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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gyroscopes
« on: February 06, 2018, 11:14:53 PM »
However, you could still get the same result from what Tom is describing as far as a gravitational pull from a distant object.

That would seem to be the solution for most areas on earth but it still does not describe the gyroscope's tendency to point straight up and down relative to earth and space on the north or south poles even though hours pass by.
Well Celestial Gravitation in the FE hypothesis IS typified by the North and South celestial gear systems rotating against one another. Thus how we have the North and South celestial poles. So the gravitational effect of being at the center of rotation of the systems above would do the same thing.

Correct me if I am wrong because I am having a difficult time picturing it, but in a round earth setting gyros would point in the same direction if you were to fly or travel starting at one that pointed up and not have to change your course at all, and would be parallel to a line of latitude. However, if you were to walk on a straight path on a plane, and the gyros were being attracted by something rotating around the poles then there would be circles of gyroscopes all pointing tangent to those circles, therefore, the gyroscopes would appear as they were slowly becoming perpendicular to you until you reach the ice wall.

It would be helpful if someone would post a picture of what it would look like. If someone does it would be helpful to have the Celestial pole rotation, what the lines of latitude would look like, how the gyros would be attracted to this force and any other thing that would be relevant to this topic.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gyroscopes
« on: February 06, 2018, 03:39:54 AM »
However, you could still get the same result from what Tom is describing as far as a gravitational pull from a distant object.

That would seem to be the solution for most areas on earth but it still does not describe the gyroscope's tendency to point straight up and down relative to earth and space on the north or south poles even though hours pass by.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gyroscopes
« on: February 06, 2018, 12:25:18 AM »
This is the same effect as the Foucault pendulum (I think, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Tom Bishop explains it on the wiki by invoking the "gravitation" of stars many light-years away. Whether you choose to believe him or not is up to you.

Foucault pendulum is a pendulum that proves the earth rotates because the force of the earth rotating does not act upon the pendulum thus it swings in the same direction relative to space. However, gyro's stay in the same orientation relative to space because it adds up the two forces (inertia and the earth's rotation). This difference can be seen at the equator, the Foucault pendulum would swing in the same path relative to earth because no rotational force would be applied to the pendulum so it would continue to follow its original path. However, the gyroscope would continue to tilt relative to earth but not relative to space.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Earth is Constantly Accelerating?
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:56:18 PM »
Pulled from your FAQ page on January 14th, 2018 at 3:45 p.m.: "The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.

Due to special relativity, this is not the case. At this point, many readers will question the validity of any answer which uses advanced, intimidating-sounding physics terms to explain a position. However, it is true. The relevant equation is v/c = tanh (at/c). One will find that in this equation, tanh(at/c) can never exceed or equal 1. This means that velocity can never reach the speed of light, regardless of how long one accelerates for and the rate of the acceleration."

Due to your accepting that the Earth is constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 and that an object's velocity can never exceed the velocity of light, which is 300,000,000 m/s, you cannot say that the Earth is doing such a thing. If an object accelerates at a starting velocity of 0m/s and accelerates at 9.8m/s^2 for 30,612,245 seconds, then its velocity will equal 300,000,001m/s. So, how do you explain gravity, then?

Remember that if one was traveling at the speed of light, light still travels at the speed of light in their own perspective. If another was looking at the same particle while they were stagnant then that particle would still be traveling at the speed of light. My point is that focusing on a single perspective in inherently wrong. Relativity, by disproving itself proves itself. A person at rest would see the equation be y/c=tanh(ax/c)
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/etn3sar8hh, however, the person accelerating would only preceve acceleration and no velocity. The equation would look like 0/c=tanh(ax/c) https://www.desmos.com/calculator/iqfaodnh07. Strange, right?

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Flat Earth Theory / Gyroscopes
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:15:02 PM »
How do continuously spinning objects such as gyroscopes tilt as the day passes? Round earth explains this because the earth spins on its axis and the gyroscope would always point in the same direction in space.

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