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Title: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on November 30, 2015, 07:45:15 PM
Before anyone asks, I do believe that computers exist because I am currently using one.  We are just being lied to about how they work.  We are told that computers use quantum mechanics and the laws of electricity to work but those are all built on Newtonian laws which are wrong.

In a computer everything is connected to the magical and illusive "CPU".  Nobody can explain how it works and we are expected to believe that all computing is done in some magical silicon chip the size of a fingernail.  Have you ever tried to break into a CPU?  Even a hack saw can't penetrate that case, it's as if they are trying to hide something.  These companies have a lot of secrecy surrounding them, which is definitely suspicious.  I have looked it up and it turns out that Intel and other "tech" companies are censoring this stuff from the Internet because they don't want us to know it.

Only living things can think and reason, inanimate objects like rocks cannot think and reason.  So why is it that computers, which we are told are inanimate, can think and reason?  It just doesn't add up.  If you ask a rock what 2+2 is then it wouldn't do anything but if I hold the home button and ask Siri what 2+2 is IT will respond "4".  Aperently a the Wizards at Intel can use fictional physics to defy nature and people actually buy into that crap.

So how do computers work?  It's a lot simpler then the mess of wires and magical microscopic switches Intel wants you to think is there.  They trap spirits and force them to do a bunch of logic.  Have you ever wondered why programming is called "programming throry"?  If people invented programming as we are lead to believe then why is it just a theory?  Answer: because they didn't invent programming and in reality it's the language spirits speak.  I still can't believe that people don't question it when Intel says that machines can read, understand what it read, and do what it's told.  They say that computers always do what they are told but inanimate objects don't do that, if you don't believe me then tell stick to throw it's self to you and tell a gun to shoot you.  They won't do it because they are inanimate objects, but the little squares of silicon Intel makes aperently defy this and they will do your taxes and pay your bills for you if you want.  What a joke.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: markjo on November 30, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
Before anyone asks, I do believe that computers exist because I am currently using one.  We are just being lied to about how they work.
It isn't important to understand how computers work, only how to work them.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on November 30, 2015, 09:05:51 PM
We are just being lied to about how they work.  We are told that computers use quantum mechanics and the laws of electricity to work but those are all built on Newtonian laws which are wrong.
Yes, whoever is telling you that your computer is a quantum machine, they are lying to you.

In a computer everything is connected to the magical and illusive "CPU".  Nobody can explain how it works and we are expected to believe that all computing is done in some magical silicon chip the size of a fingernail.
A CPU is a compiler, there is a mountain of documents that explain how they work. There are even classes you can take that teach how they work and how to create one.

Only living things can think and reason, inanimate objects like rocks cannot think and reason.  So why is it that computers, which we are told are inanimate, can think and reason?  It just doesn't add up.  If you ask a rock what 2+2 is then it wouldn't do anything but if I hold the home button and ask Siri what 2+2 is IT will respond "4".  Aperently a the Wizards at Intel can use fictional physics to defy nature and people actually buy into that crap.
Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!

So how do computers work?  It's a lot simpler then the mess of wires and magical microscopic switches Intel wants you to think is there.  They trap spirits and force them to do a bunch of logic.  Have you ever wondered why programming is called "programming throry"?  If people invented programming as we are lead to believe then why is it just a theory?  Answer: because they didn't invent programming and in reality it's the language spirits speak.  I still can't believe that people don't question it when Intel says that machines can read, understand what it read, and do what it's told.  They say that computers always do what they are told but inanimate objects don't do that, if you don't believe me then tell stick to throw it's self to you and tell a gun to shoot you.  They won't do it because they are inanimate objects, but the little squares of silicon Intel makes aperently defy this and they will do your taxes and pay your bills for you if you want.  What a joke.
Maybe you should work on your quarter-hearted attempt at FET instead of worrying about people catching 'spirits'. Did we all transport to WH40K?
If that stick or gun were built to be programmed, they could do these things, but at the moment we have no need to program sticks and not too many want guns that are programmed for a specific use.

