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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity vs. Universal Acceleration

« on: December 15, 2013, 05:14:02 PM »

I'm not sure if universal acceleration exists.  All I know for sure is that from my perspective, things fall.  We can measure the rate at which these things fall.  It seems like idle speculation that leads to the conclusion that this is because we are accelerating upwards.  As for what it is, you can call it gravity if you like, but I'm not at all convinced that it's necessarily the same force that is responsible for the movement of the celestial bodies above us.  Believing that requires a leap of faith that I'm not prepared to take.

While gravity is attributed to the movement of celestial bodies in modern education, the main driver of the apparent motion of them is simply the Earth's spin. I know that you know that but I decided to waste my time responding anyway.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 15, 2013, 04:31:07 PM »

There is some stuff

http://www.universetoday.com/107196/chinas-maiden-lunar-rover-yutu-rolls-6-wheels-onto-the-moon-photo-and-video-gallery/

In any case, it's a spectacular display of paranoia watching the FE responses here.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 05:35:38 PM »

A cheating chess champion is a fraud for life. It simply does not matter if he now claims to have won a chess championship match behind closed doors.

His reputation was ruined when he decided to cheat. A fraud is a fraud, and there is no erasing that fact.

Again, you are painting me as someone who would let it slide. Just stop.

Furthermore, a cheating chess champion is an individual. A government of a country of billions of people is a dynamic entity and governments in general are likely to change their act when something is exposed.

It's happened with the US of A.

In any case, I'm not here to defend China. I actually reposted this story before Markjo let me know it was already being discussed. I see it as information to be discussed or merely taken in, not affirmation in one way or the other.

Try some agnosticism, it's healthy.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 05:16:04 PM »

How are you having a hard time understanding this? Your example paints me as someone who would just let it slide. Your political tactics seem to even slip into upper fora discussion I gather.

I'll be even more clear...

We (as in you and me) do not know if China just landed on the moon or not.  <---- FACT

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 04:58:12 PM »

If China faked a space mission in front of a world audience, which was supposed to be an incremental step of technological achievement, then how are we supposed to trust them on this next achievement of which very little media was released?

I agree, lack of trust is warranted. Does it mean it didn't happen? I'm afraid not. This is where you and I differ. You tend to make absolute judgements about things like this... China, rocks, squirrels.

Conspiracy theorists just really reach at straws with no factual basis and tons of conjecture.

So let me clear... I'm not saying that China just successfully landed on the moon but for some reason, you want to imply that they didn't.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 04:48:00 PM »

old man, let me be clear. I think China was faking it too. I think there may be a minority that does give a crap about it but such accusations are in no way in the hearts and hive-like minds of society.

Great, then we can discount this "moon landing" as additional propaganda and need not discuss the matter further.

not really. This is the same thing you've done countless times.

A fake moon rock exists > All moon rocks are fake

A moon rock kinda sorta looks like a squirrel > All moon pictures are fake

Hollywood can make realistic movies about space > All space videos are made by Hollywood

China desperately faked a moon walk > China will never get to the moon

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 04:42:04 PM »

old man, let me be clear. I think China was faking it too. I think there may be a minority that does give a crap about it but such accusations are in no way in the hearts and hive-like minds of society.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Moon shrimp data

« on: December 14, 2013, 04:22:02 PM »

Did you expect the paparazzi to be there to photograph the landing or something?
Also: http://english.cntv.cn/special/lunarmission/index.shtml

Actual video evidence would be nice in the face of their space walk controversy.

While I agree that the space walk videos were highly suspect, calling them a controversy is pretty off-base.

OH THE... outrage???

Stop the presses! Youtube commenters and conspiracy theorist websites alike are in an uproar over China's alleged fake space walks.

Nobody really cares.

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Flat Earth Community / BREAKING: Cooling system fails on the space station.

« on: December 11, 2013, 11:09:13 PM »

Astronauts are safe, but NASA describes the situation as "urgent."

International Space Station: ISS Has ‘Urgent Situation’ After Cooling System Fails http://epochtim.es/iHBB

Reports on Wednesday say that the International Space Station’s cooling system has failed, leading to an urgent situation.

NBC News broke the story at around 5:45 p.m. EST.

The station is conserving power and NASA is hoping that software on board the ISS can fix the problem.

If the problem is not fixed, a spacewalk might be required.

NBC reported that none of the astronauts on board the spacecraft are in harm’s way.

Other details were not made immediately clear.