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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 20, 2014, 04:18:23 AM »
I highly doubt that any country would use a nuke again. We all know the outcome of a nuclear explosion and I would be willing to bet that those in power are smart enough to know how tegu would be treated if they ever did use a nuke. The idea of a country using nukes is a little boys dream of power and a nationalist mentality. Politically, nukes are a bad idea. If someone in power knew they would loose it all with a nuke, they wouldn't risk it. Especially not America.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 20, 2014, 03:45:04 AM »
The reality is that there will never be another large war with a developed nation. Too many nations with nuclear bombs that are more willing to turn themselves and others into smoking craters before giving up any land. Conventional weapons will only ever be used against countries that probably couldn't defend against any technology past the Cold War and that have no nuclear weaponry. Lockheed should just manufacture updated F-16s, rather than mugging the government for more money. Any country the F-22 and F-35 is useful against would never have a F-22 or F-35 used against them.
What about the developed European nations vs Russia? If they step in to defend the Ukraine wouldn't that be developed nations against each other. And if China joins Russia a saints Europe? They both stand to gain geopolitical advantage over the EU in a war and have already been doing joint naval maneuvers. Russia has the land and China's got the people. Both are fully capable of standing up and, frankly, I believe Russia has a slight air advantage over the US, although both sides have plenty of surface to air weapons, putting a fight for the air a little off to the side.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:58:05 AM »
The "cannon" on it literally makes up the plane itself. And no, most modern tanks would fall to it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 16, 2014, 04:13:25 AM »
Woah! Don't hate on the A-10. It's still useful. Say you want to destroy everything in a certain direction or throw a lot of depleted uranium through a Chinese tank really fast. That's what you have the warthog for.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 16, 2014, 03:59:30 AM »
That's pretty cool them, my favorite kind of airplane. Actually have a couple 30mm dummy rounds from the Gatling gun on it. I know someone who built dies to load dummy rounds and ended getting some for Christmas. Even spent some time at range 1 alpha in camp Atterberry right next to a range that they were using for live fire A-10 training.

I heard from some of my AF friends that the missions they were being sent on we not actually feasible for the A-10 to handle like anti personnel missions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 16, 2014, 03:48:46 AM »
Airplanes are a lot more durable than I feel you think they are.

They're actually frighteningly fragile, especially large military and commercial airplanes. Landing a 777 on a low grade runway will result in an inop 777.


I admit I did not research this and it was probably wrong, but speaking of military aircraft, one can't help but admire the durability of the A-10 Thunderbolt, even though the AF wants to phase them out.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 16, 2014, 02:54:30 AM »
I agree it would be difficult, but not possible. Camp netting does a really good job of hiding this sort of stuff too. Patching up a runway would be a breeze and one or two repairmen could fix any damage the landing gear may get. Airplanes are a lot more durable than I feel you think they are.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 10:31:16 PM »
My grass runway for Cessna style aircraft. 2/3 of it at least. Having trouble adding picture on my ipod.

Most runways left from ww2 in the Indian ocean area on small islands are asphalt or concrete. Landing a 777 would be like landing a bomber with a bigger wingspan.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 10:10:21 PM »
Your claims? Is "no" a claim?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:54:26 PM »
We have found the anti potato! Holy holy is the spud thy holy!! Someone go get the Pam!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:43:57 PM »
The anti potato clouds your thoughts. Yes they do. You don't even have to land small airplanes at an official airport. I landed one in my backyard once. It's just a lot bumpier.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:39:18 PM »
It costs a lot, but people use it to refuel airplanes on cross country (multiple stop) flights when they land at unmanned airports in desolate areas.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:25:24 PM »
To complete the act of terror I speak of, spotting the airplane means nothing, even over India, shooting it down would kill at least dozens from the debris. I think you overestimate the ability if a military to identify the airplane and shoot is down in the time it would take to reach target. Repairs on landing gear is easy, many a days or two of work. Fuel is easy to get. I can drive 5 miles to my nearby airport and buy 200 gallons. People do it all the time (my friend works there). With some time, that 777 could be back in the air and be bound for India, Thailand, or Dubai. As for spotting it, idk where you are, but under the jet stream, dozens of flights go overhead each day, you stop noticing it after a whole. After two months, people won't be on high alert for a 777, you can't stay watching forever...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 08:53:10 PM »
The US and friends can't track the thousands of airplanes in the air, much less the 1188 777s, all nearly identical, at the same tine for the months if not years that potential terrorists could hide this airplane until they use it. Reader detects airplanes, it doesn't segregate. You would have to check each airplane, scramble fighters (quicker said than done) attempt communication, receive clearance to fire, find a safe place to shoot the airplane down over, all before it hits something. It is a needle in a haystack, especially if it were done at night.

