For the record, I didn't say anything about GPS formulas using relativity, someone else made that comment. I actually had not heard that before, but considering the orbital speed of the satellites and their altitude, I suppose that makes sense. What with speed and lessor gravitational fields having effects and all.
It's a sad little world you have chosen for yourself where no accomplishments can be appreciated or knowledge gained based on the experiences of others.
Did you hear that someone climbed to the summit of Mt Everest? But wait, I can't comment on that since I didn't do that myself, and you probably haven't been there. So I guess you don't believe in that either.
OK, that's enough for now. I'm going to go back to the baseball game I'm watching on my satellite TV, which I assume you don't believe in either.
There's a big difference between claiming you can climb a mountain versus saying the earth is a shape that it isn't.
I HATE this BS FEers try to pull. It is such a bogus line of hypocritical garbage and they know it. What experiments have YOU performed? You say the Earth is flat, prove it. Satellites don't exist - right... I blew Tom Bishop up on this a while back. Had him backed into such a corner that he started claiming there was a conspiracy after claiming there isn't one. Rushy, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you aren't even remotely qualified to perform anything more than very basic "backyard science" sort of experiments. If you can't test it, it can't be true. Sigh, willful ignorance is such a sad thing.
The Bedford Level experiment is really all you need. On a curved world the size that RET claims it to be, water would curve at about an 8 inch drop per mile, and yet this doesn't exist. I've done it, you can do it too, all you need is a large lake or river and a laser pointer. Simple stuff, I imagine even you could do it, but you're not going to. You'll just continue to sit here and insist I'm doing the same thing you are: nothing.
No, it's exactly the same thing. You are saying I can't claim any fact without having proven it myself.
I claim that the summit of Everest was reached by Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay. I could give you links to articles written about it, pictures from the expedition. If you were to consistently apply your FE standard of proof, you would claim that since I wasn't there I can't prove it happened. I can't prove that the articles and the pictures are not forgeries, therefore, you shouldn't believe it. Granted that it is a different scale of alleged deception, but the concept is exactly the same.
I could claim that the Dodgers won Word Series game 1 last night. But I can't prove it since I watched it by receiving a broadcast signal from a satellite, which you say doesn't exist.
So you've called me out by showing that I personally didn't measure the red shift of certain distant galaxies. Wow, you got me there. It's a convenient method you have to make yourself feel superior and comfortable in ignoring knowledge gained by talented people that have access to high levels of education and advanced tools. But you have to ignore all of astronomy because it conflicts with your belief system.
As far as doing anything myself...
Example 1: I was at the beach a few weeks back. Used my DSLR zoom lens to take pictures of the most distant building I could along the coast. I took shots from the beach level and then from my 11th floor balcony. I forget the exact measurements (have them written down somewhere), the other building was about 12-14 miles away. The 8 inch/mile
2 thing said that from the balcony I should have nothing obscured and from the beach level there should have been 20 or 30 feet obscured. The zoom wasn't strong enough to make out individual floors to get an exact count, but it was quite clear that the beach in front of the other building could be viewed from my balcony, but not from the beach view photo. I had intended to post the pictures, but kept seeing the noise about refraction along the water from similar pictures and didn't think it would be worth the bother. But it confirmed the curvature in my mind.
Example 2: Before the same trip I decided to test FE vs. Timeanddate.com. That site allowed me to enter a location and date, it gave me the exact times and angles for sunset/rise, moonset/rise, etc. I posted a question here about how to calculate where (compass angle) the sun should set according to FE math. Got one response that gave me a formula that would work only if calculated for one of the equinox dates. Seems FE math isn't very advanced. But it worked out since my trip was only one week from the equinox, close enough for government work as they say. So I used my compass and atomic clock phone app and watched the sunset. It happened exactly where timeanddate said it would, which was about 25 degrees off from the FE prediction. I posted these results, and of course, none of the FE faithful had any comment. I will link to the thread if you want to review it.
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=6862.0So now that I've shared some of my work, let's hear about one of your experiments! I look forward to it.
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