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But you are still not accounting for the issue about the shape of the earth.  Since you agree the Earth is not set on a foundation, but is detached, thus whether floating or accelerating it still would take the shape of every other large mass and be a globe.  Blow a flat bubble and prove me wrong.

I’m not accounting for or agreeing with anything. I only told you what you’ll find in the wiki, not what I think about it, nor whether I’ll blow any bubbles. Read a few threads as well as the FAQ and you’ll get a better feel for this place and the characters who may be found, as well as the opinions voiced and argued over. Four days since you joined is not enough to understand what sort of forum this is. Good luck!
You are making false assumptions.  I have debated this issue for years, on this and other forums.  I only recently signed up AGAIN with a new user name.  So, you take no position on the shape of the Earth.  :)  We all know this entire 'flat Earth' nonsense is a joke.  Obviously, the Earth could not be constantly accelerating because eventually the planet would achieve the speed of light.  To hide this fact, the Wiki suggests meaningless formulae in lieu of explanation.
I suggest you focus on the argument and leave the ad hominems alone.

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...the Earth is not stationary but travelling upwards at by now immense speed, since it is claimed Earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8 ms-2. Apparently everything else we see - sun, moon and stars - is also accelerating at the same rate with the Earth. This is called Universal Acceleration and is this site’s explanation of what the rest of the world calls gravity.
If everything is accelerating at the same speed and direction then this 'acceleration' would not be discernible, just like when you are traveling in an airplane at 400 mph along with the plates, napkins, and chairs.  There is no sense of motion, thus there would be no 'force' and you would still have to explain gravity.    BTW, 'up' would have no meaning. 

But you are still not accounting for the issue about the shape of the earth.  Since you agree the Earth is not set on a foundation, but is detached, thus whether floating or accelerating it still would take the shape of every other large mass and be a globe.  Blow a flat bubble and prove me wrong.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Let's start with "Burden of Proof"
« on: December 08, 2020, 01:12:17 AM »
@james38

Models are meta-scientific tools.  They are not for explanation or understanding.
I disagree.  The model of a spherical Earth, along with all the other planets, and all liquids forming into spheres when floating, is a great model for understanding and explaining, and has been for about 2000 years.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why the round earth hoax?
« on: December 08, 2020, 12:38:30 AM »

Has anyone explained the purpose of saying the earth is round if it's really flat. What is achieved by perpetuating the lie?

It's all a great conspiracy so governments all over the world can continue to fund all kinds of different  endeavors and keep the cash coming in or something like that.
This standard answer of the flat Earthers is lame, exceedingly so.  In the first place, there is no explanation for WHY lying/conspiring about the Earth being round would bring in much cash.  Certainly the claim the Earth is flat has not raised much money.  Why would a preposterous conspiracy that also includes all governments and all explorers and travelers, all sailors who have circumnavigated the Earth, from Magellan until today, would also have to be 'in on it.'  There have been hundreds of thousands of such circumnavigations.  Somehow the secret has been kept.  :D

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Assuming the Earth is suspended in space, or 'floating,' it would be the only flat or disc shaped celestial body in the universe of substantial size.  Why is our Earth the exception?  Whether blowing a bubble, or observing a drop of water, or watching a lava lamp, we find that all liquids, and gasses, including planets while still molten, and stars, form into ball shapes.  When someone can demonstrate they can blow a flat bubble, FE theory will have advanced beyond the farcically ridiculous.

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Does the Earth rest on a solid foundation or does it float in space?

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