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Flat Earth Theory / Gravitational Waves
« on: October 04, 2017, 06:16:54 PM »
With the recent awarding of the Nobel Prize in Physics, how do the detection of gravitational waves by LIGO fit into Flat Earth Theory?
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Mmhmm, I see.If your FAQs claim that you do not accept photographic materials as evidence, why have I seen numerous users post photographs supporting FET?
They are not accepted as evidence, but can be presented for discussion either way.
I have a question for all round earthers who are so certain that I must be crazy. If, for a minute, we could forget all about NASA and the school teachers we had indoctrinating us from the age of 5. I mean forget about them for a minute, just try and block out that part of your minds. Forget them and the media channels just while you're reading this. Lets pretend that you've just woken up from a coma and have absolutely no idea where you are or what's happening. You wake from a coma and are gradually nursed back to health by someone who happens to believe in flat earth. So while you relearn most things about the world and life and what you do and do not have to do, the one thing you are taught differently is that the earth is flat and stationary. Would you disbelieve it? I reckon you wouldn't? Would it be so hard to believe? I don't think so. Now imagine that after 10 or so years, someone tells you the earth is a ball! Some people are walking around on the 'underside' of it, it's actually spinning at 1,000mph around it's own centre and hurtling through space at 60,000mph! O, and that sun you see move above your head everyday is actually perfectly still and 93,000,000 miles away.You forget that believing FET requires a belief in a essentially global conspiracy, including everyone who has ever been into space lying, everyone who claims to have circumvented the globe in the sense we believe to have lied, and basically just dismiss everyone that has taught us anything as lying or lied to.
Come on people, when you look at it like that, what one really sounds like the fairy tale? Can you honestly put your hand on your heart, look yourself in the mirror and swear on a bible that the globe earth sounds more feasible? Honestly? And remember, you need to try and forget NASA and school books for this one.
When it comes down to it, all that anyone knows is what they are taught. Unless we take 10 minutes to lie down and actually question what we're told. I remember all my teachers taking an instant dislike to being questioned, and my sons teachers now seem to be the same. I don't pretend to KNOW anything, but I know what I believe, I have a strong grasp on my perceptions and I trust my own senses over anything the ITV News can show me.
I know its hard to admit that you may have been fooled, but I think we have. I was a round earther up to a few months ago. I would have laughed at the suggestion of a flat earth. But after looking at the arguments and 'evidence' from both sides, I can honestly say that I believe I was told one huge stinking lie about our world.
As I pointed out.Assuming a claim is "ridiculous" before evaluating it puts you at a risk of drawing conclusions from falsity. You may want to brush up on your logic, good sir.Except through the year ive been active here, you still keep ignoring the fact that all the flightpaths you use as examples of "shorter routes on a globe" to mystify globe earth actually exist. Its just more convenient to "forget" that defending your flat earth religion.
Flightpaths are STILL not a good argument for flat earth.
If your side of the argument is that I don't give a flying fuck about the FAQs then fine by me, you win. But that's not my argument.I didn't fail to read the FAQs, I failed to give a shit about the FAQs.Yes, I said that rather early on. Why are you fighting for my side of the argument here?
Sweetheart, you're the one who's failed to read here. That's why you made a thread to ask a question already addressed in the FAQ.I didn't fail to read the FAQs, I failed to give a shit about the FAQs.
Right. So your reasoning seems to be "it's unintuitive to me, therefore I will dismiss it without even reading up on the basics."Clearly we are unable to effectively communicate. Send someone who reads what I say.
I can't say I have much respect for that mindset.
Now, now. I was only kidding. As soon as I found this website I considered the idea. However I dismissed it as it is patently ridiculous and requires a counterculture-ist, conspiracy theorist (-ist) suspension of basic teachings in lieu of a cockamammie theory which has at best some circumstantial evidence.Oh believe me, I've evaluated it. Who hasn't. You know, little two year old, with some dinky ideas running through their head. "Hmm, what if the earth is flat? Nah, that's ridiculous."Ah, a wonderful piece of introspection! I'm glad you admitted your closed-mindedness so readily. You truly are on a path to elementary self-awareness! Keep it up!And don't call me good sir. We both know I'm not.Welp, you said it, not me.
Assuming a claim is "ridiculous" before evaluating it puts you at a risk of drawing conclusions from falsity. You may want to brush up on your logic, good sir.Oh believe me, I've evaluated it. Who hasn't. You know, little two year old, with some dinky ideas running through their head. "Hmm, what if the earth is flat? Nah, that's ridiculous." And don't call me good sir. We both know I'm not.
I never claimed flight plans prove the Earth is round. I simply pointed out that using the occasional odd flight plans to justify a ridiculous claim is preposterous.You do know that airlines schedule highly irregular routes to avoid going over large amounts of open ocean, right?Wow, what a convenient excuse!
"The Earth is round and flight times prove it... except when they don't... b-but there's a good reason for that, I-i swear!"
Absolutely fabulous.
You do know that airlines schedule highly irregular routes to avoid going over large amounts of open ocean, right?Got any summary? I don't have time for a two hour documentary.
Watch this video.
I literally only stumpled upon this theory a couple of days ago, I am now thoroughly convinced.
I ridiculed the concept like you, only clicking on other Youtube videos out of baked curiosity.
This is the best one I found to fully flesh out the concept.
Heres a comment I just posted on the video, you can try this yourself using Google Earth and see how ridiculous the flight path is. It makes no logical sense unless the globe is not real.
To the many sceptics ridiculing this theory, I was the same as you until a few days ago. However I just tried searching for flights (like he said in the video) between Buenos Aires and Wellington. The distance is said to be 6000 miles, and the range of the best commercial jets is now around 9000 miles according to Google. So why are all the quoted flights at least 22 hours long and have to fly north through the USA? I used Google Earth to visualise how ridiculous this would look. Makes no economic sense for the airlines.
https://www.expedia.co.nz/Flights-Search?trip=roundtrip&leg1=from:Wellington,%20New%20Zealand%20(WLG-Wellington%20Intl.),to:Buenos%20Aires,%20Argentina%20(EZE-Ministro%20Pistarini%20Intl.),departure:27/1/2016TANYT&leg2=from:Buenos%20Aires,%20Argentina%20(EZE-Ministro%20Pistarini%20Intl.),to:Wellington,%20New%20Zealand%20(WLG-Wellington%20Intl.),departure:3/2/2016TANYT&passengers=children:0,adults:1,seniors:0,infantinlap:N&options=cabinclass:economy,sortby:price&mode=search&paandi=true
Thats the link to the air bookings site I used (hopefully it works). Seriously you need to watch the whole video and try this yourself.
Got any summary? I don't have time for a two hour documentary.
Watch this video.
I literally only stumpled upon this theory a couple of days ago, I am now thoroughly convinced.
I ridiculed the concept like you, only clicking on other Youtube videos out of baked curiosity.
This is the best one I found to fully flesh out the concept.