The Flat Earth Society

The Flat Earth Society => Suggestions & Concerns => Topic started by: rooster on December 04, 2013, 06:48:34 PM

Title: FES Video
Post by: rooster on December 04, 2013, 06:48:34 PM
I'll get this rolling with its own thread. I suggested that if we want more traffic we should make a video that links back to this site and start posting it around.

So far we have Pizza Planet willing to edit the video.
Thork (or possibly Crudblud) can do the voice over.
And Spoon offered to provide background music.

Maybe we could work on the script together here. Now what kind of video should this be? Should this video describe the FES as a whole and the movement up until this point?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: jroa on December 04, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
Great idea.  Moving to S&C since it is such a great suggestion. 
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Alchemist21 on December 04, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
This is a wonderful idea.  The vid should also include a brief overview of some basic points in FET as well as dispel any misconceptions the general public may have about the FES, such as religious affiliation.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Sean on December 04, 2013, 07:27:18 PM
I suggest for a title "*LEAK* *RARE* *NEW* *GIRLS KISSING* flat earth society" to maximise veiw potential.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: DuckDodgers on December 04, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
What about a video version of a debunk of the Minute Physics video noobs like to post?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on December 04, 2013, 09:52:20 PM
What about a video version of a debunk of the Minute Physics video noobs like to post?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: rooster on December 04, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
What about a video version of a debunk of the Minute Physics video noobs like to post?
That could also work, but it should come after the initial video. The more videos the more traffic.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 07, 2013, 05:29:16 AM
I'll get this rolling with its own thread. I suggested that if we want more traffic we should make a video that links back to this site and start posting it around.

So far we have Pizza Planet willing to edit the video.
Thork (or possibly Crudblud) can do the voice over.
And Spoon offered to provide background music.

Maybe we could work on the script together here. Now what kind of video should this be? Should this video describe the FES as a whole and the movement up until this point?
Ooh I reley like that idea we should come out with an oficiel video!!! :D Good luck on this and im here if any help is needed we must spred FET to the literel ends of the earth!
I suggest for a title "*LEAK* *RARE* *NEW* *GIRLS KISSING* flat earth society" to maximise veiw potential.
Lolz ;D
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Tom Bishop on December 07, 2013, 03:49:12 PM
We should first make a transcript and/or story board sketches and run it past the community to discuss.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: junker on December 07, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
We should first make a transcript and/or story board sketches and run it past the community to discuss.

Agree.

We need to prioritize content and try to set some timeframes when we can have them done.  I fear that if we try too many things at once, we won't end up producing enough content.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on December 07, 2013, 04:12:51 PM
I suggest we simply have crudblud/thork explain the theory at a basic level while an animation of his narrations plays. We should all write up a brief summary of flat earth theory in our own words and post it here to compare. Whichever we like the best will be what crudblud/thork reads. I'm assuming PP (?) will create the animation.

So for now, let's all get started summarizing FET in an entertaining way. Personally, I don't think we should include a single thing about RET in this video. We shouldn't go into the conspiracy or explain how FET compares to RET. We want this video to be bold. If viewers, get mad about it, good. That means they'll come to the site and post.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 07, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
I'm assuming PP (?) will create the animation.
I can't really do animation. I'm fairly good at video editing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs-eMEI9Uc8), and I can do simple graphical design, but I can't draw.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on December 07, 2013, 04:16:35 PM
Are we going for an animation? If not, what will the video consist of?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 07, 2013, 04:17:39 PM
I think an animation of some sort would probably be best. Heck, I could probably try to do it. I'm just a bit worried that I'd fail miserably.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Hoppy on December 07, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
I don't think animation is necessary, someone explaining the basics at a chalk board or paper easel would be informative. Having a real person talking would be nice. He/ she could show the website on the video. Animation seems like it would be harder to produce than a plain old video recording of a live person. Rooster would be a good person to do the video (she is closest thing we have to a FE fox)
 On the other hand, what person would want to put their self up as a FE believer to the world. Animation may be the way to go.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 07, 2013, 08:25:24 PM
I don't think animation is necessary, someone explaining the basics at a chalk board or paper easel would be informative. Having a real person talking would be nice. He/ she could show the website on the video. Animation seems like it would be harder to produce than a plain old video recording of a live person. Rooster would be a good person to do the video (she is closest thing we have to a FE fox)
 On the other hand, what person would want to put their self up as a FE believer to the world. Animation may be the way to go.
I reley like that idea hoppy. Ive always loved those comerciels where someone will be explaning something like writing about it in a board and quickley drawing animations (like the glass is half full/emptey comerciel)

On a side note rooster is a girl? And whats an FE fox
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: jroa on December 07, 2013, 08:26:50 PM
A person (Crudblud or Thork) could use their voice in the video without compromising their anonymity. 

