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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why not send a drone to fly over Antarctica?

« on: April 26, 2015, 10:01:37 PM »

Ok, I will share a few thoughts on this...

As I see it: According to Flat Earth Theory..Antarctica is a mysterious out of bounds region. It represents some kind of edge or barrier to the known world.

This region has been lied about by worldly powers in a massive deception. The worldly powers have banned travel there, banned fly overs etc and it is in any case a difficult environment to reach and survive in.

Those who aim to deceive the public often employ "controlled opposition" groups and shills to derail both productive debates AND useful actions that would destroy the deception.

So (whether difficult or not) the obvious course of action in resolving the question of Antarctica is to explore the region, to observe it and make records thereof to share with key people in the population as a prelude to mass awakening regarding the truth of the matter.

In such a case we have: human exploration, telescopes etc as suggested by Mostlyharmless and remote exploration via technology eg a remote controlled flier or balloon.

None of these options should be discounted. In fact each suggestion should be worked on and planned. Difficult goals should be broken up into smaller more achievable goals and worked on bit by bit.

So, talking of controlled opposition, would they be encouraging explorations like this or discouraging them?

I am not implying that everyone dismissing the project on this Forum are controlled opposition. However in contemplating scenarios discussed above (eg a massive hundreds of years old deception) it seems there is likely to be a lot of 'conditioning' in people discouraging them from actually making attempts to explore the edges. That conditioning may take the form of discouraging beliefs about the impossibility or great difficulty of such exploration projects. Therefore those who find themselves initially discouraging such exploration should look closely at the hidden inner causes of such a position and then adjust their position as appropriate.

Apart from the hypothetical controlled opposition and apart from disempowering conditioning there may also be an ego based fear-a fear of actually being proved wrong after all. We should not be attached to our beliefs no matter how long we have held them, or how much effort we have put into promoting them. We should be loyal to truth.

The surest way to failure is to not even try. So lets look again at Pongo's useful post above:
http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=2676.msg66877#msg66877
which outlines some of the steps needed and build from there.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why not send a drone to fly over Antarctica?

« on: April 25, 2015, 06:23:52 AM »

So there is a project up and running on a sister site? Can you post a link to the project please?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why not send a drone to fly over Antarctica?

« on: April 17, 2015, 06:22:57 AM »

Hi Irush, the laser method is interesting definitely. It might be cheaper as you say and better in other ways as well compared to the drone idea.

There is still the curiosity though of what is beyond the theorised ice circle said to encircle the flat earth. The drone method could provide some data on that.

As jroa indicates the technical range of affordable drones may be a major issue. I've had a look on wiki and for First Person View
 radio-controlled flyers: "The current round-trip distance record for an FPV aircraft is 68.9 miles (horizontal distance). Altitudes of up to 33,103 meters above ground (launch site) level have also been achieved, with a mix of weather balloon and RC glider equipment used"

I do not know how thick the ice wall is supposed to be or the dimensions that the conventional Antarctica is supposed to have as of yet, although I know it is large.

The figures above for FPV may be inadequate(?) but is FPV necessary? I've read a few posts on this site where there are people on both sides of the argument who are good with geometry...how about some kind of weather balloon? What height would be needed to provide useful photographs?

Even if the photo-views could not extend far enough to show what is beyond the ice etc they still might be able to verify or refute some of the conventional distances between science stations and geographic features.

Let's say hypothetically that a trusted member of admin set up a research fund, I would be tempted to put in a few hundred dollars-and I am not very financially well off plus have a wide range of other interests competing for my time and resources.. surely there are a few on this forum much more dedicated to these issues than me who would consider donating to an admin fund for this project? (or other projects?)

Ben, are you based south? In any case you can help by researching some potential launch locations. The team ideally would have a few mature members from both the Round and Flat groups.

Anyway just a few initial thoughts to see if the plan has any viability, cheers.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why not send a drone to fly over Antarctica?

« on: April 16, 2015, 10:38:16 PM »

Just exploring the idea at this stage. I wasn't thinking of a super expensive military style drone. I think there are commercially available drones, radio controlled planes and helicopters for a few hundred dollars.

The question that comes up for me is what range/altitude would be necessary to prove something either way or at least make some kind of advance in knowledge.

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Flat Earth Theory / Why not send a drone to fly over Antarctica?

« on: April 16, 2015, 08:33:31 PM »

Hi everyone, I am fascinated by the flat earth idea and what may be beyond Antarctica in this this world view.

Why not send a drone southwards from near the edges of Antarctica? It could be fitted with a camera etc. Wouldn't that settle things in some way?