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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 29, 2021, 10:11:30 AM »

25 burials/week to 120/week during the outbreak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/hart-island-mass-graves-coronavirus-new-york/2020/04/16/a0c413ee-7f5f-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html

Apology accepted.

Apology declined and rejected.

Posting a high number compared to an average (growing from an average of 25 per week to 120 at its highest) like the Washington POS newspaper did, and like you are trying to foist as legitimate, doesn't cut the mustard and is typical of the shitbag style of argumentation you normally engage in.

2,334 were buried there in 2020, compared to 846 the prior year.

I don't know how 846 times 5 = 2334, but I am positive your excellent math skills can clue everyone in as to how to do it.

This was during the outbreak in NYC, as I said.  The numbers you cite are entirely consistent with a massive outbreak that subsequently tapers off.  That one short period caused the number to triple from the prior year, you conveniently ignore that.  It's too bad you have to engage in a host of bad faith fallacies to try and squeeze your narrative in to a box you find palatable.

Who was the one who stated it increased five-fold?

The only palatable boxes being offered up (and how you find twisting numbers to be palatable, I have no clue, but it is your typical BS way, so you must love it) is by you.

You can continue with your BS, but do not be surprised when you are called out for it.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 28, 2021, 05:53:10 PM »

The red line you have drawn is what I am referring to.

I believe the red line you drew is roughly the same length as the distance between A-C.

Can you tell us why? Have you identified any features or landmarks which would show the distance on the surface?

I think I have a few reference points, but I'm not complete on it. Later.

I believe it to be roughly the same length because it appears to be the same length.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 05:51:05 PM »

25 burials/week to 120/week during the outbreak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/hart-island-mass-graves-coronavirus-new-york/2020/04/16/a0c413ee-7f5f-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html

Apology accepted.

Apology declined and rejected.

Posting a high number compared to an average (growing from an average of 25 per week to 120 at its highest) like the Washington POS newspaper did, and like you are trying to foist as legitimate, doesn't cut the mustard and is typical of the shitbag style of argumentation you normally engage in.

2,334 were buried there in 2020, compared to 846 the prior year.

I don't know how 846 times 5 = 2334, but I am positive your excellent math skills can clue everyone in as to how to do it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 04:43:25 PM »

So no evidence. Thanks for clarifying.

There is no evidence of mass graves for Covid victims in New York.

"The mayor stressed that even the most recent burials on the island are not necessarily always related to the pandemic."

Those graves were for prisoners and unclaimed bodies.

Those graves saw a fivefold increase in burials in the months after the pandemic started. Surely. SURELY a coincidence.

Number One - Just like MSM, you are implying the graves were dug to bury those who died of Covid. They were not graves dug to bury people who died of Covid.

Two, the gravesite where the unclaimed dead are buried is on Hart Island. It has been in use for over 150 years.

Three, a fivefold increase = what specific number?

Go ahead, clearly and legibly type that number here and shock the bejesus out of everybody reading the thread.

I dare you. Write that number for all to see.

Betcha can't.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 03:59:39 PM »

So no evidence. Thanks for clarifying.

There is no evidence of mass graves for Covid victims in New York.

"The mayor stressed that even the most recent burials on the island are not necessarily always related to the pandemic."

Those graves were for prisoners and unclaimed bodies.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 28, 2021, 03:53:46 PM »

I am stating that if the distance you claim for A-C is 150km, the distance for the chord that could be drawn for intersecting the surface below the arc depicted in the picture would be approximately the same distance, rendering your analysis faulty.

Are you talking about the chord below the arc you described across the picture, like this;



... or the chord below my line A-C?

The red line you have drawn is what I am referring to.

I did not see a chord you drew for A-C.

I believe the red line you drew is roughly the same length as the distance between A-C.

If it is, I believe that renders your analysis faulty.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 03:52:12 PM »

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?

What outlandish claim?

"Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners." (implying they weren't for COVID victims)

The mass grave story in New York was manufactured by MSM.

The photo accompanying that story was of the back of a semi trailer which was at the grave site and was taken in the late 1990's, at the grave site designed to service Riker's Island.

No mass graves were dug for Covid victims in New York.

Yes, this is the outlandish claim. Rama didn't ask for clarification, or more detail, he asked for evidence. Do you have it?

The outlandish claim was made by MSM when they published the photo of the semi-trailer and body bags, making an attempt to state the picture depicted mass grave burials made for Covid victims.

The story of mass graves in New York due to Covid victims is false.

It was debunked then and it remains debunked.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 01:58:16 PM »

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?

What outlandish claim?

"Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners." (implying they weren't for COVID victims)

The mass grave story in New York was manufactured by MSM.

The photo accompanying that story was of the back of a semi trailer which was at the grave site and was taken in the late 1990's, at the grave site designed to service Riker's Island.

No mass graves were dug for Covid victims in New York.

Stupid, inane trump bs.

Aren't you lost, little boy?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 01:07:11 PM »

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?

What outlandish claim?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 11:54:38 AM »

Well,  graves are dug so that dead bodies can be deposited underground. In this case, “mass” doesn’t refer to the amount of matter measured in kilograms (stop me if it gets too technical for you) but rather because the grave is meant to contain a multitude of corpses.

If you wish to learn more about how long humans have been burying humans en masse (that’s French, sorry if that’s too much), I suggest browsing this page for a quick primer.

^Brings up the subject about Mass Graves in New York.

Asked to provide the real reason of what said mass grave was actually for (Nothing to do with Covid, by the way).

Provides the above response instead.

Those mass graves were for incarcerated prisoners.

ICU's were not over capacity.

It was the internet bots reporting overcapacity that were actively at work.
 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 11:35:56 AM »

Action “Public Health Expert” 69

Obviously analyzing any decision with 20/20 hindsight is idiotic, especially with the chaos in NYC in the first months. Remember, there were mass graves being dug there and ICUs that were taxed way beyond capacity.

Hopefully, the actual experts will learn from this and develop improved policies and responses.

Why don't you tell us all why the "mass graves," were being dug and for how long that process has been in place?

Jesus, you too, another one of the foisters of the lie.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 28, 2021, 10:56:10 AM »

So, you are claiming the arc I described is 150 km of the sphere, forming a 20 - 25 degree portion of the entire globe?

No, I'm showing the approx size of the spherical cap in total is 20-25 degrees, as I said, casually ESTIMATED from the images, but as I edited above, calculating it results in approx 12 degrees.

I have not assessed the arc you described. What landmarks do you see that would help us in this respect? Do you agree with the landmarks I have shown, and the approximate distances between them?

I am stating that if the distance you claim for A-C is 150km, the distance for the chord that could be drawn for intersecting the surface below the arc depicted in the picture would be approximately the same distance, rendering your analysis faulty.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 28, 2021, 10:38:27 AM »

But this was clearly a situation which demanded a response.

Yes, the proper response would have been to not count a death as a covid death just because of the presence of covid and for all of the morons to shutter themselves in their own homes of their own free will and accord.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 27, 2021, 04:01:08 PM »

^Imagine living in a world where an appeal to numbers makes you right and a greater good could possibly exist.

Are you against facts, and are you promoting selfishness?  Because thats what this statement looks like to me.

He was a Trump supporter. This tracks.

He's also admitted to being incredibly greedy and selfish in the past (see my sig). So yeah, this is what we're dealing with. This is why we're seeing surging numbers now. Selfish people like Lackey who say fuck the greater good, it's every man for himself. That's what makes it so easy to blame him, his attitude is (at this point) expressly one of extreme selfishness.

Your sig is an indicator of poor reading comprehension.

There is no such thing as the greater good.

Every person is solely responsible for themselves and themselves alone.

I don't want your idiocy anywhere around me.

