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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Prove to me the Earth is flat
« on: February 27, 2018, 12:13:39 AM »
Makes sense to me.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Prove to me the Earth is flat
« on: February 26, 2018, 10:12:49 PM »
They may reason that there's too much fog, dust and particulate in the air to be able to see that far, and the ice wall is too short to see at that great a distance. All about perspective. 
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax
« on: February 26, 2018, 05:13:58 AM »
How do meteors get past the Dome? What keeps it clean of space debris? 
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is the Earth not round
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:36:13 AM »
Haha! Awesome. Thanks for sharing. 
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax
« on: February 25, 2018, 10:01:54 PM »
I've seen a couple satellites zooming overhead with my naked eye before. If those weren't satellites, then they must have been alien space-ships!
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is the Moon Flat?
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:55:56 PM »I have seen on the planets page of TFES that you believe that the earth is not a planet since it is flat. The moon is also not defined as a planet, but rather a satellite. Does this mean that the Moon is Flat?No. To say that planets are round is not the same as to say that only planets are round.what with Flat-Earthers not believing in gravity and such.Please read the FAQ and browse around the Wiki. It is unwise to presume.
Just read the physics/cosmology part of the FAQ in regards to gravity. Seems like the main theory is that gravity doesn't exist; the flat-earth is accelerating upwards at 32 feet per second, being pushed by "aetheric wind". But I see your point; the second theory is that the flat earth is an infinite plane sitting on the floor of the universe, in which gravity works the same way as in a round Earth model....somehow, lol. Not sure why all the planets and stars don't come crashing down on top of us then.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is the Earth not round
« on: February 25, 2018, 08:52:21 PM »
Show something where the observer is on the night side and the moon is pointing AWAY from the earth.
I think this may be an impossible task, because the moon's rotation is synchornized with Earth's rotation in such a manner that only one side of the moon is visible to us on Earth at any given moment. Which, yes, is REALLY weird. The odds of the moon's rotation being THAT precisely synchronized with Earth's rotation are ASTRONOMICAL. I personally think, as crazy as it may sound, that this is because the moon was engineered. Some more supporting evidence for that theory can be found by observing the craters on the moon; they all seem to be roughly the same depth. Which again, is pretty weird....unless of course the moon is some kind of a structure with a dense material just under the surface. I haven't had the chance to read it yet, but someone else had the same theory and wrote a book about it entitled "Who Built the Moon?" by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler. No; I don't think humans built the moon; that's ridiculous seeing as the moon has been around since at least Biblical times, (if I recall correctly, there was a piece of scripture that started something like "before the time of the moon...") I'm pretty sure the moon was engineered, and then brought here by extraterrestrial entities. ....Yep...I know how crazy that sounds, but it would explain a lot, including why we never see the dark side of the moon...possibly because there may be technological bases stationed on the far side of the moon. But yeah...I could go on and on about the moon and all the weird things about it; the subject greatly fascinates me.
If it were a coincidence, then it would certainly be weird. However, it isn't. The reason the rotation of the Moon has ceased relative to the Earth is gravity. It's exactly the same effect that causes tides on Earth. The Earth is much more massive than the Moon, and hence has more effect on it than it does on us.
It's yet more evidence for the reality of gravity.
Interesting. Unless I'm mistaken though, I don't think the moon's rotation as ceased at all; it's still rotating, just really slowly; if I recall correctly the moon rotates on it's axis about once every 27 days. ....Here's a video of it; not quite sure how to describe it:
Here's another video going into some of the other weird things about the moon (sorry if it's kind of boring):
Though to be fair, the "ringing like a gong" phenomenon that was described could be explained by the fact there's no moisture on the moon; it's possible Earth would ring like a bell if it was hit hard enough, provided of course we didn't have vast oceans to serve as a type of shock-absorbing sponge that would dampen down the effects.
Definitely interesting to contemplate though. Really wished I could go there for myself; apparently there's also some pictures of what apear to be structures on the surface of the moon that can't be explained by pure natural formations. Of course, those pictures could have been doctored. Hard telling.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Was the sandy hook shooting a hoax
« on: February 25, 2018, 08:21:35 PM »Grief is a very simple process that everybody experiences in exactly the same way.
Wrong. I speak from experience. I'm autistic and don't experience emotions the same way as most do at all, because my brain is damaged. I've lost both my grandparents and two best friends; never felt any denial over it, because there was no denying that it happened. I didn't feel angry, because there wasn't anyone to be angry at. I didn't try bargaining, because I knew they were never coming back, so there'd be no point to bargaining with anyone for them to come back from the dead. I didn't feel depressed, because I knew they were going to die sooner or later. People die all the time. The only stage of "grief" I felt was Acceptance, because life is busy, I have things to do, and that's all I could do. Move on. Some called me a monster for my reaction (or lack thereof, rather). That just made me feel Confused, because clearly I'm a human being.