I was thinking an animation in the style of Minute Physics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0_vWDfJwQ).  We would need to write a script, have one person record it, and then have another artsy type draw the animations. 
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on December 07, 2013, 08:31:09 PM
A person (Crudblud or Thork) could use their voice in the video without compromising their anonymity. 

I was thinking an animation in the style of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0_vWDfJwQ (http://Minute Physics).  We would need to write a script, have one person record it, and then have another artsy type draw the animations. 

That's basically what I was thinking too. Minute physics videos are interesting. They get the point across and it's fun to watch. Add in a voice like Crudblud's and we'll go viral.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 07, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
A person (Crudblud or Thork) could use their voice in the video without compromising their anonymity. 

I was thinking an animation in the style of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0_vWDfJwQ (http://Minute Physics).  We would need to write a script, have one person record it, and then have another artsy type draw the animations. 

That's basically what I was thinking too. Minute physics videos are interesting. They get the point across and it's fun to watch. Add in a voice like Crudblud's and we'll go viral.
What does crudbluds voice sound like?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Sean on December 07, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
I think there should be an American voice in the video. Not mine, though.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: junker on December 07, 2013, 09:55:28 PM
I think there should be an American voice in the video. Not mine, though.

No, Crudblud's voice is amazing.  Thork's is a bit feminine, but acceptable.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Sean on December 07, 2013, 09:58:33 PM
I mean to complement Crudblud. I've heard his awesome readings
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: rooster on December 07, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
I am not enough of an authority to be in the video. The only thing I could possibly do is model shirts if we ever make those. But I'm not much of a fox just pretty average.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Thork on December 07, 2013, 10:42:45 PM
I don't care if its crudblud's or mine. I'm happy to do it.

If you like, we can both do it and you guys can pick the one you think suits the video the best. Its not like its going to take very long if I'm just reading from a script.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 07, 2013, 11:10:45 PM
I think there should be an American voice in the video. Not mine, though.
You what, mate? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY)

On a more serious note, I was thinking I could work on a short intro we could use in our videos consistently. Something like the first 8 seconds of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRJZbNmC7U). Do people think this would be a good idea?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Thork on December 07, 2013, 11:11:42 PM
On a more serious note, I was thinking I could work on a short intro we could use in our videos consistently. Something like the first 8 seconds of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRJZbNmC7U). Do people think this would be a good idea?
Its a very good idea.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Foxbox on December 07, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
I think there should be an American voice in the video. Not mine, though.
You what, mate? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY)

On a more serious note, I was thinking I could work on a short intro we could use in our videos consistently. Something like the first 8 seconds of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRJZbNmC7U). Do people think this would be a good idea?

I think it is a great idea. I'd love to see what you make.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Hoppy on December 08, 2013, 12:03:12 AM
I am not enough of an authority to be in the video. The only thing I could possibly do is model shirts if we ever make those. But I'm not much of a fox just pretty average.
You are the closest thing we have to a resident fox. If you were in the video it would at least prove that not all of the internet is guys. A good looking girl would spark more interest than any guy will. At least a small clip in the video promoting FE, would probably do wonders. That is if you don't mind putting yourself out there on the net.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Snupes on December 08, 2013, 12:23:19 AM
I agree with it being an animation with no actual person in the video. Those are simply much more interesting to most of the internet, I think, whereas showing an actual person with a chalkboard is probably going to look comparatively amateur and kinda shoddy. Think slightly grainy, poor acoustics (almost definitely) that makes it seem filmed by some student for a school project...which is really just more a case of I doubt Rooster has professional recording equipment.

Whereas with a smaller animation and simply a voice-over, all we really need is an animator and a good microphone (which Crudblud might have, I don't know?).

Another important thing, I think, that a lot of people overlook, is that we should make sure to check the voice-over first. Moreso if Thork does it—no offense, it's just that Crudblud seems more like he'd be more inclined towards professional-sounding readings. I'd done acting and voice-over stuff in school for years, so I get overly critical about this stuff and get really upset with amateur readings where it's clearly from a script. :P
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Foxbox on December 08, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
I agree with it being an animation with no actual person in the video. Those are simply much more interesting to most of the internet, I think, whereas showing an actual person with a chalkboard is probably going to look comparatively amateur and kinda shoddy. Think slightly grainy, poor acoustics (almost definitely) that makes it seem filmed by some student for a school project...which is really just more a case of I doubt Rooster has professional recording equipment.

Whereas with a smaller animation and simply a voice-over, all we really need is an animator and a good microphone (which Crudblud might have, I don't know?).

