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Title: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 08, 2019, 06:54:27 PM
Why do you think flat earth has blown up in recent years?

I think that, and phenomena discussed extensively in Behind the Curve, is the community and sense of belonging. In the information and digital age, where the fracturing of communities and loneliness are increasingly prevalent, perhaps flat earth combats such phenomena.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 08, 2019, 07:10:08 PM
Why do you think flat earth has blown up in recent years?
Because we have been putting forward fantastic arguments and winning the public over.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Lord Dave on March 08, 2019, 07:25:53 PM
Chemtrails.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 08, 2019, 07:27:38 PM
Chemtrails.
I think you are lost. Please follow the link here (https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?board=2.0)
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Pete Svarrior on March 08, 2019, 07:41:41 PM
In the information and digital age, where the fracturing of communities and loneliness are increasingly prevalent, perhaps flat earth combats such phenomena.
In some ways, loneliness is increasingly prevalent, but in others it's not. Consider someone who holds a wildly unpopular opinion (of which a FE'er would be an obvious example in modern society). A few decades ago, they might have never had a chance to meet many like-minded people, or even realise that they exist. Now, we have online communities which can connect people across great distances. And this sort of unity brings a certain kind of strength with it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 08, 2019, 07:56:54 PM
In some ways, loneliness is increasingly prevalent, but in others it's not. Consider someone who holds a wildly unpopular opinion (of which a FE'er would be an obvious example in modern society). A few decades ago, they might have never had a chance to meet many like-minded people, or even realise that they exist. Now, we have online communities which can connect people across great distances. And this sort of unity brings a certain kind of strength with it.

You make a good point, but I wonder if people who hold such "wildly unpopular [opinions]" would even be around if not for the times we live in. I also wonder if -- or, rather, doubt that -- online communities are as effective as in-person communities (e.g. the Flat Earth International Conference following as a natural conclusion from a once just online community).
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Rama Set on March 09, 2019, 07:01:09 PM
Why do you think flat earth has blown up in recent years?
Because we have been putting forward fantastic arguments


Lol no.

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and winning the public over.
Unfortunately, the public seems very undiscerning these days. Trump, FE, social justice; there are a bunch of dumb things people seem all too willing to digest.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 09, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Unfortunately, the public seems very undiscerning these days. Trump, FE, social justice; there are a bunch of dumb things people seem all too willing to digest.
So anyone who has an opinion that differs from your own must be stupid?

I mean half of your country decided that Hillary Clinton was just too corrupt to put in the White House and took the only other option ... but you'd be happy to have her embezzling tax payer money and laundering it through the Clinton Foundation, so long as she didn't try to keep your precious illegal immigrants out with a wall?
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Rama Set on March 09, 2019, 08:48:12 PM
Unfortunately, the public seems very undiscerning these days. Trump, FE, social justice; there are a bunch of dumb things people seem all too willing to digest.
So anyone who has an opinion that differs from your own must be stupid?

Lol no

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I mean half of your country decided that Hillary Clinton was just too corrupt to put in the White House and took the only other option ... but you'd be happy to have her embezzling tax payer money and laundering it through the Clinton Foundation, so long as she didn't try to keep your precious illegal immigrants out with a wall?

No Canadians voted for HRC.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 09, 2019, 09:03:39 PM
Oh, so you are criticising America's choice of President when your nation elected the single worst President on planet earth. Good job.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 10, 2019, 03:47:55 AM
Oh, so you are criticising America's choice of President when your nation elected the single worst President on planet earth. Good job.

I somehow imagine that Putin or Erdogan is worse than Trudeau. It is hard being worse than something that doesn't exist (https://www.quora.com/Who-is-the-president-of-Canada-1), though.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 10, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
I somehow imagine that Putin or Erdogan is worse than Trudeau.
Of course. They don't like America and so your press is going to tell you that they are evil. Its funny how everyone America likes has a good leader and everyone they don't like has a tyrant.

Every Israeli leader ... good
Every North Korean leader ... bad
Every European leader ... good
Every Russian leader ... bad
Every Canadian leader ... good
Every Iranian leader ... bad
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 10, 2019, 01:05:35 PM
Of course. They don't like America and so your press is going to tell you that they are evil.

Clearly, this is the only reason why Putin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin) and Erdogan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Tayyip_Erdo%C4%9Fan) are, as you put it, evil.  ::)
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 10, 2019, 01:14:31 PM
Well they aren't trying to turn their citizens gay, they aren't enacting hate speech laws and they do prevent illegal immigration. But hey, its all perspective, isn't it.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 10, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
Well they aren't trying to turn their citizens gay,

Lol no

they aren't enacting hate speech laws and they do prevent illegal immigration. But hey, its all perspective, isn't it.

Bill C-16, right? I do take issue with its stipulations. I know very little about Canada's immigration, especially if they have an illegal immigration issue. Do they? Would you mind showing a source?
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 10, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
I know very little about Canada's immigration, especially if they have an illegal immigration issue. Do they? Would you mind showing a source?
https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-struggling-with-illegal-border-crisis-of-its-own-ahead-of-crucial-elections

It is mostly because of stupid shit like #WelcomeToCanada.  (https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/825438460265762816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fworld%2Fcanada-struggling-with-illegal-border-crisis-of-its-own-ahead-of-crucial-elections)
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Rama Set on March 10, 2019, 11:30:09 PM
Oh, so you are criticising America's choice of President when your nation elected the single worst President on planet earth. Good job.