Before anyone asks, I do believe that computers exist because I am currently using one.  We are just being lied to about how they work.
It isn't important to understand how computers work, only how to work them.
I would say that is is obviously necessarily to have a notion how computers work or you end up with things like this. This is the same as people who don't want to know how a car works and spout that 'gremlins' run our cars.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: markjo on November 30, 2015, 09:28:09 PM
We are just being lied to about how they work.  We are told that computers use quantum mechanics and the laws of electricity to work but those are all built on Newtonian laws which are wrong.
Yes, whoever is telling you that your computer is a quantum machine, they are lying to you.
Using quantum mechanics to design microscopic circuity nearing the atomic scale is not the same as having a quantum machine.

In a computer everything is connected to the magical and illusive "CPU".  Nobody can explain how it works and we are expected to believe that all computing is done in some magical silicon chip the size of a fingernail.
A CPU is a compiler, there is a mountain of documents that explain how they work.
No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

Before anyone asks, I do believe that computers exist because I am currently using one.  We are just being lied to about how they work.
It isn't important to understand how computers work, only how to work them.
I would say that is is obviously necessarily to have a notion how computers work or you end up with things like this. This is the same as people who don't want to know how a car works and spout that 'gremlins' run our cars.
Actually, it's hamsters that run our cars.  Gremlins are the ones who keep the cars from running.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on November 30, 2015, 09:50:21 PM
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No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

But isn't a calculator a type of computer?  Are you telling me that the inside of the Intel mystery chip of magic is a tiny calculator, and inside of the calculator's CPU is another calculator?  Oh, this is priceless.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: mikeman7918 on November 30, 2015, 10:00:12 PM
This sounds a lot like something I put on the flat Earth society as a joke...  I am at a loss for words, I didn't know that this level of ignorence was possible.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on November 30, 2015, 10:02:37 PM

A CPU is a compiler, there is a mountain of documents that explain how they work. [/quote]
No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

A compiler that interprets different languages, compiles the requests, either does the calculation or sends it off to another component to do the calculation(s). Then uncompiles and sends the information out in another language.

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No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

But isn't a calculator a type of computer?  Are you telling me that the inside of the Intel mystery chip of magic is a tiny calculator, and inside of the calculator's CPU is another calculator?  Oh, this is priceless.

Do you really believe that Intel invented the CPU?
Is ya a dumby or just too young to know better?

And if 'spirits' run modern computers; what ran the Babbage machine?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on November 30, 2015, 10:03:30 PM
This sounds a lot like something I put on the flat Earth society as a joke...  I am at a loss for words, I didn't know that this level of ignorence was possible.

Says shillman7918.  I bet you were secretly revealing the truth without your boss noticing.  Do you buy into the Intel propaganda mike?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on November 30, 2015, 10:11:23 PM
This sounds a lot like something I put on the flat Earth society as a joke...  I am at a loss for words, I didn't know that this level of ignorence was possible.

Says shillman7918.  I bet you were secretly revealing the truth without your boss noticing.  Do you buy into the Intel propaganda mike?

Do you believe Intel invented the CPU?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: geckothegeek on November 30, 2015, 10:49:53 PM
This sounds a lot like something I put on the flat Earth society as a joke...  I am at a loss for words, I didn't know that this level of ignorence was possible.

If you haven't learned by now, you will eventually realize the ignorance of some flat earthers on a few other subjects....as I have observed....on radio, photography and a few other subjects. LOL.

Seriously, though, I have been involved in a little  work as a technician on computers. I assure you that the training included going into all the details of the circuits  involved. A computer is as rather complicated bit of machinery. Everyone may not have had that experience, but there are those who do know what is inside a CPU, but there are those who do. And the CPU is just one of the many components of a computer . I will admit that my work and studies were not into computer theory as advanced as those scientists and engineers who work in those fields. Of course we all now how trustworthy the flat earthers regard those scientists and engineers.

