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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Scope of Conspiracy Seems Implausible

« on: January 02, 2016, 03:15:53 AM »

Good day. This is my first post, and I came here because I ran into a flat-earther (what do you call yourselves?) in another corner of the web. He claimed to have a truth that the rest of us didn't, and when I asked him a few questions, he vanished. He truly was not a great representative of your community. So, I came here to ask my question in the hopes that I can get a legitimate answer for what I think is the biggest piece of the puzzle.

Apologies if this is covered somewhere else- I did a cursory check before I posted this. If it is, please feel free to redirect me.

Let's say that the science you're citing holds water. I cannot debate any of that, as I am not well versed in science. I was a history teacher- which is where my question derives from.

If I am reading this right, The entire theory hinges on a global conspiracy. The world's governments have known your truth for centuries, yet it is kept from us. The 'why' is much less relevant than the 'how.'

Human nature has demonstrated itself to be fickle and unreliable any number of times. Entire generations have been devastated by wars started over minor political, religious, and social ideologies. Governments of many global powers have been toppled time and again by coups and revolutions. (Russian, French, American Revolutions to name a few) With the ebb and flow of governmental control, how do you think it is possible for such a conspiracy to have been protected from the masses for so long? How is it possible that an overthrown government which has caused much malice with its populace- able to convince an incoming power to keep such a secret?

The mere scope of the conspiracy alone seems implausible. Far too much seems to rely on far too many people for there to have not been (by now) some sort of massive leak- a major player in the global community coming forth to decree that everything we know is wrong.

In the age where we are starting to turn an eye to privatized space flights, why would these companies not be shut down immediately by governments for fear of exposure of such a secret? Instead of having them killed off, private companies seeking to go to space for commercial or tourist purposes are flourishing.

It is for THIS reason that I remain skeptical of the idea that the earth is a flat plane. There might be others- again if I were of a scientific mind- but I am not, so I focus on what I know, and I know that throughout the course of history millions of people have been killed simply for the name by which they call God...yet there is a global political conspiracy to hide the shape of the very planet these problems exist on?

I just have yet to be convinced.

Thank you.

The whole world truth is hidden from the masses. If you were part of a ruling minority then everything must be done in secret to keep in power. Once you show your hand you lose the control base. The statement 'Everything you know is wrong' is true because the truth has been hidden, continues to be hidden with lies that are repeatedly pushed at the general public through the media which are controlled by the 'elite'. This goes for the military, the 'health' profession and the armed forces. The earth is governed by the witches from 10,000 years ago by forming religions. The earth's population is controlled by the power behind the apparent power. The witches [poisoners] control the cabals, who control the cartels, who control the banks, who control the governments, who control the goyim. The goyim are the human slave work units, the so called people. So when you doubt that a global conspiracy exists you are playing into the hands of the hidden power. Traditional teaching of history is written by the hidden powers, the winners of wars that were engineered by the hidden powers. New science is also a form of religion unless everything stated as true is questioned. In my opinion, there is no room for belief, make your own mind up based on real evidence that is thoroughly researched personally. In my experience 95% of the information on the internet is misinformation created by the hidden powers. We are deep in the rabbit hole and need to dig our way back out.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why ship masts appear to sink over the horizon

« on: January 02, 2016, 02:49:59 AM »

Relativity is based on Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism, so you can start by proving that magnetism, electricity, and light don't exist.

Einstein made the very same mistake:

Einstein, 1905:

"The principle of the constancy of the velocity of light is of course contained in Maxwell's equations”

But those are not Maxwell's equations at all; on the contrary, they are the Heaviside-Lorentz equations:



In fact, NdG Tyson shows the same ignorance on the subject:





(from the Cosmos series)

HERE ARE THE REAL ETHER MAXWELL'S EQUATIONS:



THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE, AND NOT CONSTANT.

The Speed of Light

http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers-Mechanics%20/%20Electrodynamics/Download/5373


http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/030706.htm

(step by step demonstration how the set of Maxwell's original equations was censored/modified)

The much-reduced Heaviside-Gibbs-Hertz limited version of Maxwell's theory, with the added Lorentz symmetrization and arbitrary discarding of all asymmetrical Maxwellian systems, has since been taught as "Maxwell's theory". It is Heaviside's equations and Heaviside's notations, as further limited by Lorentz.

In 1892 Lorentz added the coup de grace to even this much-reduced Heaviside vector theory with simple equations and much fewer potentials. Lorentz arbitrarily symmetrized the equations to make them simpler yet, so that closed algebraic solutions could usually be found and one would not have to use numerical methods so widely. He did it merely to simplify the equations to NEW equations having much easier solutions! That he changed the potentials was considered of no consequence, so long as no NET translation force field emerged (even though two new force fields were arbitrarily introduced).



http://www.cheniere.org/articles/Deliberate%20Discard.htm

(superb documentation on the reasons why Maxwell's original set of equations was deliberately eliminated from textbooks)

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1639521#msg1639521


unless you debunk relativity

This has to be a joke, right?

There is no such thing as the theory of relativity:

http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=2715.msg80203#msg80203

I agree with the statement "There is no such thing as the theory of relativity".  Einstein was an industry shill disinformation mill, freemason and illuminati.
Have a look at the website   http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-intro.asp
It describes a known universe that rules out gravity and employs electromagnetic radiation pressure to explain how the universe works without the theory of gravity which doesn't need 'dark matter' to shore relativity theory up. The only problem I have with the horizon flat earth theory is that light is assumed to travel in a straight line. If the spherical earth theory which orbits the sun, which travels in the outer spiral arm of the milky way, which travels around galactic centre, which travels around the centre of the known universe is true, then light cannot travel in a straight line if everything is moving independently of everything else. Light travelling from point A to Point B will not arrive in a straight line if everything has moved from the initial point. If the established theory of light is used, then it can only travel in multiple curves, it cannot travel in a straight line. That is of course if the portrayed theory of light is correct or understood. I feel that the arguments for a flat earth outweigh the arguments for a spherical earth at this point.