 08:27:45 PM »

Come on guys, the original photo of the water bending / refracting  light is accurate. The second photo, is a drawing and is inacurate.

The light bends the same way, whether through air or water, maybe the angles are a bit different, but it still bends in the same direction.

The sun meets the horizon as it goes below it. The sun actually appears slightly higher in the sky than it really is, as it goes below the horizon it has actually already gone below it, but we see it delayed due to refraction. I'll draw a quick sketch and post it.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Gravity

« on: April 29, 2016, 08:17:53 PM »

Assuming that gravity is real and not a hoax.

The bullet fired from a gun dead horizontal will hit the ground at the same time as one that is dropped from the same height.

The bullet just travels further while it's falling.

A sniper bullet may travel a mile or more away from you, but falls at the same rate as one that that is dropped.

Gravity does not discriminate as you go faster.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Curvature ?

« on: April 29, 2016, 07:22:42 PM »

Now that I can see the image on the computer screen rather than the mobile screen, I can see that the panoramic function on the phone is distorting the image, especially the lower balcony rail. The following image is an original with no special filters used. You can see the same curvature by comparing the height of the balcony rail below the sea level right at the left hand side of the image, compared to the right hand side, I couldn't fit the whole image in from left to right, so that's why I used the panoramic function in the first place, but the curvature is still visible in this photo.

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Flat Earth Community / Curvature ?

« on: April 29, 2016, 07:12:49 PM »

I took this photo on holiday recently. If you compare the balcony rail of my hotel room to the surface of the sea, you can see that it curves compared to the straight balcony rail.

Just wondering what you guys think ?

This is using the cameras panoramic function where you move the camera from left to right as it can't fit the whole image in a normal shot.