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Title: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on October 15, 2014, 02:59:44 AM
I started running this poll in my thread Ask a Jew anything, and then realised that was stupid. So, for all of your enjoyment, here you are. Answer honestly. I am genuinely curious. Those who voted, do vote here again. I apologise for the confusion.
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Post by: Ghost of V on October 15, 2014, 03:30:02 AM
Pot Party is not a real political party, Yaakov.

You might as well add Abortion Abolitionists to that list if you're going to start making things up.
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Post by: Vindictus on October 15, 2014, 03:30:28 AM
But it said he's not joking.
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Post by: Rushy on October 15, 2014, 03:31:10 AM
America has two political parties, no more, no less.
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Post by: Blanko on October 15, 2014, 04:55:58 AM
Wow, all these nationalities to choose from
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Post by: Sean on October 15, 2014, 05:27:55 AM
Needs option for unenrolled Americans.
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Post by: Thork on October 15, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
America has two political parties, no more, no less.
In the UK we had 3 but they were all the same. Now we have a 4th. They won the Euro elections and are now doing really well in local elections. The main parties are pooing themselves.
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Post by: Crudblud on October 15, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
The major parties are in cahoots with the financial elite, they care about maintaining a good relationship with the class of people who fund them, any minor party who wants the limelight has to make the same deals. Speaking as someone from a working class family I can't see that any one of the big three (or four, if UKIP isn't just a flash in the pan) cares one whit about the best interests of the majority, only those of the businessmen who keep their coffers filled, and as such can deem none of them desirable as candidates for government, if indeed we are to consider our system a democratic one.
Title: Re: New Poll, where it can better be seen.
Post by: Yaakov ben Avraham on October 15, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
There actually is a Pot Party. I was surprised myself. And there is a US Marijuana Party. Also a bit surprising. And there are several Communist or Communist inspired Parties. I am a member of the Communist Party USA, the original one, dating back to 1919. The only reason I did not go outside of the UK or the USA is because I wasn't sure how many people are here from outside those countries! If there are people, I can add to the poll, no problem.

Go online and look up Pot Party and US Marijuana Party. Both are one issue Parties. It's pretty obvious what that issue is. I only added it for light-heartedness. But I did NOT make it up.

Just so you can all see that I am on the up-and-up, there is the website. The website reference to the US Marijuana Party is  www.usmjparty.org   . Enjoy.
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Post by: Hoppy on October 15, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
America has two political parties, no more, no less.
Lol, one party acting as 2.
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Post by: Pete Svarrior on October 15, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
Wow, all these nationalities to choose from
No one gives a shit about your hipster country m8
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Post by: Lemon on October 15, 2014, 05:54:38 PM
I'm from Ireland but I personally believe they all fucking suck here. So... what's new?
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Post by: Particle Person on October 15, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Pot Party wins by a landslide.
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Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on October 15, 2014, 06:14:07 PM
(http://greenparty.org.uk/assets/logos/GPLogoStackGreenForWeb.jpg)

of England and Wales.
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Post by: Thork on October 15, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
(http://greenparty.org.uk/assets/logos/GPLogoStackGreenForWeb.jpg)

of England and Wales.
A socialist environmental taxation party. Why do you hate freedom?
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Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on October 16, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
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A socialist environmental taxation party. Why do you hate freedom?

Because the alternatives are awful. Just awful.
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Post by: Vindictus on October 16, 2014, 07:58:16 AM
>both major parties voting for laws that restrict privacy
>greens only party to vote against

Please tell me again about freedom, Thork.
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Post by: Thork on October 16, 2014, 10:44:32 AM
>both major parties voting for laws that restrict privacy
>greens only party to vote against

Please tell me again about freedom, Thork.
Our green party isn't your green party. Our's is literally Hitler in wellies.
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Post by: Vindictus on October 16, 2014, 06:18:56 PM
All green parties are similar.
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Post by: Thork on October 16, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
All green parties are similar.
What? No they aren't. They just have the same name.
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Post by: Vindictus on October 16, 2014, 07:25:34 PM
All green parties are similar.
What? No they aren't. They just have the same name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Greens
Title: Re: New Poll, where it can better be seen.
Post by: Thork on October 17, 2014, 02:56:23 PM
They have a common policy on the environment but their economic and social policies are completely independent. which of course they would need to be as not all countries are the same. The UK's particular brand of greens are totalitarians intent on banning all forms of individual expression and personal independence.
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Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on October 17, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
Really? They're one of the few UK parties advocating for an EU referendum (The only one who does so and also supports staying in.) They've called for MP recall if a petition of the constituency calls for it, they support the right to assisted suicide, raising the age of responsibility, giving young people a responsibility over a proportion of youth spending, restricting police stop and search powers, ensuring legal parity for parents.

We do call for higher taxes for high earners, increased taxes on environmentally damaging products, but reducing it on environmentally friendly ones.
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Post by: Saddam Hussein on October 17, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
Really? They're one of the few UK parties advocating for an EU referendum (The only one who does so and also supports staying in.) They've called for MP recall if a petition of the constituency calls for it, they support the right to assisted suicide, raising the age of responsibility, giving young people a responsibility over a proportion of youth spending, restricting police stop and search powers, ensuring legal parity for parents.

We do call for higher taxes for high earners, increased taxes on environmentally damaging products, but reducing it on environmentally friendly ones.