It does make you wonder about this website.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 01, 2015, 12:24:18 AM
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Do you believe Intel invented the CPU?

No, but they are perpetuating the conspiracy along with other companies.  If any of these companies told the truth they would all loose profit because enslaving spirits has a lot of ethical issues associated with it.

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the ignorance of some flat earthers on a few other subjects....as I have observed....on radio, photography and a few other subjects. LOL.

Did you mean enlightenment Geek?  Radio and photography are conspiracies too.  Inanimate objects like rocks can't see things and talk to one another at the illusive speed of light.  Relativity says that nothing can travel light speed and yet light does, that should be the first indication to anyone that what we know about physics is an elaborate conspiracy.

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Seriously, though, I have been involved in a little  work as a technician on computers. I assure you that the training included going into all the details of the circuits  involved.

Care to enlighten us about how a little silicon square locked away under a case can think and reason?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Fletcher on December 01, 2015, 12:45:34 AM
Yeah.  Now we're on the subject.  How does a digital clock suddenly jump from zero to one,  and, my God, it doesn't stop there.  It has the awareness to go on and show a TWO and a THREE all the way up till NINE and then it starts again.  And how does it know when exactly to do this so that it is in sync with the rising and setting sun. Truly magical stuff.  It must be the 72 demons of Solomon.

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Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 01, 2015, 01:01:58 AM
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Yeah.  Now we're on the subject.  How does a digital clock suddenly jump from zero to one,  and, my God, it doesn't stop there.  It has the awareness to go on and show a TWO and a THREE all the way up till NINE and then it starts again.  And how does it know when exactly to do this so that it is in sync with the rising and setting sun. Truly magical stuff.  It must be the 72 demons of Solomon.

Actually in this case it's only one spirit.  You are absolutely right though, inanimate objects can't do things like that yet computers somehow can.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: junker on December 01, 2015, 01:07:19 AM
This one seems like a bit too much of a stretch for FEG. Since there is actual conversation going on, I am going to move to T&I.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Fletcher on December 01, 2015, 01:38:11 AM
Where's the sarcasm smiley?

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Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on December 01, 2015, 02:04:03 AM
Care to enlighten us about how a little silicon square locked away under a case can think and reason?

I'll quote myself to answer this.

Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on December 01, 2015, 08:29:26 AM

Surely the wizard ethics committee would take a dim view of the binding of spirits for such mundane use!
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 01, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
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Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!

What do you mean computers don't think and reason?  My computer is clearly good enough at it that it can realize that I am pushing keys and use logic and reason to determine that what I am pressing should show up on screen based on a set of written instructions that are written in English albeit in a strange way.  We are supposed to believe that this is done because of a bunch of little 1's and 0's floating around in a silicon chip that nobody can seem to explain for the life of them.

I don't believe that there are wizards at Intel, but you clearly do since you dogmatically believe that they can produce a magical silicon chip that can think and reason.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 01, 2015, 04:38:00 PM
Here is some more suspicious stuff about "computers" that prove that we are being lied ti:

Every "CPU" is slightly different in speed and we are told that it's because their precise and consistent manufacturing process is making little mistakes and that somehow effects the speed.  They are using machines to precisely make new "machines", so shouldn't these CPU's rolling off the assembly line all be identical?  In a car assembly line you don't see cars that can naturally go twice as fast as another for no apparent reason.  Clearly this variation is coming from the diversity of spirits they are using.

Also, why would a computer need power if it does no physical work?  It makes no sense.  In reality they use the power to help contain spirits and punish insubordinate ones.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on December 01, 2015, 05:10:35 PM

I'm guessing that where ever it is you live, it's the equivalent of the 1st of April, or someone swapped your meds for smarties.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on December 01, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
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Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!

