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Title: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Fortuna on October 26, 2018, 04:24:48 AM
First we have the British chaps who look like they just want to go home and watch a nice game of football:
https://youtu.be/EbPkjE9L5Jc?t=157

Then we have the American police who look like they're actually having fun dispersing riots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIC-2Ar_04
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Sean on October 26, 2018, 11:39:01 AM
Very cool! America slaps!
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: disputeone on October 30, 2018, 04:28:22 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCWhBmq8/1540871712604.png)
Margarine is horrible stuff, to be fair.

I hope the police have paid their TV loicences so they can watch sportsball legally.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Fortuna on October 30, 2018, 04:38:51 AM
"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Baby Thork on October 30, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
Well the obvious difference is that in Britain you see police on the streets. In America you call them police but they are soldiers.

Note, US cops are not wearing high viz to be visible. They wear black like special ops. They wear combat trousers. They wear military boots. They carry guns and wear military helmets. They throw grenades. That's a soldier, not a policeman.

The point of police and why they were invented (in England first in the world) ... was because people didn't like having soldiers in their villages. Soldiers tend to shoot people and make people nervous. And so the police was born and 'policing by consent' became a thing. Walking in to town with an army is not policing by consent. It is occupation.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Rama Set on October 30, 2018, 12:21:16 PM
"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: markjo on October 31, 2018, 12:58:32 AM
"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.

Or in your back:
https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/suspect-reportedly-stabbed-victim-20-times-with-a-butter-knife/1444871448
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Peoria Police say Thurman Ellis used a butter knife to stab Edwards to death.

Ellis reportedly stabbed Edwards over 20 times in the back over an alleged drug deal earlier that day.

Ellis is charged with four counts of first degree murder.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: disputeone on October 31, 2018, 01:01:39 AM
We must ban these butter knives at once, I never knew the dangers.

Let people spread butter with their fingers, or some sh*t. The benefits are not worth the risks for these assault butter knives.

Also forks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUV0v4-0Lg
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 02, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
Well the obvious difference is that in Britain you see police on the streets. In America you call them police but they are soldiers.

Note, US cops are not wearing high viz to be visible.

First off, British police uniforms aren't flashy, either. Second, US police do have high viz cross guard vests and coats.

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They wear black like special ops.

Usually only SWAT, K9, and other high risk units that requires a lot of movement wear all black or OD green. The campus police where I work at wear black polo shirts and cargo pants.

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They wear combat trousers.

Again, usually, around my area, the only police that wear combat pants are those in special units. Combat pants are light, durable, and comfortable, and inexpensive, especially compared to the polyester pants that is usually issued to police in my area. It's the reason why the campus police I work for wear them. Campus police hardly do anything so it really only make since.

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They wear military boots.
Again, comfort and versatility. It really has little to do with trying to be military. Cops have to patrol areas that are less ideal for normal footwear. That's why some cops wear boots.

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They carry guns
In a country with the highest private firearm ownership in the world. Also, Most of the rest of the world carry guns too. Britain is just being weird like with their driving. Who ever heard of driving on the left side of the road?  ???

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and wear military helmets.

No US cop wears a helmet throughout their shift. Those things are heavy.

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They throw grenades.
First off, it's usually special units like SWAT that have access to any sort of grenades. Second, US police don't use lethal grenades to my knowledge. They only use flash bangs and tear gas.
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That's a soldier, not a policeman.

That's your opinion, not fact.
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The point of police and why they were invented (in England first in the world) ... was because people didn't like having soldiers in their villages. Soldiers tend to shoot people and make people nervous. And so the police was born and 'policing by consent' became a thing. Walking in to town with an army is not policing by consent. It is occupation.

Again, your opinion about US police.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on November 02, 2018, 11:57:17 AM
"Butter knives are as deadly as bayonets" -British police

With the one qualifier that it must be imbedded in your chest.

Or in your back:
https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/suspect-reportedly-stabbed-victim-20-times-with-a-butter-knife/1444871448
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Peoria Police say Thurman Ellis used a butter knife to stab Edwards to death.

Ellis reportedly stabbed Edwards over 20 times in the back over an alleged drug deal earlier that day.

Ellis is charged with four counts of first degree murder.
How dairy!



Sorry.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 11, 2018, 04:29:56 AM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: markjo on November 11, 2018, 04:41:39 AM
Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 11, 2018, 06:59:38 PM
Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

I can't speak for the rest of the world but to call US police militaristic is strecthing the term at best.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: disputeone on November 12, 2018, 06:42:23 AM
Do you think that only American police are militaristic?  That describes pretty much any armed police force anywhere in the world.

