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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 15, 2013, 10:48:02 PM »

Thats fine, we can just talk about it and it never happening if thats what you prefer.
Or we just vote and the people who we want in arrange the details with everyone. The votes wont be any different in a week or 6 months. We can vote for the people we want on it now and we can then get things like the details sorted. Or we can just talk about it for weeks because not everyone will ever agree and we cant exactly get together at the same time and sort it.

Like I said, there's no rush. If we'd rather we can set up a temporary governance, but that seems incredibly pointless to me.

I think 3 options should be put forward for a vote from across a spectrum.

One where we vote in one president, one where we have one president and a council (dunno how many members) and one where we only have a council (again dunno how many members).

The options I've proposed might not be correct because they're highly dependent on the reasons for the council and what it's meant to do, and I haven't got a clue what that is.

Exactly. Let's make our constitution as equals, and then decide who should be running the show.

That is what I have been trying to say.  Why do we have to hurry up and make a decision, when we really do not know what the heck we are voting for?  Let's work out the details, then figure out how we should vote.  Thork wants to rush things, but we should do this in a more organised manor. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Forum rules: Draft 1

« on: December 15, 2013, 10:11:09 PM »

Actually, the "don't be a dick" rule pretty much covers this. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 15, 2013, 09:39:40 PM »

Maybe you should be more to the point.  Direct even. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Questions for the FAQ

« on: December 15, 2013, 09:38:37 PM »

Seasons
Magnetism
circumnavigation
Time zones

Maybe even lunar laser bounces

Just a few off the top of my head. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 15, 2013, 09:17:16 PM »

I feel the same way as DDDDAts all folks.  I feel that certain people are rushing this just to get it done.  However, we don't even know what we are voting for. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: How is Jroa Still a Mod?

« on: December 15, 2013, 08:24:12 PM »

On the other forum, it is against the rules to post private messages without the other person's consent.  I feel like my privacy was taken away when rooster decided to post my private thoughts.  Thanks, rooster, for making me feel like shit. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: How is Jroa Still a Mod?

« on: December 15, 2013, 08:13:24 PM »

I am bleeding in my heart. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 15, 2013, 08:12:31 PM »

It should be pubic later. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 09:16:02 AM »

I hope the Chinese step up their game this time and make it some what believable.  They did a horrible job on their fake space walk.  Maybe they learned from their previous mistakes. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: FES Video

« on: December 14, 2013, 12:16:59 AM »

I agree.  Make it sound natural. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet another one

« on: December 13, 2013, 11:20:44 PM »

When all of the bad gun people have been executed, we will have peace. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Drugs should be legal.

« on: December 13, 2013, 11:18:31 PM »

Let's not bicker over the details.  Let's just agree that Sean is a horrible person. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 13, 2013, 07:57:59 PM »

OK, how about this for the first round of votes.  The one who gets the most votes gets a full 1 year term, the second person gets a 9 month term, the third person gets a 6 month term, and the fourth and fifth people get a 3 month term.  That way, we constantly have new councilors, but also have an established base.  Maybe do an election every 3 months for those positions that are leaving? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Drugs should be legal.

« on: December 13, 2013, 07:42:30 PM »

I'm not. I realize i didn't portray my views well, and i did correct myself. By your argument any parent who drinks is a bad parent. I don't think an occasional marijuana smoker is automatically a bad parent.

No, endangering a child is wrong.  A responsible person can have a drink and not be impaired enough to endanger a child.  I don't smoke any more, but it is the same, except that with smoking weed, you are pretty much either sober or wasted.  At least with alcohol, you can slow down or speed up, regulating your intoxication. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Drugs should be legal.

« on: December 13, 2013, 07:33:12 PM »

Then, why are you arguing the opposite? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Drugs should be legal.

« on: December 13, 2013, 07:13:17 PM »

That is a different issue entirely, Thork. endangering or neglecting a child should be prohibited. however drug use wouldn't necessarily cause this. I could smoke marijuana, for instance, and still feel comfortable with taking care of someone.

You feeling like you are comfortable with taking care of someone does not equal you being able to take care of something.  This is the problem with people driving drunk.  They feel confident that they can do it, but are not always  successful. 

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 13, 2013, 06:59:44 PM »

Can I suggest that the first round of council members should be limited to a 6 month term while we work out the details, then?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Thread for talking about council nominations.

« on: December 13, 2013, 06:38:43 PM »

The only problem is that we have not really defined what the role of the council will be.  I propose that somebody please write up a short statement, maybe just a paragraph, that defines the role and powers of the council, a length of term, and specify what the checks and balances are in order to make sure that their power is kept at a reasonable level.  I propose that the Admins are allowed to veto anything the council decides if it has a 2/3 vote.

We have a list of nominees; however, we have yet to find out how many of these nominees are actually interested in the position.  I think we need to consolidate the list, and allow the nominees to decline or agree to being on the ballot.  This should only take a few days.  Also, nobody really said how many nominations are required in order to get on the ballot.  I will assume 1, unless people object.

In addition, I think we should allow the nominees to give at least one small speech, to allow people to understand their views.  Maybe even a debate or two.  Otherwise, we are voting for them based on their previous posts and it is nothing more than a popularity contest.

In short, I think that people are trying to rush this with out really thinking it through.  At this point, we are basing our votes on the posts from the other site, and we really have nothing more to go on besides that.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Nominate 5 names for the council.

« on: December 13, 2013, 11:27:20 AM »

I nominate beardo and Chris.   

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Announcements / Re: Our new homepage is now live

« on: December 09, 2013, 07:24:43 AM »

Nice, Parsifal.  The only real thing that I would change is to take the word "debate" out and work in "discuss".  The reason I say this is because I think that people might think this is just a debate forum and lose the fact that we are open minded. 

I recommend something along the lines of, "we welcome people of all beliefs to discuss any concerns they have have about our theories with us".

Maybe beliefs is not the right word.  It kind of implies religion.  I don't know.