What do you mean computers don't think and reason?  My computer is clearly good enough at it that it can realize that I am pushing keys and use logic and reason to determine that what I am pressing should show up on screen based on a set of written instructions that are written in English albeit in a strange way.  We are supposed to believe that this is done because of a bunch of little 1's and 0's floating around in a silicon chip that nobody can seem to explain for the life of them.

I don't believe that there are wizards at Intel, but you clearly do since you dogmatically believe that they can produce a magical silicon chip that can think and reason.

Well, all the christians and whatnot of the world will surely thank you for figuring out 'spirits' talk in 1s and 0s


I'm guessing more of lack of oxygen in the womb

I'm guessing that where ever it is you live, it's the equivalent of the 1st of April, or someone swapped your meds for smarties.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 01, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
I would like to note for the record that the shills are trying to discredit me with insults without even addressing my arguments.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 01, 2015, 10:04:24 PM
I'm curious - if CPUs are trapped souls, why do they keep getting faster and better at what they do with each new model? Also, how is a CPU different from a GPU?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: EnigmaZV on December 01, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
I once directly plugged a transistor directly into the power outlet in my home. I saw the spirit come out of it, and the transistor no longer worked.

In fact, one of the things said by electronics people when something fails catastrophically, is that the "smoke" was let out of whichever component failed.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: la xasop on December 02, 2015, 07:03:22 AM
A compiler that interprets different languages, compiles the requests, either does the calculation or sends it off to another component to do the calculation(s). Then uncompiles and sends the information out in another language.

Um, what? No.

A CPU is, in basic terms, a machine that reads and writes memory. It does this in accordance with its programming, which is itself stored in memory, and consists of a set of (usually very simple) instructions, such as "add these two numbers together and store the result here". Modern CPUs sometimes have more complex instructions to make things like video encoding faster, but it's still the same basic principle.

Everything else a computer does is built upon that basic principle of reading and writing memory. When you attach a PCI video card, a SATA hard drive or a USB webcam, it gets mapped into the computer's memory space so that the CPU can communicate with it. It's the operating system's job to manage all of these various devices so that they're useful to programs, not the CPU's.

It's also the operating system's job to interpret any programming languages the user might want to run. You don't throw Python code at a CPU and expect it to do the right thing. Rather, you use the Python interpreter -- a piece of software like any other, consisting of basic instructions the CPU can understand -- to execute your Python code. The CPU never actually runs any Python; as far as it's concerned, your Python code is nothing but ordinary data. The CPU executes the Python interpreter, which does something with that data.

If you're going to correct people on the Internet, please at least try to be correct yourself first.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Lord Dave on December 02, 2015, 01:56:44 PM
I'm curious - if CPUs are trapped souls, why do they keep getting faster and better at what they do with each new model? Also, how is a CPU different from a GPU?

Because life is moving faster every day, so the souls are faster.

And a GPU has an artist's soul in it. 
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 02, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
I'm curious - if CPUs are trapped souls, why do they keep getting faster and better at what they do with each new model? Also, how is a CPU different from a GPU?

The biggest things are the increased number of "cores" (AKA spirit traps) and an increased work load designated by the clock speed.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Pete Svarrior on December 02, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
The number of cores only affects some specific scenarios, but fair enough.

How come we were only able to increase the clock speeds by a little bit at a time? Furthermore, how come that CPU performance has been increasing despite the fact that the clock speeds have gone down recently? It's no longer common to see ~4GHz processors.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 02, 2015, 05:17:42 PM
The number of cores only affects some specific scenarios, but fair enough.

How come we were only able to increase the clock speeds by a little bit at a time? Furthermore, how come that CPU performance has been increasing despite the fact that the clock speeds have gone down recently? It's no longer common to see ~4GHz processors.