I just don't experience emotions the same way other people do, and my face just has a flat-affect to it just about 24/7. I don't understand a lot of things people seem to take for granted. Jokes, sarcasm, metaphores, social niceties and norms, et cetera. They all just kind of go over my head.
I'd even propose that nobody experiences emotions the exact same way as the next person. People are different from one another. There's no two exactly alike because we all have different experiences in life, so we're all wired differently to one degree or another, some moreso than others. I recall a saying that goes something like "You have to laugh to keep from crying." Not quite sure what that means, but I think I've witnessed it a couple times. I remember finding it really weird.
He was being sarcastic.
Oh...my bad.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is the Moon Flat?
« on: February 25, 2018, 11:06:55 AM »
...I'm more curious as to how the moon affects Earth's tides in a Flat-Earth model, what with Flat-Earthers not believing in gravity and such.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why is the Earth not round
« on: February 25, 2018, 10:47:09 AM »
Show something where the observer is on the night side and the moon is pointing AWAY from the earth.
I think this may be an impossible task, because the moon's rotation is synchornized with Earth's rotation in such a manner that only one side of the moon is visible to us on Earth at any given moment. Which, yes, is REALLY weird. The odds of the moon's rotation being THAT precisely synchronized with Earth's rotation are ASTRONOMICAL. I personally think, as crazy as it may sound, that this is because the moon was engineered. Some more supporting evidence for that theory can be found by observing the craters on the moon; they all seem to be roughly the same depth. Which again, is pretty weird....unless of course the moon is some kind of a structure with a dense material just under the surface. I haven't had the chance to read it yet, but someone else had the same theory and wrote a book about it entitled "Who Built the Moon?" by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler. No; I don't think humans built the moon; that's ridiculous seeing as the moon has been around since at least Biblical times, (if I recall correctly, there was a piece of scripture that started something like "before the time of the moon...") I'm pretty sure the moon was engineered, and then brought here by extraterrestrial entities. ....Yep...I know how crazy that sounds, but it would explain a lot, including why we never see the dark side of the moon...possibly because there may be technological bases stationed on the far side of the moon. But yeah...I could go on and on about the moon and all the weird things about it; the subject greatly fascinates me.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Prove to me the Earth is flat
« on: February 25, 2018, 10:10:08 AM »
Secondly, the Earth can be proven round by the fact that one can see further away the higher they climb a tall structure. I would argue against the flat-earth theory by pointing out the fact that if the Earth were flat, then you should be able to see the same exact distance regardless of how high you climb. If that were true, then if you climbed the tallest building in New York City, equipped with a powerful telescope, then you should be able to see the Eiffel Tower in Paris. This of course, is not the case, lending further evidence to the concept of a round-earth.
Hope this helps.
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This is very good, but I'll just point out that even with a flat Earth model, you can see further from higher when there's some intervening obstacle.
Indeed. Obstacles tend to obstruct and get in the way of things.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Was the sandy hook shooting a hoax
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:15:54 AM »Grief is a very simple process that everybody experiences in exactly the same way.
Wrong. I speak from experience. I'm autistic and don't experience emotions the same way as most do at all, because my brain is damaged. I've lost both my grandparents and two best friends; never felt any denial over it, because there was no denying that it happened. I didn't feel angry, because there wasn't anyone to be angry at. I didn't try bargaining, because I knew they were never coming back, so there'd be no point to bargaining with anyone for them to come back from the dead. I didn't feel depressed, because I knew they were going to die sooner or later. People die all the time. The only stage of "grief" I felt was Acceptance, because life is busy, I have things to do, and that's all I could do. Move on. Some called me a monster for my reaction (or lack thereof, rather). That just made me feel Confused, because clearly I'm a human being.
I just don't experience emotions the same way other people do, and my face just has a flat-affect to it just about 24/7. I don't understand a lot of things people seem to take for granted. Jokes, sarcasm, metaphores, social niceties and norms, et cetera. They all just kind of go over my head.
