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Flat Earth Community / Re: Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 08:25:10 PM »

No, I was completely serious, but I wasn't expecting you to donate. It's just that many people come here suggesting that we go to space and get pictures of the Earth and whatnot, not knowing what that entails. It's a very serious endeavor, and not many of us have that kind of money to blow on a project of that magnitude.

UA is Universal Acceleration. This pretty much makes space travel and satellites impossible. Now some of us believe that satelittes are actually up there, but not at the official given altitudes. We call these "stratellites", or sometimes "pseudollites".

Cool. Is there anywhere I can read up about UA?
Ever considered giving Mr Branson a ring and asking for free rides on virgin galactic? Although it seems ever more doubtful that the project (or the spacecraft for that matter) will ever get off the ground.

We have an entire wiki dedicated to Flat Earth Theory. You should really read most of it before posting.
Here's the article on Universal Acceleration: http://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration

Also, Virgin Galactic is a money laundering scheme.  Your suggestion is not helpful.

mea culpa

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 08:16:32 PM »

No, I was completely serious, but I wasn't expecting you to donate. It's just that many people come here suggesting that we go to space and get pictures of the Earth and whatnot, not knowing what that entails. It's a very serious endeavor, and not many of us have that kind of money to blow on a project of that magnitude.

UA is Universal Acceleration. This pretty much makes space travel and satellites impossible. Now some of us believe that satelittes are actually up there, but not at the official given altitudes. We call these "stratellites", or sometimes "pseudollites".

Cool. Is there anywhere I can read up about UA?
Ever considered giving Mr Branson a ring and asking for free rides on virgin galactic? Although it seems ever more doubtful that the project (or the spacecraft for that matter) will ever get off the ground.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 08:12:57 PM »

Ugh, this website. It literally just deleted an entire essay-length post I had written. To be honest, I probably pressed something wrong, but either way I have to write the whole thing out again.

So, the night shadow experiment. Hmmm, I really should have taken a bit more time to think up of a better-sounding name for that.

Anyway, another link for your perusal:



The main point here is not the aircraft, but the shadow of night as it engulfs the earth. Compare it to this link:

http://wiki.tfes.org/File:SunAnimation.gif

I haven't analysed it closely, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 'night shadows' don't correlate - i.e. the shadow of night in clip 1 doesn't go over the same countries at the same time as it does in animation 2.

So, if any FET'ers ever find themselves in various foreign countries at the same time, surely it might be a thought to get on the phone/email/mind-link [delete as applicable] to each other and see the time difference between when night arrives in one country compared to when it does in another. Then, it would be easy enough to see which model it fits in with. Obviously, the more people involved the more accurate it becomes.

Simples (hopefully!)

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 07:50:41 PM »

Once we find a way to counter UA and escape the flatmosphere, we'll let you know.


Of course we'll need money to do this, so if you're willing to donate to this cause then that would be great.

Should I bother asking what UA and the flatmosphere are, or should I not get myself into it?

Also, I probably should have mentioned - even though I'm suggesting all these ideas, I'm kind of good not to donate. Sorry. Just not much money to spare at the moment. Plus I don't know anyone here.

But I reckon that wasn't a serious comment about donating anyway.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »

Okay, so: The lego man experiment.

First things first, I saw this clip on youtube:
There are multiple moments when you can see curvature of the earth fairly clearly, and the equipment looks pretty low tech. So I found this article ( http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/teens-send-lego-man-into-near-space-20120128-1qn02.html ) which says that the overall cost was about $C400 (I don't know where you are, but that's about £226 where I live). Which may be kind of steep in terms of cost, but certainly doable and not anywhere near satellite- or trip-into-space-steep. And then if you did this kind of thing yourself, and it got high enough, you'd have your own clear proof either way.

Although, I'm sure people would manage to argue about it afterwards anyway....

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Flat Earth Community / Possible ways to (dis)prove FET?....

« on: November 17, 2014, 07:35:49 PM »

So, I've been thinking a bit about FET, and it seems to me as if it has become a topic that is almost impossible to resolve. Any sort of earth-based abstract experimental evidence, like the Bedford Canal experiment or ships sinking below the horizon, is always highly debatable. Any sort of definitive proof would only really come from pictures of earth from space or going up there and seeing it for yourself.

However, any sort pictures from space or first hand accounts (from astronauts and the like) will have inevitably come through government bodies or other institutions, and so FET'ers will never accept them (on the basis that the evidence could have been tampered with or even fabricated altogether). However, I don't see anyone in TFES sending up their own satellite or going into space themselves anytime soon, so any sort of direct unsourced evidence that couldn't have been altered for the FET'ers to use seems unlikely to come about. So, a seemingly intractable dilemma then....

Well, I was just pontificating, and thought of two possible experiments that wouldn't seem too tricky to do which might help. I have dubbed them:

1) The lego man Experiment

2) The night shadow experiment

They might take a bit of explaining, so I'll go through them in later posts. It is probably also worth mentioning that I am far from an expert on this topic, so feel free to tell me if I'm spouting complete nonsense 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How many people are in on the conspiracy?

« on: November 16, 2014, 07:21:40 PM »

5)  In the future, please only bring up one point that you wish to discuss at a time.  Threads with multiple questions and answers can get confusing quickly.  You will also get more detailed answers when people only have to answer one at a time.

Sorry about that. I've got a few more questions to ask. Should I start a new thread or post them on this one?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How many people are in on the conspiracy?

« on: November 16, 2014, 07:20:28 PM »

1) So all the instruments have been built so that they lie to the pilots, while autopilot circles the plane around? And none of the literally millions of pilots ever wondered why their plane kept banking when the autopilot said it was flying in a straight line? Because you can feel when a plane turns.

2) How do satellite pictures work?

3) But I don't get why the GPS companies would have talked about satellites in the first place. Surely it would have been easier to just say they were using weather balloons or ground signals, instead of lying about satellites and adding in a load of extra people and complication and possible whistle blowers into the conspiracy. Because at this point, anyone whose job is to do with monitoring the GPS satellites or anything will know that they don't really exist.

4) Again, why would phone companies make up the satellite story in the first place? It just adds so much more complication to the whole conspiracy.

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Flat Earth Community / How many people are in on the conspiracy?

« on: November 15, 2014, 06:42:03 PM »

I was just wondering how many people you think are in on the conspiracy? I've looked at the wiki, but it doesn't seem to give any figures. Just thinking about it though, you'd have:

1) All the pilots in the world (according to another thread, they are all paid to 'circle around a bit' to make up for the quicker journeys a flat earth would provide) - there are at least 800,000 pilots in the US alone, and there are thus probably at least over a million in the world. And none have ever said anything?

2) Every space agency that has claimed to have launched something into space. Because either they're lying, or they've seen the earth from a satellite/shuttle etc and have been taken in by the conspiracy. Why would countries like N Korea want to be part of the conspiracy. Surely it would be a massive propaganda coup to give evidence that the US has been lying for decades.

3) GPS companies. So how does GPS work then?

4) Phone companies.

5) probably more that I haven't thought of yet

And why hasn't this site been shut down, if the conspiracy has the power to successfully silence so many people?

Thanks in advance for the answers, and sorry for the length