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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down

« on: March 21, 2015, 09:09:13 AM »

Hello Eric, welcome to the FES. As you can probably already see, we have quite a few people who are very passionate about the Flat Earth subject here. Nonetheless, any disagreements we may have aside, I hope you enjoy your stay here.

I would like to clarify that we have no links to the Flat Earth Society of Canada, and any such accusations should be backed with ample evidence rather than restating the non-point over and over. IFERS is generally used as the official name (as printed in certificates and press releases), while FES is the everyday name used for ease of reference. Note that neither of those are FESoC, which for some reason you insist on branding FES. The only thing you've managed to "expose" so far is that you disagree with us (which is fine), and that you're willing to lower yourself to slander to exclaim it (which is not fine).

That said, this society operates under the principles of volunteer contribution and general consensus. If you want to see our FAQ changed, convince our members that your views are correct. If you establish yourself here, I'll happily grant you edit access to our Wiki, and you'll be able to shape it together with us. Notably, this would require you to act at the very least in a neutral manner. You may want to forget your "full administrative control" idea for a few years - we don't just hand that out to strangers.

If you want to make contributions to the Flat Earth model, you've found the right place. Now you just need to actually start contributing and convincing people that what you have to say is true. If that's not fine by you, I expect most our members (other than Thork) will consider you largely irrelevant.

The FESC changed its name to the FES a year after it started.  The FES is Ferrari's FES, the only FES that has ever existed.  One of your "Zetetic Council" members dared to say he'd never heard of Leo Ferrari even though he was the sworn enemy of the IFERS you claim to be.  I'm not interested in climbing up your hierarchy trying to prove to you that the Earth isn't constantly rising and gravity doesn't exist.  If that's the kind of caliber discussion I have to have with fellow supposed flat Earthers, I'll politely bow out and let you discredit yourselves with that non-sense.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down

« on: March 21, 2015, 09:03:59 AM »

Eric, do you have a better model for a flat Earth? If so, stop with the petty insults and post the damn thing. We are mostly concerned with debating here, not playground drama.

Personally, I'd love to hear an alternate flat Earth model that holds up to more scrutiny than ours. Although I'd imagine it would be hard to find one.

Also, your forum seems suspiciously barren.

I've written an entire book on it, and yes the flat Earth model has no need to account for gravity as it does NOT exist:  http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/02/flat-earth-conspiracy-challenge.html  And I'd rather have a "barren" genuine forum than a lively controlled opposition forum full of shills like you've got here, thanks.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down

« on: March 21, 2015, 08:14:54 AM »

Hello everyone, thanks to Thork and Dionysios for the support and encouragement!  Thanks for sharing my article and for your nomination in the other thread as "Flat Earth Messiah" or "Flat Earth President."     I certainly want as little in-fighting between us few flat Earthers as possible, but at the same time I will always speak my mind and fight facts/evidence against unfounded opinions anywhere I find them, even in the flat Earth community.  Both of these split flat Earth societies claim to be from the Shenton/Johnson lineage, yet strangely neither society kept their namesake of IFERS, The International Flat Earth Research Society.  Even more strange is that both societies maintain easily disproven false flat Earth arguments in your shared FAQ such as the Earth constantly rising to account for gravity.  Many people on your forums display the behavior of paid agents and instead of being banned, it appears many are promoted to moderators.  Someone from this "Zetetic Council" commented on my article that they'd never heard of Leo Ferrari, even though he was Johnson's sworn enemy.  I replied:

For the Anonymous usurper of the "Zetetic" title, you are NOT the IFERS, you are the FES. These two organizations have existed simultaneously feuding for decades as I exposed in the article. After Johnson's house was burned down, he kept IFERS going until his death shortly after. Since then Ferrari's FES has been the sole FE organization in existence. Your FES has absolutely no legitimate claim to be "descended" from Shenton, Johnson et al., as you share the same name and modus operandi of their sworn enemy! If you were a continuation of the IFERS, you would have been called IFERS all these years, not FES. You are FES because you are the successors to Ferrari's FES. You claim the Earth is constantly accelerating upwards and put out other false-arguments to (as Johnson put it) "muddy the waters of truth." He called the FES "an enemy of the flat Earth work, yet you use the same name, false-arguments and satire that characterized the FES under Ferrari's presidency. You claim to be "descended" from genuine flat Earthers, but your farcical society's title, arguments and M.O. are identical to the flat Earth enemy's. Now that I'm exposing you, however, you want to claim that you ARE the "International Flat Earth Research Society!?" That's rich. You are the FES, the controlled opposition, the long-standing enemy of the IFERS, trying to assimilate the work of genuine flat Earther's into that Borg-like honey-pot operation you're running over there. I bet "Shenton" isn't even Daniel's real surname, probably just a fake name to muddy the waters further and subconsciously associate the FES with Shenton's old legitimate IFERS. The supposed "new" society split in two you're claiming is a joke. You still have the same name, logo, forum, FAQ, and your site admits you've recently just "reunited with your sister society," anyway so you're about as different from each other as someone with multiple personality disorder, excuse me, disassociate identity disorder, because you DID just have the audacity to claim descendency from IFERS, and claim not to even know who Leo Ferrari is!? The sworn enemy of genuine flat-Earthers, whose exact name and arguments you still use to this day, and you want to claim you've never even heard of him!? Your trolling days are over FES! Consider yourself exposed. Everyone who wants to be part of the genuine IFERS feel free to join, but anyone "muddying the waters of truth" with the same old FES controlled opposition bullshit will be banned. Only genuine flat Earthers and people interested in learning will be accepted:

http://ifers.boards.net

Just to set the record straight, in the other "Flat Earth Messiah" thread, "Tom Bishop" keeps going on and on about how I believe in and promote the reptilian alien non-sense.  How did you come to that conclusion Tom when I constantly write about the alien hoax/deception, expose David Icke's reptilian crap, and have never written a single thing promoting or saying I believe in that reptilian alien bullshit you keep accusing me of. 

I am honored that I would be considered for president of the Flat Earth Society, though I am already president of the International Flat Earth Research Society.  I would be willing to integrate somehow, but I doubt your FES would be willing to meet my demands which would include changing your name to IFERS, updating your FAQ with real answers, the caliber of which are present at IFERS, and giving me full administrative control of the forum and all material.  I'm sure that is beyond what you're willing to entrust me with, so until/if that day comes I will continue my lone crusade of continuing the genuine IFERS independently where I can maintain its integrity true to the vision of the Zetetics of yesteryear who would laugh at things like the Earth constantly rising to account for gravity.  Peace