I'd even propose that nobody experiences emotions the exact same way as the next person. People are different from one another. There's no two exactly alike because we all have different experiences in life, so we're all wired differently to one degree or another, some moreso than others. I recall a saying that goes something like "You have to laugh to keep from crying." Not quite sure what that means, but I think I've witnessed it a couple times. I remember finding it really weird.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Am I right or wrong
« on: February 25, 2018, 08:50:49 AM »
Go with science. Do experiments. I'm pretty sure the Earth is round because I've done the experiments, not the research. Other people's research will always fall short when it comes to firsthand experience. I can still volunteer the possibility though that I might be wrong about the Earth being round; I'm just pretty sure that I'm not. If I encounter any new evidence for a Flat-Earth that contradicts my experiments, then I'd run more experiments to either prove or disprove the theory. So far it looks like the Earth is round. You can contact me privately if you need to talk or want suggestions on how you can go about proving to yourself once and for all whether or not the Earth is round or flat.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Why do people think it's possible for humans to travel through time?
« on: February 25, 2018, 08:09:27 AM »
The only way I know how to time travel, theoretically, would be to use a space-ship and a black hole. Suspended animation for humans would also have to be available, (we're not too awfully far away from that now, so let's just pretend it already exists).
According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, massive objects create distortions in space and time. Near a black hole, these distortions become so strong that time behaves in unexpected ways.
Imagine that we are on a spaceship near a black hole. We drop a clock into the black hole and compare its time to that of our onboard clock. The falling clock runs progressively slower. It never crosses the event horizon, but stays frozen there in space and time. The falling clock also becomes continuously redder, since its light loses energy as it escapes from the black hole's vicinity.
By contrast, if we were falling with the clock, time would appear to behave perfectly normally. We would see no slowdown as we approached the event horizon. We would cross the horizon without any perceptible change, and our color would not appear to change. This is the principle of relativity: things can appear different depending on whether you are moving or standing still.
So, using suspended animation to make the years-long journey to a black hole, possibly using a star's gravitational pull to slingshot us at a high enough speed that we run little risk of getting sucked into the black hole and spaghettified before being crushed into a microscopic pulp, then the time distortion would hold us near the vicinity of the event horizon for what may seem like hundreds if not thousands of years as observed by Earth, but to us, time would be running perfectly normally; the whole trip may feel like just a few years or so, (forgetting for the moment that we aren't in suspended animation dreamland), but in reality, by the time we got back to Earth, we'd be in the distant future. We might not like what we find, either. Suppose for a moment that humanity had evolved into almost alien looking humanoids; we'd look like Neanderthals to them, and they might even want to put us in a People Zoo. Or, worse yet, we come back to an Earth that has been long-ago destroyed by a massive meteor, or struck by a solar flare that wiped out all life on Earth. Not a pretty picture.
In regards to going into the PAST though, I have no Earthly idea; one would probably have to start getting into quantum mechanics in order to accomplish that feat. It's interesting to note though that theoretical physics working at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) have observed particles which appear out of nowhere then disappear just as quickly, and in a random fashion. One of their theories is that these particles are actually popping in and out of the space-time continuum. Where do they go? They don't know; they suggest that perhaps when they disappear here, they pop up in another time or a parrelel universe, where scientists in that universe/time are observing the same particles doing the same things, scratching their heads just like we are, asking themselves the same questions we're asking.
According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, massive objects create distortions in space and time. Near a black hole, these distortions become so strong that time behaves in unexpected ways.
Imagine that we are on a spaceship near a black hole. We drop a clock into the black hole and compare its time to that of our onboard clock. The falling clock runs progressively slower. It never crosses the event horizon, but stays frozen there in space and time. The falling clock also becomes continuously redder, since its light loses energy as it escapes from the black hole's vicinity.
By contrast, if we were falling with the clock, time would appear to behave perfectly normally. We would see no slowdown as we approached the event horizon. We would cross the horizon without any perceptible change, and our color would not appear to change. This is the principle of relativity: things can appear different depending on whether you are moving or standing still.
So, using suspended animation to make the years-long journey to a black hole, possibly using a star's gravitational pull to slingshot us at a high enough speed that we run little risk of getting sucked into the black hole and spaghettified before being crushed into a microscopic pulp, then the time distortion would hold us near the vicinity of the event horizon for what may seem like hundreds if not thousands of years as observed by Earth, but to us, time would be running perfectly normally; the whole trip may feel like just a few years or so, (forgetting for the moment that we aren't in suspended animation dreamland), but in reality, by the time we got back to Earth, we'd be in the distant future. We might not like what we find, either. Suppose for a moment that humanity had evolved into almost alien looking humanoids; we'd look like Neanderthals to them, and they might even want to put us in a People Zoo. Or, worse yet, we come back to an Earth that has been long-ago destroyed by a massive meteor, or struck by a solar flare that wiped out all life on Earth. Not a pretty picture.