Computer companies are slowly increasing CPU speed for profit.  Think about it: if they released an incredibly fast computer then everyone would get that and then they would have nothing else to sell people.  With the way they are doing it if someone wants the fastest computer available they have to keep buying new ones.  The speed difference between computers exist mostly because if these companies are intentionally holding it back.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on December 02, 2015, 10:02:20 PM
A CPU is made up of 3 parts.
A request is made. The CPU interprets the language and compiles the request, it then figures out what the wanted function is. (This is no longer discussed, but still works this way. We don't have magic. We are only 2 steps from BASiC, if that.)
Then the ALU computes and figures out if more is needed. If writing to memory is required, it is then sent to the CU to be written to memory. The CPU interprets every request coming in and reinterprets again on the way out.

You can use all types of interpreters; but if you know about languages you know that the outside interpreter does not end with the same language a CPU uses internally.
The number one and two functions of a CPU is 1-interpret, 2-compile.
A CPU is constantly compiling and interpreting. The interpreting is where the most inefficiency is on a board in my opinion.

As for multi-core processors; there is almost no consumer programs that take advantage of more than 2 processors, and very few that use 2. The 'need' for increasing speeds is a bit of a fallacy. The time it takes to get the info and display it is mostly nil. SSD takes care of needed increased speeds, since the HD is where speed is killed.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: la xasop on December 02, 2015, 10:06:30 PM
A CPU is made up of 3 parts.
A request is made. The CPU interprets the language and compiles the request, it then figures out what the wanted function is. (This is no longer discussed, but still works this way. We don't have magic. We are only 2 steps from BASiC, if that.)
Then the ALU computes and figures out if more is needed. If writing to memory is required, it is then sent to the CU to be written to memory. The CPU interprets every request coming in and reinterprets again on the way out.

You can use all types of interpreters; but if you know about languages you know that the outside interpreter does not end with the same language a CPU uses internally.
The number one and two functions of a CPU is 1-interpret, 2-compile.
A CPU is constantly compiling and interpreting. The interpreting is where the most inefficiency is on a board in my opinion.

Your opinion is worthless when your facts are so hopelessly wrong. A CPU never "compiles" or "interprets" anything, merely executes instructions. Any compilation or interpretation is done by some other program (which also runs on the CPU, but that doesn't make the CPU a compiler any more than hosting this website on Linux makes Linux a web forum).

As for multi-core processors; there is almost no consumer programs that take advantage of more than 2 processors, and very few that use 2. The 'need' for increasing speeds is a bit of a fallacy. The time it takes to get the info and display it is mostly nil. SSD takes care of needed increased speeds, since the HD is where speed is killed.

The bottleneck for speed is always going to depend on your application. Making sweeping generalisations like this helps nobody.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Aether on December 02, 2015, 11:04:51 PM
Well, good thing it was my opinion and not a sweeping generalization, and it is maybe a good thing that many engineers feel the same way. IBM's brain cell chipsets are moving away but not really.

I will bow out now, but leave this, maybe you can interpret and apply it elsewhere:

If you were to ask 100 people what the main thing is that their body needs to survive; 99% will answer either food or water. If asked again, 99% will switch to the other from the first answer. If you keep asking, eventually about 80% will answer air. Without breathing, food and water are a moot point.
A CPU that does not interpret, compile, and reinterpret, is a moot point in most computing systems. Most systems would never boot.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: la xasop on December 02, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
A CPU that does not interpret, compile, and reinterpret, is a moot point in most computing systems. Most systems would never boot.

That's just plain wrong. CPUs boot by loading precompiled code. The specifics vary by hardware platform, but there's usually some code in ROM or NVRAM directly on the motherboard which loads the first-stage bootloader from a designated area on the hard drive.

You don't actually reach the point where anything needs to be interpreted until it's time to load the OS, at which point your bootloader needs to understand the binary format (typically ELF, these days) used for the kernel. But that's up to the bootloader, not the CPU.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on December 03, 2015, 09:03:01 AM

Yeah yeah! Come on Parsifal you’re drifting, back to the bound spirits.