We don’t have a president. You suck at this.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on March 11, 2019, 10:41:14 AM
In the information and digital age, where the fracturing of communities and loneliness are increasingly prevalent, perhaps flat earth combats such phenomena.
In some ways, loneliness is increasingly prevalent, but in others it's not. Consider someone who holds a wildly unpopular opinion (of which a FE'er would be an obvious example in modern society). A few decades ago, they might have never had a chance to meet many like-minded people, or even realise that they exist. Now, we have online communities which can connect people across great distances. And this sort of unity brings a certain kind of strength with it.

This has got wildly off topic but yeah, what Pete says.
There have always been crazies out there (no offence, chaps), but the internet means crazies don't have to shout on street corners any more, they can shout across the internet and other crazies can see it. And some non-crazies who don't know any better can think "hey, these guys are on to something" and become crazies
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Toddler Thork on March 11, 2019, 01:06:01 PM
Oh, so you are criticising America's choice of President when your nation elected the single worst President on planet earth. Good job.

We don’t have a president. You suck at this.
Who cares? You live a long way away in a country I'll never visit.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 11, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
This has got wildly off topic but yeah, what Pete says.
There have always been crazies out there (no offence, chaps), but the internet means crazies don't have to shout on street corners any more, they can shout across the internet and other crazies can see it. And some non-crazies who don't know any better can think "hey, these guys are on to something" and become crazies

I prefer Pete's "wildly unpopular opinion" to your "crazies."  ;)
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Tom Bishop on March 19, 2019, 06:11:54 AM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Bastian Baasch on March 19, 2019, 02:35:24 PM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.

Lol, so popularity of a theory is directly linked to how true it is? Spontaneous generation was a popular theory for thousands of years, by your logic it was totally true.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Rushy on March 19, 2019, 02:56:43 PM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.

Lol, so popularity of a theory is directly linked to how true it is? Spontaneous generation was a popular theory for thousands of years, by your logic it was totally true.

Tom didn't say it's true because it's popular, he said it's becoming popular because it's true. Please take the time to learn how the English language works.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: QED on March 20, 2019, 11:14:18 AM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.

Lol, so popularity of a theory is directly linked to how true it is? Spontaneous generation was a popular theory for thousands of years, by your logic it was totally true.

Tom didn't say it's true because it's popular, he said it's becoming popular because it's true. Please take the time to learn how the English language works.

Well, to be fair, Bastian didn’t state that Tom said this. The logical import of Bastian’s reply was that the existence of a correlation between popularity and truth is not an indication of a theory’s truth value. In effect, he notes that untrue theories also gain popularity. Tom implied a correlation exists, and even stated the causal direction by assuming the antecedent.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Rushy on March 20, 2019, 12:49:29 PM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.

Lol, so popularity of a theory is directly linked to how true it is? Spontaneous generation was a popular theory for thousands of years, by your logic it was totally true.

Tom didn't say it's true because it's popular, he said it's becoming popular because it's true. Please take the time to learn how the English language works.

Well, to be fair, Bastian didn’t state that Tom said this. The logical import of Bastian’s reply was that the existence of a correlation between popularity and truth is not an indication of a theory’s truth value. In effect, he notes that untrue theories also gain popularity. Tom implied a correlation exists, and even stated the causal direction by assuming the antecedent.

I didn't say that the poster said Tom said that. I just said "Tom didn't say that". See how this mindless pedantic argument works? Try again.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2019, 02:00:39 PM
I knew people like to twist Tom's words around, but goddamn.
Ya'll bein' pedantic pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: SeaCritique on March 20, 2019, 02:01:32 PM
My flat Earth-discussion thread, mostly about why it's increasing in popularity now, has spent more time discussing Canadian immigration and pedantic arguments than that.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2019, 02:07:11 PM
My flat Earth-discussion thread, mostly about why it's increasing in popularity now, has spent more time discussing Canadian immigration and pedantic arguments than that.
Huh. Go figure.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: junker on March 20, 2019, 02:48:52 PM
I knew people like to twist Tom's words around, but goddamn.
Ya'll bein' pedantic pieces of shit.

Stop being you so much. Or at least keep it in CN/AR.

Warned.
Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: QED on March 20, 2019, 04:02:17 PM
FE is gaining popularity because truth eventually prevails.

Lol, so popularity of a theory is directly linked to how true it is? Spontaneous generation was a popular theory for thousands of years, by your logic it was totally true.

Tom didn't say it's true because it's popular, he said it's becoming popular because it's true. Please take the time to learn how the English language works.

Well, to be fair, Bastian didn’t state that Tom said this. The logical import of Bastian’s reply was that the existence of a correlation between popularity and truth is not an indication of a theory’s truth value. In effect, he notes that untrue theories also gain popularity. Tom implied a correlation exists, and even stated the causal direction by assuming the antecedent.

I didn't say that the poster said Tom said that. I just said "Tom didn't say that". See how this mindless pedantic argument works? Try again.

Tom also didn’t say that the ratio of Schrute-bucks to Stanly-nickels is the same as the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns. But there is no point in stating this, because it has nothing to do with Bastian’s reply. You obviously intended to imply what the poster was stating, and whether you did so with a positive or negative is irrelevant to the logical import.

Further, if you find my distillation to the logical basis to be pedantic, then so too is your initial reply to Bastian. Just less precise.

There’s no need to take it personal or get butt-hurt about it. That type of behaviour is beneath you, Rushy, and not indicative of the esteem I have for you.

Title: Re: Flat Earth - Why Now?
Post by: Cain on March 20, 2019, 05:29:05 PM
I knew people like to twist Tom's words around, but goddamn.
Ya'll bein' pedantic pieces of shit.

Stop being you so much. Or at least keep it in CN/AR.

Warned.
If only.