Another important thing, I think, that a lot of people overlook, is that we should make sure to check the voice-over first. Moreso if Thork does it—no offense, it's just that Crudblud seems more like he'd be more inclined towards professional-sounding readings. I'd done acting and voice-over stuff in school for years, so I get overly critical about this stuff and get really upset with amateur readings where it's clearly from a script. :P

I agree with all of this.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 08, 2013, 12:48:14 AM
I could donate my voice if given a scrip
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Thork on December 08, 2013, 12:55:24 AM
I could donate my voice if given a scrip
You could donate both your kidneys, but I'm still not sure we'd want them.  :P

Do you have any talents we can use? Can you draw? Animate? design? Write? Oh wait, no you can't write.

We need to build our repository up. Are you good with google? We need flat earth sources and materials. Anything unusual about our history or flat earth theory is welcomed. We have the basics covered so we need the more rare links and info.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 08, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
I could donate my voice if given a scrip
You could donate both your kidneys, but I'm still not sure we'd want them.  :P
You dont even know what I flippin sound like th*rk! >:(
Do you have any talents we can use? Can you draw? Animate? design? Write? Oh wait, no you can't write.
Who are you to call me out for breking rules in FES when your breking the rule of being the d word. Screw off I dont need this and I can write and quite well actuley
We need to build our repository up. Are you good with google? We need flat earth sources and materials. Anything unusual about our history or flat earth theory is welcomed. We have the basics covered so we need the more rare links and info.
I could serch up some links :-B
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Thork on December 08, 2013, 01:10:41 AM
Do you have any talents we can use? Can you draw? Animate? design? Write? Oh wait, no you can't write.
Who are you to call me out for breking rules in FES when your breking the rule of being the d word. Screw off I dont need this and I can write and quite well actuley

I don't even ...

You know the things we are trying to acheive. If you can help, we will be grateful for that help.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: rooster on December 08, 2013, 01:53:54 AM
I agree with it being an animation with no actual person in the video. Those are simply much more interesting to most of the internet, I think, whereas showing an actual person with a chalkboard is probably going to look comparatively amateur and kinda shoddy. Think slightly grainy, poor acoustics (almost definitely) that makes it seem filmed by some student for a school project...which is really just more a case of I doubt Rooster has professional recording equipment.

Whereas with a smaller animation and simply a voice-over, all we really need is an animator and a good microphone (which Crudblud might have, I don't know?).

Another important thing, I think, that a lot of people overlook, is that we should make sure to check the voice-over first. Moreso if Thork does it—no offense, it's just that Crudblud seems more like he'd be more inclined towards professional-sounding readings. I'd done acting and voice-over stuff in school for years, so I get overly critical about this stuff and get really upset with amateur readings where it's clearly from a script. :P
I don't even have a board of any kind to write on. I'm definitely not going to be the face of the FES, I'm here for the community. There's no way I was going to be in a video.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Snupes on December 08, 2013, 02:35:24 AM
Yeah, that'd be a big responsibility anyway...you'd be the national face, people would refer to and think of you whenever thinking about the Flat Earth Society at all. :P
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on December 08, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
I'm assuming there are others with a good mic, but I could try the reading as well. I have a good mic and I have a pretty dynamic voice, of course not comparable to Crudbluds or Thorks  :P, but I'll try it if need be.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 08, 2013, 04:37:18 PM
Do you have any talents we can use? Can you draw? Animate? design? Write? Oh wait, no you can't write.
Who are you to call me out for breking rules in FES when your breking the rule of being the d word. Screw off I dont need this and I can write and quite well actuley

I don't even ...

You know the things we are trying to acheive. If you can help, we will be grateful for that help.
You dont even what?

And yes I would vary like to give you as much help as posible :)
Yeah, that'd be a big responsibility anyway...you'd be the national face, people would refer to and think of you whenever thinking about the Flat Earth Society at all. :P
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me :)
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Roundy on December 08, 2013, 04:58:59 PM
We should use EJ, he might help us get some more black people on the forums.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 08, 2013, 05:13:54 PM
We should use EJ, he might help us get some more black people on the forums.
AFRICAN AMERICAN!!! And yes we should. I would be happy to lend my voice
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Roundy on December 08, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
We should use EJ, he might help us get some more black people on the forums.
AFRICAN AMERICAN!!! And yes we should. I would be happy to lend my voice

I don't think we should restrict membership to black people from the Americas, it seems a bit racist.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 08, 2013, 05:16:24 PM
We should use EJ, he might help us get some more black people on the forums.
AFRICAN AMERICAN!!! And yes we should. I would be happy to lend my voice

I don't think we should restrict membership to black people from the Americas, it seems a bit racist.
Whatever African canadein or African chinese watever
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Crudblud on December 13, 2013, 05:13:20 PM
I agree with it being an animation with no actual person in the video. Those are simply much more interesting to most of the internet, I think, whereas showing an actual person with a chalkboard is probably going to look comparatively amateur and kinda shoddy. Think slightly grainy, poor acoustics (almost definitely) that makes it seem filmed by some student for a school project...which is really just more a case of I doubt Rooster has professional recording equipment.