How are they captured? Held? Is it possible to free them and get three wishes, where are FE’s carers?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 03, 2015, 05:40:33 PM
A CPU is made up of 3 parts.
A request is made. The CPU interprets the language and compiles the request, it then figures out what the wanted function is. (This is no longer discussed, but still works this way. We don't have magic. We are only 2 steps from BASiC, if that.)
Then the ALU computes and figures out if more is needed. If writing to memory is required, it is then sent to the CU to be written to memory. The CPU interprets every request coming in and reinterprets again on the way out.

You can use all types of interpreters; but if you know about languages you know that the outside interpreter does not end with the same language a CPU uses internally.
The number one and two functions of a CPU is 1-interpret, 2-compile.
A CPU is constantly compiling and interpreting. The interpreting is where the most inefficiency is on a board in my opinion.

As for multi-core processors; there is almost no consumer programs that take advantage of more than 2 processors, and very few that use 2. The 'need' for increasing speeds is a bit of a fallacy. The time it takes to get the info and display it is mostly nil. SSD takes care of needed increased speeds, since the HD is where speed is killed.

Sooo...  An inanimate object that's basiclly a bundle of wires going every which way can somehow interpret, compile, and do math?  Still sounds like magic to me, either that or proof that I am right.

Here is something to consider: Moore's Law has managed to predict with incredible accuracy the rate at which computer "science" has advanced.  Every 2 years the number of "transistors" on a chip has doubled like clockwork.  Does this seriously not raise any red flags for you people?  What other technology advances in a way that almost perfectly matches a paturn for decades?
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Nexeuz on December 05, 2015, 09:09:23 PM
Before anyone asks, I do believe that computers exist because I am currently using one.  We are just being lied to about how they work.  We are told that computers use quantum mechanics and the laws of electricity to work but those are all built on Newtonian laws which are wrong.

In a computer everything is connected to the magical and illusive "CPU".  Nobody can explain how it works and we are expected to believe that all computing is done in some magical silicon chip the size of a fingernail.  Have you ever tried to break into a CPU?  Even a hack saw can't penetrate that case, it's as if they are trying to hide something.  These companies have a lot of secrecy surrounding them, which is definitely suspicious.  I have looked it up and it turns out that Intel and other "tech" companies are censoring this stuff from the Internet because they don't want us to know it.

Only living things can think and reason, inanimate objects like rocks cannot think and reason.  So why is it that computers, which we are told are inanimate, can think and reason?  It just doesn't add up.  If you ask a rock what 2+2 is then it wouldn't do anything but if I hold the home button and ask Siri what 2+2 is IT will respond "4".  Aperently a the Wizards at Intel can use fictional physics to defy nature and people actually buy into that crap.

So how do computers work?  It's a lot simpler then the mess of wires and magical microscopic switches Intel wants you to think is there.  They trap spirits and force them to do a bunch of logic.  Have you ever wondered why programming is called "programming throry"?  If people invented programming as we are lead to believe then why is it just a theory?  Answer: because they didn't invent programming and in reality it's the language spirits speak.  I still can't believe that people don't question it when Intel says that machines can read, understand what it read, and do what it's told.  They say that computers always do what they are told but inanimate objects don't do that, if you don't believe me then tell stick to throw it's self to you and tell a gun to shoot you.  They won't do it because they are inanimate objects, but the little squares of silicon Intel makes aperently defy this and they will do your taxes and pay your bills for you if you want.  What a joke.

Es increíble como hasta dudan de las máquinas y como las programan, yo estudio programación, y me parece ridículo y absurdo lo que dices, todo esta sumido a que tu eres muy débil, y puedes perder la percepción de la realidad por eso crees en esta teoría.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 07, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
Es increíble como hasta dudan de las máquinas y como las programan, yo estudio programación, y me parece ridículo y absurdo lo que dices, todo esta sumido a que tu eres muy débil, y puedes perder la percepción de la realidad por eso crees en esta teoría.