In regards to going into the PAST though, I have no Earthly idea; one would probably have to start getting into quantum mechanics in order to accomplish that feat. It's interesting to note though that theoretical physics working at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) have observed particles which appear out of nowhere then disappear just as quickly, and in a random fashion. One of their theories is that these particles are actually popping in and out of the space-time continuum. Where do they go? They don't know; they suggest that perhaps when they disappear here, they pop up in another time or a parrelel universe, where scientists in that universe/time are observing the same particles doing the same things, scratching their heads just like we are, asking themselves the same questions we're asking.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: February 25, 2018, 06:07:32 AM »
Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed with the new DC movies. All the new superhero movies really, but I still watch them because I'm a fan haha.
Personally, I'd like to see a television series made that takes all the superheroes back to their roots. I'm a big fan of Golden Age comic books. Superheroes should wear tights in my mind, not rubber bodysuits or armor haha.
Personally, I'd like to see a television series made that takes all the superheroes back to their roots. I'm a big fan of Golden Age comic books. Superheroes should wear tights in my mind, not rubber bodysuits or armor haha.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Prove to me the Earth is flat
« on: February 25, 2018, 01:55:32 AM »
I'm a round-earther, so I can't prove that the Earth is flat, but I'll provide some of my arguments as well as validations as you requested.
Firstly, aside from Eratosthene's experiment, the Earth can be proven round by watching ships disappear over the curvature of the Earth. A flat-earther might refute this observation as being the result of perspective, (as things get further away, they start looking smaller). I would then argue that that theory doesn't make sense, because the ship's hull disappears first, then, incrementally, so do the sails, from bottom to top. It's clearly going downwards over an incremental drop-off, also known as a curve.
Secondly, the Earth can be proven round by the fact that one can see further away the higher they climb a tall structure. I would argue against the flat-earth theory by pointing out the fact that if the Earth were flat, then you should be able to see the same exact distance regardless of how high you climb. If that were true, then if you climbed the tallest building in New York City, equipped with a powerful telescope, then you should be able to see the Eiffel Tower in Paris. This of course, is not the case, lending further evidence to the concept of a round-earth.
Thirdly, one can clearly see the shadow of the Earth against the moon's surface. If Earth was simply a flat circle, then the only way that shadow would be possible is if the flat-earth model was vertical; if this were the case, then, seeing as the flat-earther's explanation for gravity is that the flat-earth is moving upwards in space really fast, everything would slide off the earth, unless of course the flat-earthers revised their theory to say that the flat earth is indeed vertical, and either headed straight towards the moon at a high velocity in order to hold us all to the surface, or, moving quickly away from the moon, depending on which side of the circle they say we're on. Of course, if this was the case, not only would we be able to see the shadow of Earth on the moon getting bigger or smaller, but we would also all be dead by now. The only other logical explanation for Earth's shadow against the moon, remaining consistent in shape and cyclic patterns, is that the Earth is round, not flat.
Hope this helps.
Firstly, aside from Eratosthene's experiment, the Earth can be proven round by watching ships disappear over the curvature of the Earth. A flat-earther might refute this observation as being the result of perspective, (as things get further away, they start looking smaller). I would then argue that that theory doesn't make sense, because the ship's hull disappears first, then, incrementally, so do the sails, from bottom to top. It's clearly going downwards over an incremental drop-off, also known as a curve.
Secondly, the Earth can be proven round by the fact that one can see further away the higher they climb a tall structure. I would argue against the flat-earth theory by pointing out the fact that if the Earth were flat, then you should be able to see the same exact distance regardless of how high you climb. If that were true, then if you climbed the tallest building in New York City, equipped with a powerful telescope, then you should be able to see the Eiffel Tower in Paris. This of course, is not the case, lending further evidence to the concept of a round-earth.
Thirdly, one can clearly see the shadow of the Earth against the moon's surface. If Earth was simply a flat circle, then the only way that shadow would be possible is if the flat-earth model was vertical; if this were the case, then, seeing as the flat-earther's explanation for gravity is that the flat-earth is moving upwards in space really fast, everything would slide off the earth, unless of course the flat-earthers revised their theory to say that the flat earth is indeed vertical, and either headed straight towards the moon at a high velocity in order to hold us all to the surface, or, moving quickly away from the moon, depending on which side of the circle they say we're on. Of course, if this was the case, not only would we be able to see the shadow of Earth on the moon getting bigger or smaller, but we would also all be dead by now. The only other logical explanation for Earth's shadow against the moon, remaining consistent in shape and cyclic patterns, is that the Earth is round, not flat.
Hope this helps.
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