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Technology & Information / T minus 5 minutes to launch
« on: May 30, 2020, 07:18:21 PM »
Space x launch in 5 minutes. Flat earthers tune in!
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Flat Earth Theory / International Space Station
« on: May 16, 2020, 03:42:20 AM »
With even a simple telescope, it's possible to see the international space station zoom through the sky, if only for a moment. The outline is very clear, and depending on the quality of the optics, atmospheric conditions, etc., quite a lot of detail can be made out.
This, on top of the fact that you can get the precise location of it at any given time, is pretty damning evidence for a flat earth.
How does the flat earth hypothesis explain the consistency of the ISS orbit and the easily obtained details when viewed through a telescope?
If not in orbit, it is propelled by a force other than gravity, and if so, what is this force? There needs to be at least three forces at work for it to rotate in a circle above the plane. And upward force to keep it suspended, and at a minimum two forces to move it in a circular fashion. Conventional fuel burning would need eventual refueling, which doesn't occur.
It cannot be a mere weather balloon as I've seen suggested by some FE'rs, and I don't think any explanation given by flat earth hypothesis will follow the Zetetic method, but I hope to be shown otherwise!
Also, the myriad other satellites need an explanation although it's usually harder to discern visual details on them, given their various respective sizes and distances from the earth.
This, on top of the fact that you can get the precise location of it at any given time, is pretty damning evidence for a flat earth.
How does the flat earth hypothesis explain the consistency of the ISS orbit and the easily obtained details when viewed through a telescope?
If not in orbit, it is propelled by a force other than gravity, and if so, what is this force? There needs to be at least three forces at work for it to rotate in a circle above the plane. And upward force to keep it suspended, and at a minimum two forces to move it in a circular fashion. Conventional fuel burning would need eventual refueling, which doesn't occur.
It cannot be a mere weather balloon as I've seen suggested by some FE'rs, and I don't think any explanation given by flat earth hypothesis will follow the Zetetic method, but I hope to be shown otherwise!
Also, the myriad other satellites need an explanation although it's usually harder to discern visual details on them, given their various respective sizes and distances from the earth.
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Flat Earth Theory / Zeteticism
« on: December 07, 2019, 07:53:38 AM »
From the wiki,
"Zeteticism differs from the usual scientific method in that using zeteticism one bases his conclusions on experimentation and observation rather than on an initial theory that is to be proved or disproved. A zetetic forms the question then immediately sets to work making observations and performing experiments to answer that question, rather than speculating on what the answer might be then testing that out."
First of all, I'd like to be slightly pedantic and point out that, in the scientific method, one doesn't initially form a theory. The first step is a hypothesis, I think that might be the term you intended.
Second, I wanted to ask some FE'rs who believe things like Universal Acceleration while claiming to follow the zetetic method, how do these beliefs not conflict with each other?
"Zeteticism differs from the usual scientific method in that using zeteticism one bases his conclusions on experimentation and observation rather than on an initial theory that is to be proved or disproved. A zetetic forms the question then immediately sets to work making observations and performing experiments to answer that question, rather than speculating on what the answer might be then testing that out."
First of all, I'd like to be slightly pedantic and point out that, in the scientific method, one doesn't initially form a theory. The first step is a hypothesis, I think that might be the term you intended.
Second, I wanted to ask some FE'rs who believe things like Universal Acceleration while claiming to follow the zetetic method, how do these beliefs not conflict with each other?
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Flat Earth Theory / Planetary Phases
« on: July 14, 2019, 12:24:52 AM »
I've scoured the forums, and while I've seen multiple threads dedicated to the planets, I haven't seen this particular phenomenon addressed.
Indeed, most of the planetary questions have gone unanswered, so I doubt to get a satisfactory response, but perhaps some of you FE'rs can share your opinions and shed some light (pun intended) on this for me.
I was wondering (I know there are 20 different models) how the flat earth model(s) account for the phases of the planets.
The Helioentric model of the solar system accounts for them perfectly. The only two planets to exhibit full phases (similar to our own moon) are the two planets closer to the sun than us, Mercury and Venus. In fact, we can observe these inner 2 planets transit between earth and the sun. Mercury will transit in November of this year, while Venus unfortunately won't transit again until 2117.
The outer planets do not exhibit these full phases, nor do they transit between the earth and the sun.
It's relatively straightforward geometry from a heliocentric standpoint. Thoughts?
Indeed, most of the planetary questions have gone unanswered, so I doubt to get a satisfactory response, but perhaps some of you FE'rs can share your opinions and shed some light (pun intended) on this for me.
I was wondering (I know there are 20 different models) how the flat earth model(s) account for the phases of the planets.
The Helioentric model of the solar system accounts for them perfectly. The only two planets to exhibit full phases (similar to our own moon) are the two planets closer to the sun than us, Mercury and Venus. In fact, we can observe these inner 2 planets transit between earth and the sun. Mercury will transit in November of this year, while Venus unfortunately won't transit again until 2117.
The outer planets do not exhibit these full phases, nor do they transit between the earth and the sun.
It's relatively straightforward geometry from a heliocentric standpoint. Thoughts?
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