They also hate scientific progress.
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Post by: Vindictus on October 17, 2014, 08:38:12 PM
They have a common policy on the environment but their economic and social policies are completely independent. which of course they would need to be as not all countries are the same. The UK's particular brand of greens are totalitarians intent on banning all forms of individual expression and personal independence.

Nope. I just had a glance through their rhetoric booklet and they look very similar to the Australian Greens.
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Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on October 18, 2014, 03:12:14 PM
Really? They're one of the few UK parties advocating for an EU referendum (The only one who does so and also supports staying in.) They've called for MP recall if a petition of the constituency calls for it, they support the right to assisted suicide, raising the age of responsibility, giving young people a responsibility over a proportion of youth spending, restricting police stop and search powers, ensuring legal parity for parents.

We do call for higher taxes for high earners, increased taxes on environmentally damaging products, but reducing it on environmentally friendly ones.

They also hate scientific progress.

Their anti-nuclear and and anti-GM crops policies are a bugbear of mine, and I voted to try to change their mind at conference, but it's rare to find a party that I agree so much with otherwise.
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Post by: Tau on October 18, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
Really? They're one of the few UK parties advocating for an EU referendum (The only one who does so and also supports staying in.) They've called for MP recall if a petition of the constituency calls for it, they support the right to assisted suicide, raising the age of responsibility, giving young people a responsibility over a proportion of youth spending, restricting police stop and search powers, ensuring legal parity for parents.

We do call for higher taxes for high earners, increased taxes on environmentally damaging products, but reducing it on environmentally friendly ones.

They also hate scientific progress.

Their anti-nuclear and and anti-GM crops policies are a bugbear of mine, and I voted to try to change their mind at conference, but it's rare to find a party that I agree so much with otherwise.

I honestly cannot support any politician who is anti-GMO. It betrays a complete ignorance that I can only assume translates to every important issue.
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Post by: Rushy on October 18, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
I honestly cannot support any politician who is anti-GMO. It betrays a complete ignorance that I can only assume translates to every important issue.

I don't think many people are against GMO as an objective modification of plants/animals. They are usually against GMO corporations that patent the hell out of everything and sue anyone else for even looking at their crops in an unauthorized manner. I personally don't think you should be able to patent food, especially when most of the new plant they made already existed in nature. Tweaking a few genomes hardly calls for a patent.
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Post by: Ghost Spaghetti on October 18, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
I honestly cannot support any politician who is anti-GMO. It betrays a complete ignorance that I can only assume translates to every important issue.

I don't think many people are against GMO as an objective modification of plants/animals. They are usually against GMO corporations that patent the hell out of everything and sue anyone else for even looking at their crops in an unauthorized manner. I personally don't think you should be able to patent food, especially when most of the new plant they made already existed in nature. Tweaking a few genomes hardly calls for a patent.

This.

They're worried about companies like Monsato trapping third-world farmers on dependence on their non-seeding fruits.
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Post by: Lord Dave on October 18, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
I honestly cannot support any politician who is anti-GMO. It betrays a complete ignorance that I can only assume translates to every important issue.

I don't think many people are against GMO as an objective modification of plants/animals. They are usually against GMO corporations that patent the hell out of everything and sue anyone else for even looking at their crops in an unauthorized manner. I personally don't think you should be able to patent food, especially when most of the new plant they made already existed in nature. Tweaking a few genomes hardly calls for a patent.
I disagree.  I think people are too ignorant of what GMO is and consider it dangerous.  Like "Oh no, all our crops are GMO and they got a super bug that killed them all so now we'll die.  If only we had natural foods that wouldn't have died from this specific super virus".

Or they think "Man-made = mutations for humans!"
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Post by: Rushy on October 18, 2014, 07:38:51 PM
I disagree.  I think people are too ignorant of what GMO is and consider it dangerous.  Like "Oh no, all our crops are GMO and they got a super bug that killed them all so now we'll die.  If only we had natural foods that wouldn't have died from this specific super virus".

Or they think "Man-made = mutations for humans!"

Maybe the people who only hear GMO off-hand and don't actually do any political activity believe this, but the ones that actively push for various regulations tend to lean in the direction I described. If people feel strongly about something, they'll devote at least enough time to study it. If they come to the wrong conclusions, chances are they aren't too bright/motivated and thus won't do any damage anyway.
Title: Re: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Tau on October 18, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Maybe it's different in the UK than it is in the US, but in my experience anti-GMO sentiment tends to be associated with obsession over organic food and belief in homeopathy or crystal healing. Anti-Monsanto and anti-GMO are two very different things. The first is completely right, the second is based on ignorance and anti-science.
Title: Re: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Rushy on October 18, 2014, 07:48:43 PM
What if the GMO plant DNA mutates my DNA and I grow a third arm? I don't think you're thinking through the dire consequences of GMO plants, Tausami.
Title: Re: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Tau on October 18, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
What if the GMO plant DNA mutates my DNA and I grow a third arm? I don't think you're thinking through the dire consequences of GMO plants, Tausami.

Maybe you're right. I shouldn't judge so harshly.
Title: Re: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Ghost of V on October 18, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
What if the GMO plant DNA mutates my DNA and I grow a third arm? I don't think you're thinking through the dire consequences of GMO plants, Tausami.

No you're thinking of MSG.
Title: Re: Political party preferences poll
Post by: Vindictus on October 19, 2014, 12:28:14 AM
If people feel strongly about something, they'll devote at least enough time to study it.

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