Whereas with a smaller animation and simply a voice-over, all we really need is an animator and a good microphone (which Crudblud might have, I don't know?).

Another important thing, I think, that a lot of people overlook, is that we should make sure to check the voice-over first. Moreso if Thork does it—no offense, it's just that Crudblud seems more like he'd be more inclined towards professional-sounding readings. I'd done acting and voice-over stuff in school for years, so I get overly critical about this stuff and get really upset with amateur readings where it's clearly from a script. :P

I completely forgot this thread existed. My microphone is not exactly high end, but it is clean enough with the right settings. As for the voice-over coming across scripted, it's not just the reading but the text itself that heavily influences this, if it's clunky and unnatural even the best orator (which I am certainly not) is going to have a bad time with it, so I would also like to volunteer my services as a script doctor. I don't want to get in on anyone else's part in this project, but I can do words good and I have a feeling we might end up with some "data node" type sentences which will need to be parsed into more fluid language to come out at all "naturally."
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Snupes on December 14, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
I would be very happy with that, actually. Having the same person who's speaking it actually put it into their words would help that greatly. What kind of approach are we going for and how do we want to come off, exactly?
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: jroa on December 14, 2013, 12:16:59 AM
I agree.  Make it sound natural. 
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Excelsior John on December 17, 2013, 02:51:02 AM
Hows proces been going on the video so far?
I agree.  Make it sound natural. 
Agreed. I always find it wierd when they put a robo robot voice in a video
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: man-bear-man on December 18, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
There should be real world references, and Satire
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Crudblud on February 11, 2014, 04:24:48 AM
Let's (try to) get the ball rolling again...

I would be very happy with that, actually. Having the same person who's speaking it actually put it into their words would help that greatly. What kind of approach are we going for and how do we want to come off, exactly?
I think it should be something informative and humorous, balanced so that the humour is a way into the meat of the presentation, rather than a comedy routine based on FET. But we should be aiming high, instead of settling for some cheesy "edutainment" kind of thing, unless of course we do it in a kind of postmodern way where it's part of the comic element. That's just my preference, hopefully others will have suggestions too.

Also man-bear-man's idea is a good one. Reference humour, even if it's just aiming for "oh hey, I've heard of that," is a good way to break the ice in something like this.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 12, 2014, 06:21:15 AM
a good way to break the ice wall in something like this.
olololol fixed

On a more serious note, I think the best start would be a video that introduces the Society, without necessarily getting into the meat of the subject. The main purpose would be to attract people to the site. We could then focus on short videos on isolated subjects, or maybe something general.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: spoon on February 13, 2014, 12:00:20 AM
a good way to break the ice wall in something like this.
olololol fixed

On a more serious note, I think the best start would be a video that introduces the Society, without necessarily getting into the meat of the subject. The main purpose would be to attract people to the site. We could then focus on short videos on isolated subjects, or maybe something general.

I agree. I think it should be a minute long reading of a general overview of the society and theory with site info at the end. No questions should really be answered in the video. That's what this site is for.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Vongeo on February 13, 2014, 12:54:09 AM
And I'll write the script.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Hoppy on February 14, 2014, 01:00:53 PM
And I'll write the script.
This is a good way to insure that no questions will be answered.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Crudblud on February 15, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
And I'll write the script.
This is a good way to insure that no questions will be answered.
At least we'll be insured.

a good way to break the ice wall in something like this.
olololol fixed

On a more serious note, I think the best start would be a video that introduces the Society, without necessarily getting into the meat of the subject. The main purpose would be to attract people to the site. We could then focus on short videos on isolated subjects, or maybe something general.

This seems like a good course of action.
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 17, 2014, 11:21:29 AM
I kind of wanna hire this guy to tell everyone that the Earth is flat:
http://fiverr.com/greatgigsguy3/do-a-testimonial-video-at-my-desk-with-monitor
Title: Re: FES Video
Post by: Crudblud on February 22, 2014, 11:04:15 AM
I kind of wanna hire this guy to tell everyone that the Earth is flat:
http://fiverr.com/greatgigsguy3/do-a-testimonial-video-at-my-desk-with-monitor
I think we should get the "will a earth round or will he flat" guy instead, personally.