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Flat Earth Community / Re: 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 08, 2017, 05:01:17 PM »

Sounds like science to me. Nice post 3D.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Best Eric Dubay videos

« on: October 07, 2017, 07:31:20 PM »

Is this code for who are the paid shills? The ones that twist the truth to meet the RE agenda while acting all FE.

I've been posting for fun, is getting paid an option? That would be awesome! If you know where I can sign up for that please let me know. Thanks.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is an experimental result that would convince you the Earth is a globe?

« on: October 07, 2017, 07:24:00 PM »

xenotolerance, the moon is more obvious to be artificial than the ISS, but how do you know whether they aren't both orbs flying around, and sometimes cloaking? I'm not even sure, if i'm being right.
How do you know, if what you state can be proven by real world observations(not only just logical conclusions, based on mainstream science lies)?

I really don't know how to take this answer, but I think you are saying that data relating to those is not acceptable to you, without seeing it or giving any consideration. Typical.

Orbs flying around? Well, both are things orbiting the Earth, not technically flying, but close enough I guess.

Cloaking? When does the moon cloak, are you talking about eclipses?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is THIS the sun/moon/stars/planets?

« on: October 07, 2017, 07:06:34 PM »

This is a common FE theme. I don't understand it, so it must be "robotic, abnormal, fake!"

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Flat Earth Community / Re: 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 07, 2017, 06:48:48 PM »

Really? When I saw the Dyson sphere reference (from Star Trek:TNG) I thought the post was a joke.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Best Eric Dubay videos

« on: October 07, 2017, 01:41:57 AM »

Do you realize how stupid this is? Here is what the :National Center for Science Education, Inc. says

"This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction."
"The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory.

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is "universal".

Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, "the moon goes around the earth." If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory."

As usual, you can't take anything JMAn posts seriously. He provided a link and a quote, probably assuming shallow people would read the quote and see that it had a source and not look any further.

Here is the opening of the article that he skipped over

This satirical look at "only a theory" disclaimers imagines what might happen if advocates applied the same logic to the theory of gravitation that they do to the theory of evolution.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is an experimental result that would convince you the Earth is a globe?

« on: October 07, 2017, 12:45:55 AM »

mtnman, what if the evidence would be with some data and details?

Ok, here are two examples:
What about using a laser to measure the distance to the moon? I know that test has been performed over the years, the data should be available somewhere.
What about the predictable and observable orbit of the ISS?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why just water?

« on: October 07, 2017, 12:25:19 AM »

Well, no meaningful FE answer to my question. I'll expand the question anyway.

If FE believers don't think gravity can hold water to a spinning ball, I would assume that belief extends to other things like atmospheres.

If that is the case, how do you explain the atmospheres of other planets staying in place? The best example being the bands and great red spot of Jupiter. These are visible with amateur telescopes. So no claiming NASA fakery on this one please.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 07, 2017, 12:19:46 AM »

you're also leaving out an important method: spectroscopy.  measuring changes in wavelength of absorption features on a spectrum tells you something about that object's relative velocity.  those changes also occur in a manner, and with a period, that depends on the geometry of the system.

Good points garygreen. I just listed a few advancements off the top of my head. And he cherry picks one thing to try and justify his absurd position. Typical.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is an experimental result that would convince you the Earth is a globe?

« on: October 06, 2017, 04:31:36 PM »

The FE faithful will simply dismiss anything you provide with as faked/staged/CGI/part of vast conspiracy etc.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is Earth Real?

« on: October 06, 2017, 04:20:52 PM »

mtnman, It's less scientific, and more philosophical: what if there are no limits, and the limits are slowly "broadening out", whenever we start to look for them(when we become more aware of them)?
What if, this whole simulation isn't made by a computer, but it's made by our own mind or something closely related to the mechanism of mind, like subconsciousness?

Philosophy isn't my thing, so I don't think I would have anything useful to add. The number thing was a response to speculated evidence of being in a computer simulation.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is Earth Real?

« on: October 06, 2017, 03:11:39 PM »

  If we found (for example) some quantum level phenomena that had exactly 4,294,967,296 or 4,294,967,295 outcomes - then we'd be able to STRONGLY surmise that the state information was being stored in a 32 bit binary number.   