Translation: It's amazing how even doubt the machines and as scheduled , I study programming , and it seems ridiculous and absurd what you say , everything is plunged very weak you are, and you can lose the perception of reality that you believe in this theory.

Alternate translation: I can push buttons on a computer and tell it what do do so therefore I know everything about computers and I am qualified to debunk your points.

I see you are resorting to attacking me and not my arguments.  You people are getting so desperate, it's hilarious.  Why don't you address my points?  What a joke.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Nexeuz on December 08, 2015, 02:55:36 AM
Es increíble como hasta dudan de las máquinas y como las programan, yo estudio programación, y me parece ridículo y absurdo lo que dices, todo esta sumido a que tu eres muy débil, y puedes perder la percepción de la realidad por eso crees en esta teoría.

Translation: It's amazing how even doubt the machines and as scheduled , I study programming , and it seems ridiculous and absurd what you say , everything is plunged very weak you are, and you can lose the perception of reality that you believe in this theory.

Alternate translation: I can push buttons on a computer and tell it what do do so therefore I know everything about computers and I am qualified to debunk your points.

I see you are resorting to attacking me and not my arguments.  You people are getting so desperate, it's hilarious.  Why don't you address my points?  What a joke.

You can say what you want, but believe that computers "is also a conspiracy," it is ridiculous, best thank, and that they can believe in this theory.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: UnionsOfSolarSystemPlanet on December 08, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
Sooo...  An inanimate object that's basiclly a bundle of wires going every which way can somehow interpret, compile, and do math?  Still sounds like magic to me, either that or proof that I am right.

It's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate) just with wires carrying or not carrying power is enough to make a binary calculator. If you play Minecraft there is a circuit mechanism called Redstone which can use Logic gate to construct even computer in a game.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 08, 2015, 04:12:24 PM
It's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate) just with wires carrying or not carrying power is enough to make a binary calculator. If you play Minecraft there is a circuit mechanism called Redstone which can use Logic gate to construct even computer in a game.

You an also make a floating house in Minecraft, make an infinite cobblestone generator, and hold enough materials to build a house.  Perhaps I could do those things in real life too.  After all: it's possible in Minecraft.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: UnionsOfSolarSystemPlanet on December 10, 2015, 05:51:19 PM
It's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate) just with wires carrying or not carrying power is enough to make a binary calculator. If you play Minecraft there is a circuit mechanism called Redstone which can use Logic gate to construct even computer in a game.

You an also make a floating house in Minecraft, make an infinite cobblestone generator, and hold enough materials to build a house.  Perhaps I could do those things in real life too.  After all: it's possible in Minecraft.

It's just an analogy, the floating house and infinite cobblestone generator is out of the picture. I didn't brought that up because Redstone worked very closely like a real life circuit, but some of the physics doesn't. You can actually make a simple ALU in Minecraft with XOR gates, or you could test logic gate in this game http://armorgames.com/play/17826/logical-element
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 10, 2015, 06:39:10 PM
It's just an analogy, the floating house and infinite cobblestone generator is out of the picture. I didn't brought that up because Redstone worked very closely like a real life circuit, but some of the physics doesn't. You can actually make a simple ALU in Minecraft with XOR gates, or you could test logic gate in this game http://armorgames.com/play/17826/logical-element

Did I just read that right?  Do you seriously think that redstone and electricity work anything like each other?  Redstone doesn't have positive and negative, it's just a one way charge and things like levers can create infinite power.  There is no resistance, power physically cannot travel more then 15 blocks without a repeater, and I am having trouble figuring out how it resembles electricity or anything that exists in the real world in any way.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Lord Dave on December 11, 2015, 08:31:18 AM
It's just an analogy, the floating house and infinite cobblestone generator is out of the picture. I didn't brought that up because Redstone worked very closely like a real life circuit, but some of the physics doesn't. You can actually make a simple ALU in Minecraft with XOR gates, or you could test logic gate in this game http://armorgames.com/play/17826/logical-element (http://armorgames.com/play/17826/logical-element)