Like I said, keep blaming me for something that hasn't happened.

I will firmly blame you and the others here for something that has happened, the deaths of my brother-in-law and my sister.

You and the like-minded here, promoting the BS approach in response to this virus.

You are all promoting a lie.

The only BS in the approach was trying to appease both interests. You’re too bitter about your families deaths to admit that. Lockdowns are not BS, but half-assed ones are.

Full lockdowns are BS too.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 27, 2021, 03:56:12 PM »

Well, thanks to the Delta surge, the CDC is recommending vaccinated people to start wearing masks indoors again. Thanks, lackey. 

They're vaccinated.

Protected.

The mask will protect them and you at the nearly 70 percent failure rate it had the first time.

I will continue to say "you're welcome," every time you thank me for something.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 27, 2021, 03:30:47 PM »

So, you are claiming that nearly 180 arc of a 360 degree sphere only takes 150 km worth of land to form. If you are claiming a spherical cap can be visually detected

No, I'm not claiming that at all. The cameras upon the craft absolutely could not "see" 180 degrees of the globe, that's the whole point. The waters of the Pacific, Gulf of California, Gulf of Mexico, etc. are not in view because an observer at that height cannot see beyond the spherical cap below him.

I showed the circle over New Mexico which depicts the approximate size of the spherical cap.

I estimate from my diagrams that includes around around 20 - 25 degrees or so of latitude and longitude. Nowhere near 180

So, you are claiming the arc I described is 150 km of the sphere, forming a 20 - 25 degree portion of the entire globe?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 27, 2021, 03:28:56 PM »

^Imagine living in a world where an appeal to numbers makes you right and a greater good could possibly exist.

Are you against facts, and are you promoting selfishness?  Because thats what this statement looks like to me.

He was a Trump supporter. This tracks.

He's also admitted to being incredibly greedy and selfish in the past (see my sig). So yeah, this is what we're dealing with. This is why we're seeing surging numbers now. Selfish people like Lackey who say fuck the greater good, it's every man for himself. That's what makes it so easy to blame him, his attitude is (at this point) expressly one of extreme selfishness.

Your sig is an indicator of poor reading comprehension.

There is no such thing as the greater good.

Every person is solely responsible for themselves and themselves alone.

I don't want your idiocy anywhere around me.

Like I said, keep blaming me for something that hasn't happened.

I will firmly blame you and the others here for something that has happened, the deaths of my brother-in-law and my sister.

You and the like-minded here, promoting the BS approach in response to this virus.

You are all promoting a lie.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 27, 2021, 03:21:19 PM »

^Imagine living in a world where an appeal to numbers makes you right and a greater good could possibly exist.

Are you against facts, and are you promoting selfishness?  Because thats what this statement looks like to me.

I am for facts, more so than you.

Your decided and evident tendency has been historically to believe in and merely echo the majority (i.e., lazy), much like your peanut sitting next to you.

As far as selfishness, I am responsible for me.

No one else is responsible for me.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 27, 2021, 03:14:10 PM »

The distance between points A and C is of the order of 150 km.

A1 to A2 is around 30 - 35km

Look at the circle around the launch site that I posted above, and you can see that the Carson Forest and associated darker greenery is around half to 2/3rd of the way toward the edge of the circle; which tallies with the view from the capsule. There's still some land visible to the horizon beyond point C.

By all means, if anyone sees any inconsistency in this, please say so.

Yeah, the photo is altered to depict an arc of a sphere extending from an inch or so directly left of Baumgardner's head, up and over his head, to a point intersecting with the capsule (top of entrance). The total length of that arc cannot be much more than what you list for the distance between A - C, or 150 km.

So, you are claiming that nearly 180 arc of a 360 degree sphere only takes 150 km worth of land to form.

If you are claiming a spherical cap can be visually detected

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: July 26, 2021, 06:57:39 PM »

^Imagine living in a world where an appeal to numbers makes you right and a greater good could possibly exist.