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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 10:21:49 PM »

So your personal arrogance won over scientific evidence? I wish you all the best my 'open minded and free thinking' friend.

All due respect - anyone who has investigated the "Moon Landing" and still believes it actually occurred deserves the wrath that is my arrogance.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:44:07 PM »

Any modern university with the right equipment can proof you wrong on that on.

I can see for a 'Flat Earther' that the Moon landings would be difficult do digest. But where do we have the common nominator? Do you believe in John Glenn? Yuri Gagarin? The Wright Brothers?

And this is where my debate with you ends. I refuse to lower myself to the level of someone who actually believes NASA has landed on the moon despite the mountains of evidence that has proven otherwise.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:27:06 PM »

It's not right. You can't see molecules through a visual microscope. It's all electronic microscopes and data are bring processed through a computer before you see it. Just like any pictures you see on your computer.

If the Earth is flat with no curvatures, you would be able to send a powerful laser beam from the British west coast to the american east coast. But you can't. However, you can reflect a laser beam on the moon because there's a laser reflector up there.

Nasa never landed on the moon - thus no retroreflectors were planted on the moon - thus no laser pinging has occured - at least not in the way they have stated it has

You obviously believe Nasa landed on the moon as well...   Astonishing...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 08:51:04 PM »

Easy now..

Point is that I find it strange that you narrow your trust to observations only visible to the eye. Then you will have a very narrow view on the world. And you know what I meant, so no need to be rude.

Again - I doubt that you'll be able to see bacterias with a normal microscope, but then let's use x-rays or molecules as an example. You can't see them so do they exist? Where do you draw the line?


Earth curvature should be able to be seen with the naked eye given the measurements that are supposedly "factual". And it should be blatant. Yet there are dozens of examples easily accessible online proving the contrary.
 
If thousands of satellites are circling the globe it should be very easy to find a photograph of the planet that hasn't been photo shopped and/or cropped.
 
That being said you're trying to change the subject...    Regardless, you can still see molecules with the right microscopes. They have been proven to exist.

And I apologize for the idiot comment - your response seemed rather trolly...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 08:14:31 PM »

"Seeing is believing" ..!?

You don't see bacterias, so bacterias don't exist?

Not surprised by the lack of ingenuity in this question.

I have seen them under a microscope. So yeah - seeing is believing.

Idiotic rebuttals coming from the "pro-sphere" people, like MrAtlas' here seem to be frequent on these forums...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 11, 2016, 06:57:58 PM »
On what do you base your belief that the Earth is Flat ?

I'm so green to the FET - me and my gf just uncovering some of this info a few days ago. The more I look into this (watch documentaries, youtube vids, and read on the net) the more I'm starting to believe the earth is indeed flat.

I don't know enough to elaborately debate anything (yet), but I am now hooked into an investigation - I look at the sun and moon in an entirely new way.

So far the biggest reason I believe the earth may be flat is the lack of any photo that has not been photoshopped proving curvature. There is not a single photo not taken with a fish eye lens that shows curvature. Nothing... This is alarming to me.

Secondly - all the mathematical "theory" involving the heavenly bodies in "outer space" are just that - theories. All these formulas with big numbers just look nonsensical, and even listening to some "round earther" trying to calculate the physical locations of objects supposedly millions of miles away based on a formula that is based off a "theory" just seems assinine to me.  It's lunchtime - I will add more later ;)

Seems to me that you would be well served to look into how theory is defined for different uses.

You dismiss all of the theory that supports a round Earth but, as you have admitted, you support the flat Earth theory.  What, in your mind, makes the flat Earth theory any more valid than the theories that support a round Earth?  Is it simply because you don't know how to use the math behind the theories that support a round Earth?

Seeing is believing - show me a picture or a video (not photoshopped or taken with a fish-eye lens) that even displays curvature....

Oh... you can't.

I'm not going to waste my time with ridiculous formulas that are stated to be based on something that very well may not be true. Especially when considering that basic mathematics has already proven that curvature does not exist (at least not with the given proportions of the "spherical earth")

"Theory" is not "fact".

I never said the Earth being flat is indeed fact. I only stated I'm starting to believe it. Believing something that is unproven based off investigation, logic, and Occam's razor has never steered me wrong.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: The Ultimate Proof?
« on: January 08, 2016, 07:16:15 PM »
Sorry, but I'm still not convinced that the earth is flat. But I think that the discussions are both interesting and challenges your thinking :-)

I want to ask some of the flat earth believers if there's ANYTHING that could convince you that the earth is not flat? E.g. if you were invited into space to look for yourself or whatever. What would be 'the ultimate proof' for you that the earth is, in fact, not flat?

Let's just start with a video (that isn't taken with a fish-eye lens) or a picture (that hasn't been photoshopped) that even shows curvature on the earth, let alone proving it...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why do you believe the Earth is Flat ?
« on: January 08, 2016, 05:51:10 PM »
On what do you base your belief that the Earth is Flat ?

I'm so green to the FET - me and my gf just uncovering some of this info a few days ago. The more I look into this (watch documentaries, youtube vids, and read on the net) the more I'm starting to believe the earth is indeed flat.

I don't know enough to elaborately debate anything (yet), but I am now hooked into an investigation - I look at the sun and moon in an entirely new way.

So far the biggest reason I believe the earth may be flat is the lack of any photo that has not been photoshopped proving curvature. There is not a single photo not taken with a fish eye lens that shows curvature. Nothing... This is alarming to me.

Secondly - all the mathematical "theory" involving the heavenly bodies in "outer space" are just that - theories. All these formulas with big numbers just look nonsensical, and even listening to some "round earther" trying to calculate the physical locations of objects supposedly millions of miles away based on a formula that is based off a "theory" just seems assinine to me.  It's lunchtime - I will add more later ;)

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