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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification

« on: January 06, 2022, 09:45:00 AM »

It's a pretty big stretch to say that "the Irish" refers to the prehistoric inhabitants of Ireland that we know very little about and not the Celts, who forged a distinctive national identity and culture and maintained it for thousands of years. It's true that the Celts weren't the first inhabitants of Ireland, but very few ethnic groups were the first inhabitants of the nations they now identify with. For example, Anglo-Saxons are usually seen as being quintessentially English, but they have far less historical claim to Britain than the Celts do to Ireland.

Precisely. It is equally a big stretch to claim that Northern Ireland belongs to the Irish, being as there were no Irish until their independence in 1922 ... we were all British. For them to claim independence in the South and suddenly also have the right to land in the North is an absurd claim. The people in the North (also British) decided to remain British via referendum and they live on the land they've always lived and their forefathers of thousands of years have lived. People in the South have no claim over the land of the North. Its not theirs. Never was theirs. Never belonged to their ancestors ... it belonged to the forefathers of those who now CURRENTLY live in Northern Ireland who choose to call themselves British.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification

« on: January 05, 2022, 08:11:22 PM »

Mmmm, these people sound like they are from the modern day EU, conquered us English and then pushed on to conquer the Irish. England has no charge to answer.

So are you retracting your claim that the Irish never owned the land?

Sure they did ... but then they were all killed by the Celts in about 500BC. After this time there were no Irish. Just a bunch of European colonialists claiming to be the rightful owners of the land they conquered.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification

« on: January 05, 2022, 07:55:57 PM »

You can't have lost land that you have never owned. Get a history book.

I put it to you that it is you who should learn some history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Norman_invasion_of_Ireland

The Anglo-Normans were the medieval ruling class in England, composed mainly of a combination of ethnic Normans, French, Anglo-Saxons, Flemings and Bretons, following the Norman conquest.

Mmmm, these people sound like they are from the modern day EU, conquered us English and then pushed on to conquer the Irish. England has no charge to answer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Irish reunification

« on: January 05, 2022, 07:27:13 PM »

Canada is starting along the path of reviving some first nation’s languages. I hope it goes well, but we did so much to eradicate native speakers that it is a steep hill to climb.

Yeah, that's an especially awkward case because modern political boundaries don't even approximate those of the first nations, so the cultures associated with those languages are also long dead. At least Irish national identity is still intact, even though they've lost a sixth of their land to a foreign aggressor.

You can't have lost land that you have never owned. Get a history book.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 05, 2022, 12:02:59 PM »

This thing is a nothing burger.

I bet all the dead people feel pretty stupid now.

Doris was going to die before her 97th birthday, coronavirus or not. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 05:21:14 PM »

Either way though, I can take a view on it that although woodchippers are deadly^TM, we shouldn't ban woodchippers, nor should we force everyone on earth to have a license to operate one that needs renewing every 4-6 months.

True and we all know that falling into woodchippers is highly contagious.

The more woodchippers that are out there, the more likely people will fall into them.

One will fall in and the sickness will spread like wildfire. Neighbor after neighbor taking the plunge into the chipper. Why haven't we required licenses yet??

I'm just not seeing the data. Also, how many of these people were already dead when they fell into the woodchipper? I think you've been reading too many mainstream media headlines about woodchippers aggressively chopping people up.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 04:50:57 PM »

Either way though, I can take a view on it that although woodchippers are deadly^TM, we shouldn't ban woodchippers, nor should we force everyone on earth to have a license to operate one that needs renewing every 4-6 months.

True and we all know that falling into woodchippers is highly contagious.

The more woodchippers that are out there, the more likely people will fall into them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 04:20:08 PM »

This is what I mean. You've replied 3 times now, asked a bunch of accusatory questions and not one of them is "Are you feeling better?". 

Why do you expect concern from others when you show so little concern for others?

I've been coming back to this website for a decade now to make sure you haven't killed yourself! 

the best part is the way he manages to put "who cares if other people die, i'm fine," and "why isn't anyone concerned about me" in the same fucking breath.

Dead nobodies aren't the same as dead people you know. The world is enormous. If one of 7 billion people falls into a woodchipper today, that's unfortunate but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If my next door neighbour falls into a woodchipper, I'll go to the funeral and ask the family if there is anything I can do to help. Either way though, I can take a view on it that although woodchippers are deadly^TM, we shouldn't ban woodchippers, nor should we force everyone on earth to have a license to operate one that needs renewing every 4-6 months.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 12:07:39 PM »

I'm likely in the top 5% of fitness for people on earth.

And yet Covid laid you low for 3 days. So have a think about what that means for people who are older and less fit.
Come on, I reckon you'll connect the dots and get there if you really try.

Two points.

1) Why can't you learn to quote properly? You've been at this site forever. You must know how to do this by now.
2) I never said I had covid. You see, I just said I was ill. There are very very many diseases out there, but just like OUR NHS (peace be upon it), you are quick to jump to the conclusion that it is covid and therefore I deserved to have been ill for not being vaccinated. I maintain it was a seasonal flu. That still exists you know.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/flu/
^ I had all these symptoms minus the last 2.

I did not have loss of smell or taste, covid toe, runny nose, sneezing, the continuous cough or pretty much any of the things you'd expect from covid.

This is my point. You're all covid obsessed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 11:24:58 AM »

I've thought about it

This seems unlikely.

and a deadly virus needs to kill people.

It doesn't need to kill everyone to be considered deadly. No-one has ever claimed Covid has a 100% kill rate.

If it kills one single person who may be vulnerable, is that enough to consider it deadly?