Did I just read that right?  Do you seriously think that redstone and electricity work anything like each other?  Redstone doesn't have positive and negative, it's just a one way charge and things like levers can create infinite power.  There is no resistance, power physically cannot travel more then 15 blocks without a repeater, and I am having trouble figuring out how it resembles electricity or anything that exists in the real world in any way.
It resembles flowing water in a pipe more.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 11, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
It resembles flowing water in a pipe more.

It certainly does resemble MINECRAFT water.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Hoppy on December 13, 2015, 01:36:27 AM
I'm curious - if CPUs are trapped souls, why do they keep getting faster and better at what they do with each new model? Also, how is a CPU different from a GPU?

Because life is moving faster every day, so the souls are faster.

And a GPU has an artist's soul in it.
You have to think like a CPU, if it running day after for years. Of course it will be faster at the end of all that running. It is no mistake that they continually get faster.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Rushy on December 13, 2015, 02:08:16 AM
I'm Commander Sheppard and this is my favorite thread on the Citadel.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Lord Dave on December 13, 2015, 07:30:35 AM
I'm Commander Sheppard and this is my favorite thread on the Citadel.


Now you just have to put that in every thread.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: FEexperimenter on December 14, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
I'm curious - if CPUs are trapped souls, why do they keep getting faster and better at what they do with each new model? Also, how is a CPU different from a GPU?

Because life is moving faster every day, so the souls are faster.

And a GPU has an artist's soul in it.
You have to think like a CPU, if it running day after for years. Of course it will be faster at the end of all that running. It is no mistake that they continually get faster.

I'm glad that at least one person on this forum is open minded.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Rushy on December 14, 2015, 05:52:15 PM
This explains why processors stop working if you let the magic smoke get out.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: garygreen on December 14, 2015, 06:00:33 PM
This explains why processors stop working if you let the magic smoke get out.

lol noob.  all you have to do is pour water on it to cool it down and keep the magic smoke in.

just pour 1 cup of room temperature water on your processor each morning and you should be good.
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Rushy on December 14, 2015, 08:50:41 PM
This explains why processors stop working if you let the magic smoke get out.

lol noob.  all you have to do is pour water on it to cool it down and keep the magic smoke in.

just pour 1 cup of room temperature water on your processor each morning and you should be good.

I went ahead and used two cups and it works even faster than I expected. Thanks for the advice fam
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: UnionsOfSolarSystemPlanet on December 17, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
It's just an analogy, the floating house and infinite cobblestone generator is out of the picture. I didn't brought that up because Redstone worked very closely like a real life circuit, but some of the physics doesn't. You can actually make a simple ALU in Minecraft with XOR gates, or you could test logic gate in this game http://armorgames.com/play/17826/logical-element

Did I just read that right?  Do you seriously think that redstone and electricity work anything like each other?  Redstone doesn't have positive and negative, it's just a one way charge and things like levers can create infinite power.  There is no resistance, power physically cannot travel more then 15 blocks without a repeater, and I am having trouble figuring out how it resembles electricity or anything that exists in the real world in any way.
Powered circuit are negative charged, as how it works will be explained in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrBqCFLHIY

Now that on and off circuit can be used to build Boolean Logic (Logic gates) http://computer.howstuffworks.com/boolean.htm

I know that i linked a lot, but YOU provide no proof backing up your claim. The burden of proof should be on you not the skeptic just like the TFES wiki said http://wiki.tfes.org/Burden_of_Proof
Title: Re: Computers are a conspiracy
Post by: Misero on December 25, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
I have personally built a CPU. Not very powerful, but the same thing.