Boeing 777s can travel 1164 Maurice miles with a full capacity of passengers, London to Hong Kong. They could strike anywhere in Africa, Europe, Asia, the Middle East, or America with range like that.
the attack would be more strategic in the Middle East, Asia, or even Europe.



This is what would happen if MH370 appeared anywhere. They would shoot it down before it could become a threat. I don't think there's a single strategic target in the world that could be reached by a Boeing 777. This is also assuming crazy things, like the landing of the plane at a remote air strip (which likely damaged the landing gear), its refueling and repainting, etc.

This is because we don't have mechanics to fix stiff like this, right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 07:37:11 PM »
Your first example was a mistake. A unit fired upon by a known enemy has the ability to defend itself without requesting permission. A 777 wouldn't open fire, it would be crashed. The airbus got in the way of a defense move.

The second example was by the Russians, idiots at best, and don't have the same kind of chain of command as us nor the same accountability demand from their people since their people probably weren't notified due to press censorship.

I'm not denying we wouldn't see the airplane. We just are not obligated by protocol to communicate with an airplane entering airspace over the US. Also, I don't even predict the attack occurring here. I have made the point several times that the attack would be more strategic in the Middle East, Asia, or even Europe.

We wouldn't shoot down a passenger airplane unless we were sure that it posed a threat. An airplane in the scenario I outlined wouldn't pose a threat until it actually hit its target, giving a defense entity no time to prevent it!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 05:40:39 PM »
A terrorist ya someone who attempts to inflict terror. Since ghost isn't well known, if he shot down an airplane, he would be labeled a terrorist. Same with the fort hood guy, the people in the mall in Kenya, and the people in the article.
Who is honestly going to shoot down a 777 that May or may not have passengers?
Who indeed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents
Ok, you and what army will identify this airplane, travel to the right location, then use your combined small arms power (or expensive missiles) to take down the airplane in the time it takes to take the airplane off and fly it to the area of the terrorist attack. All of the above incidents were either by chance, or a group attacking an airplane they had known was going to be somewhere at a certain time. It could be on its way now and you wouldn't hear of it until after the incident happened. By then, I have calculated that you will be pretty late to pull off your vigilante plans.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 12:12:12 PM »
Exactly. Plus, the military is very involved in politics, the chain of command involves the president who could take a lot of flack (pardon the pun) for shooting down such an airplane. Before doing this, someone up at the DOD, pentagon, or White House would have to approve an attack on an airplane that is not clearly a threat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 15, 2014, 02:30:04 AM »
But no permission is required for nonmilitant aircraft to enter US airspace unless specifically requested, which, due to the large number of flights entering the US is not feasible to check each one. Why do you believe that the terrorists would attack the US? We hardly lead the running for most acts if terror. Britain, France, the Middle East, and even parts of Africa are ahead of us. Also 777s have enough fuel capacity oh go at least halfway around the world without stopping. And in regard to Hiroshima, politicians would NEVER attack an aircraft that might have civilians on it because of the effect it may have in their career. Same with continued use of nukes with disregard to building them, thats ok. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 14, 2014, 08:59:11 PM »
America would never shoot on passenger airplane. Plus, looking at the area it is in, America is not even an ideal target. North of the Indian Ocean, India has more than twice the population density and less of a chance to prevent an attack. Northwest is the middle  eastern oilfields, another great target. Even crashing it into the Ukraine or Russia to cause more unrest could be a possibility. Not to mention china...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« on: April 14, 2014, 08:11:18 PM »
I was assuming you didn't. Although i it came across that you did, the NSA could detain you and the potato god would be rid of another enemy.

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