Is laughter deadly?
One ancient account of the death of Chrysippus, a third-century BC Greek Stoic philosopher, tells that he died of laughter after he saw a donkey eating his figs; he told a slave to give the donkey neat wine to drink to wash them down with, and then, "...having laughed too much, he died". I don't get why a donkey eating figs is funny but I guess you had to be there. Should we all be careful about laughing? How many people need to die of laughter before you consider it deadly? What is the threshold before you begin to panic?

By the way, I tested positive last Thursday. The missus tested positive on Christmas Day

Are we still talking about covid or have you moved the conversation on?

I tested negative then but have now succumbed.
For me it's just been a bit of a cold. So maybe you're a bit of a wimp?

I haven't had any cold like symptoms. I had a raging fever for 3 days and then now I'm fine. Also, I recently posted some pictures of my god-like physique. I'm likely in the top 5% of fitness for people on earth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 10:56:21 AM »

How are ya feeling Thork?

Better thanks. I don't feel ill any more. I just feel weak. I'm just going to take it easy for a few more days before I try anything strenuous.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 10:47:29 AM »

Holy shit. An expert with a brain.

It is not affordable or sustainable to keep vaccinating everyone against Covid-19 on the planet regularly, a UK vaccine scientist says.

Prof Sir Andrew Pollard, who helped develop the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, says the most at risk should be identified and prioritised instead.

I've been saying this since the vaccine was invented. Its taken one of the finest medical minds in the country 2 years to come to this revelation and he's a lone voice. Just jab the vulnerable. Requiring someone like me to be jabbed 3 times in 18 months and to carry a passport to prove it, under threat of health discrimination of products and services is utter madness.

Meanwhile the UK is making children wear masks in school again next term. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 10:40:31 AM »

I'm sorry you're feeling poorly, Thork.

Finally. Someone with a little empathy.

But those Herman Cain Awards are not a thing someone can receive without considerable sacrifice.

I've never heard of this Herman guy and a read of his wiki page doesn't give me any clues as to why you mentioned him.

I'm not aware of any virus killing otherwise healthy people.

What a strange definition of “deadly”.

Mmmm. I hadn't considered that you might want to call a virus that doesn't kill people, "deadly". ...  No, I'm sorry. I've thought about it and a deadly virus needs to kill people. I'm just old fashioned like that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Elizabeth Holmes - Guilty

« on: January 04, 2022, 01:59:30 AM »

If only they got her on more of the counts. Sounds like they might declare a mistrial on 3 of them.

Too many rich people want her banged up. She's going to do a lot of bird.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Weather forecasts

« on: January 04, 2022, 01:21:10 AM »

If only more meteorologists were involved in climate science! Actually that might not be a great thing, because climate change is very different than weather forecasting.

The British government gets all its climate predictions from the met office. The same people that do the weather using equally dubious prediction modelling.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/approach/collaboration/ukcp

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 01:17:42 AM »

Which deadly virus is making the rounds?

I think you know.

I'm not aware of any virus killing otherwise healthy people. Maybe you've been gas lit by the media or something?

Also, spreading the virus while you're sick isn't the only reason to get a test. How many people have you been in contact with while refusing to wear a mask during the incubation period? Have you informed any of them that you were sick? Do you know if any of them have symptoms? Have you taken any responsible steps at all?

This is what I mean. You've replied 3 times now, asked a bunch of accusatory questions and not one of them is "Are you feeling better?". 

Starting to feel a bit nervous for all the poor bastards that spent time with you at the pub on NYE…

I couldn't go out NYE. I was already slipping in and out of the shadow realm by then. I last went out on Christmas Eve for drinks, but saw a panto on the 28th. It is likely in the theatre where I picked up this bug because I was very ill from the 31st morning onwards.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 01:03:59 AM »

I could barely crawl out of my bed for a shit, let alone go out to a place to get a test.

Ah, so it just didn't occur to you that it might be prudent to buy a self-test before you got sick while a deadly virus was making the rounds.

Which deadly virus is making the rounds?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Elizabeth Holmes - Guilty

« on: January 04, 2022, 01:03:11 AM »

In what will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody, Theranos founder, Elizabeth Holmes has just been found guilty of wire fraud.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59734254

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 12:52:53 AM »

Now I don't believe it was Covid.

Are you telling me you got feverishly ill during a pandemic and you didn't bother to even take a self-test for the disease that's going around?

I could barely crawl out of my bed for a shit, let alone go out to a place to get a test. Besides ... in my room I infected no one. Going out to get a test out of 'intellectual curiosity' would be irresponsible because I would be out potentially spreading whatever the hell it was that I had.

I decided ... am I dying? No, probably not. Ok, then I'm not going to hospital so here I shall stay.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: January 04, 2022, 12:44:36 AM »

I have been ill. Very ill.

I spent 3 whole days in bed. Unable to sleep, just sweating and sweating, a headache the whole time and all my muscles and skin was sore. My eyes hurt too much to watch TV or read so I just lay there. Bored and unhappy. Its been a long time since I've been that ill. I lost half a stone in 3 days and I was only 11 stone to begin with.

Now I don't believe it was Covid. Felt exactly like a 24 hour flu, albeit lasted longer. No snotty nose, no sore throat, no cough. It was just a straight up fever. However, this does not matter. The fact that I am unvaccinated seems to mean that
a) it must be covid and
b) I thoroughly deserve to have been that ill

I'm finding the vaccinated not to be the compassionate and loving people they profess to be. It seems they aren't interested in my welfare at all. They are only interested in being right and if my death proves that, it's a good thing. Pious bastards.