Hi 3D  This is a really interesting idea and as usual you have the answers! Can you please explain this sentence for dummys? (like me) I don't get the significance of the numbers you mention, and an example of the quantum level phenomena so I can try get my head around it. Really appreciate your help if you can.

DA

I'll stab at the answer in case 3D is busy trying to get someone to explain magic photon paths in another thread. Those number are max value for 32 bit integers. It's suggesting that in a simulation we would expect to find limitations and patterns that are consistent with the way computers and binary math work.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 06, 2017, 02:59:47 PM »

The discovery of the planet Neptune is addressed in Earth Not a Globe.

Exoplanets are discovered by looking at stars for months at a time and looking for little dips in brightness, which are assumed to be caused by planets, and really has nothing to do with geometric predictions.

Well, sounds like astronomy has changed then.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The vanishing point

« on: October 06, 2017, 04:49:40 AM »

They do apply in all directions equally. If you are in a forest looking up at tall redwood trees you can also see that they seem slightly tilted at each other. The earth is a plane which stretches outwards from you until the lands reach the vanishing point. There are more things on the earth than high in the sky, so the effect is more visible.

If there are converging perspective lines in all directions, presumably they also have vanishing points. So why in your model is the sun visible when at it's highest in the sky mid day, but not after sunset? Are you saying that the sun is closer than the vanishing point at noon but past it after sunset?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: 2000 year old Antikythera Mechanism proves FE belief.

« on: October 06, 2017, 04:39:48 AM »

I will fill you in on something. The methods used in modern astronomy are still based on pattern prediction, and not really on a geometric model of the solar system. Such geometric models exist, but are inaccurate and not in use. The main methods are the same pattern-based methods the ancients used. Astronomy has never changed.

Debunked with 5 second Google search. A new near Earth asteroid discovered earlier this year. It has an orbit of 2.37 years. You suggest that could only know the pattern of an orbit after observing it. So wouldn't that take 2.37 years? (Reference below)

Pictures of far distant galaxies from Hubble. Pictures of gravitational lensing effects. Discover of exo-planets. Discovery of planets beyond Saturn. The ability to view stellar objects with non visible light such as radio or x-rays. Discovery of the microwave background. Etc. The idea that astronomy has never changed is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen here. And that's really saying something.

https://phys.org/news/2017-05-newly-house-sized-asteroid-hx4-flies.html

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 06, 2017, 01:17:49 AM »

That is an easy one. The good book (Bible) says God hears us all, so when we go to bounce communication of any type off the dome it doesn't really matter the direction. God knows from whom and to who even before it's sent.

So yes "God did It"

RE win confirmed.

But just to be clear, I know you're just trolling and you couldn't actually believe the crap you post. I'm only responding for the sake of anyone with an open mind who might wander by.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why just water?

« on: October 06, 2017, 01:15:24 AM »

If I held the CUP perfectly level (via plywood, w/level under), the coffee would force to the edge nearest the rear of truck. I drive a truck, manly man. Momentum thing.

Ever drink a cup of coffee on an airplane moving 500 miles an hour? Your logic would expect all of the coffee to speed out of the cup.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why just water?

« on: October 06, 2017, 12:28:11 AM »

If I held the CUP perfectly level (via plywood, w/level under), the coffee would force to the edge nearest the rear of truck. I drive a truck, manly man. Momentum thing.

Why just water? Do you believe a spinning ball could not hold water, but that it could hold atmosphere?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The vanishing point

« on: October 06, 2017, 12:26:27 AM »

Putting in cross sexting lines on the side only works if you turn sideways and look out to the vanishing points. Peripheral vision doesn't work in this instance.

So you say there are vanishing points to the horizon if I look sideways. Why are there no vanishing points if I look up? What's special about looking sideways?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How does FE think that GPS works?

« on: October 06, 2017, 12:24:27 AM »

GPS works just fine off repeater antennas, balloons, bouncing off the dome and home base communication.

Banned? What and miss this entertainment?

So several people (myself included) posted logical, thoughtful comments. And you just repeat the BS about GPS working with balloons. I'll chalk this one up as a RE win until you present some actual facts or evidence. Which I know you can't.

Or better yet, explain how position can be established using a non directional signal bounced off the inside of a dome. That should be fun.