I can't speak for the rest of the world but to call US police militaristic is strecthing the term at best.

I think that the thread title makes it clear they are comparing American and British Police. The average bobby doesn't carry a gun, they used to carry tonfa but HR changed their carry weapon to a big black dildo.

American police are far more militarized than Brittish police and slightly more militarized than Aussie police.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Lord Dave on November 13, 2018, 11:45:41 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 14, 2018, 04:35:28 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Lord Dave on November 14, 2018, 05:15:55 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform? 
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Shifter on November 14, 2018, 08:54:35 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

Luke is a policeman. Part of his job requires him to make excuses for his murderous colleagues.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Shifter on November 14, 2018, 09:01:33 AM
Here is Thai police. Imagine the outcome if in America!

http://www.directexpose.com/police-officer-hug/

Luke, what's the protocol for American police if someone comes in their station screaming with a knife? Your colleague gunned down an aussie woman for approaching the police car after calling for help after all!

https://youtu.be/qv-OSyQkPXM

Tell me that's not a tear jerker!
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: totallackey on November 14, 2018, 02:09:03 PM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Rama Set on November 14, 2018, 02:13:18 PM
I wonder how much of our perception of policing in the states has to do with selection bias.  There is something like 750,000 cops in the States.  Probably 375,000 active at any given moment?  We hear about one shitty thing that happens every week or so, but there must be a plethora of other stories.  It's not like you are seeing stories of corruption and brutality from Thailand that most definitely exist as well.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: totallackey on November 14, 2018, 02:17:40 PM
I wonder how much of our perception of policing in the states has to do with selection bias.  There is something like 750,000 cops in the States.  Probably 375,000 active at any given moment?  We hear about one shitty thing that happens every week or so, but there must be a plethora of other stories.  It's not like you are seeing stories of corruption and brutality from Thailand that most definitely exist as well.
I, for one, am of the opinion that most persons believe authority is corrupt, with or without specific evidence.

News around the world is primarily local.

You will seldom see or hear anything regarding economic or social conditions in other countries on/in the news/newsprint.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 07:11:18 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 07:14:02 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

Luke is a policeman. Part of his job requires him to make excuses for his murderous colleagues.

Correction, I never was a police officer. I was auxiliary law enforcement for a short bit but now I'm seeking employment as a law enforcement officer. Also, I don't make excuses. If the cop had no basis to shoot the guard then he doesn't have basis to shoot the guard.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 07:15:48 AM
Here is Thai police. Imagine the outcome if in America!

http://www.directexpose.com/police-officer-hug/

Luke, what's the protocol for American police if someone comes in their station screaming with a knife? Your colleague gunned down an aussie woman for approaching the police car after calling for help after all!

https://youtu.be/qv-OSyQkPXM

Tell me that's not a tear jerker!

Every country deals with people armed with knives as lethal threats. This is a extremely specific outcome that is not taught anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 07:17:19 AM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Shifter on November 15, 2018, 08:58:02 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.

Is it standard practice for police to fire on a person without verifying the target?
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Lord Dave on November 15, 2018, 10:31:58 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: totallackey on November 15, 2018, 05:29:04 PM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 11:14:03 PM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.

Is it standard practice for police to fire on a person without verifying the target?

No. Police are trained to reasonably make sure your target is actually a threat. I say reasonably because real life doesn't always give you a textbook clear threat.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 11:19:49 PM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.

A lot of obvious things can be missed if you're tunnel visioned on a threat like a gun to a man's head. I'm not defending him, but I can see why he shot. The officer sees the gun to a man's head that can go off in a split second, the officer gave warnings to drop the gun, the guard doesn't, so the officer shoots.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 15, 2018, 11:22:00 PM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.

Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Lord Dave on November 15, 2018, 11:30:35 PM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.

A lot of obvious things can be missed if you're tunnel visioned on a threat like a gun to a man's head. I'm not defending him, but I can see why he shot. The officer sees the gun to a man's head that can go off in a split second, the officer gave warnings to drop the gun, the guard doesn't, so the officer shoots.


Which is why citizens with guns in public is a bad idea.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 16, 2018, 09:08:53 AM
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter (https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/667252788/police-fatally-shoot-black-security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter)

American police: Literally shooting anyone with a gun, even a 2nd amendment loving citizen in uniform.

We don't know the details to make any conclusions of it.


Yeah we do.
Crazy gunman opened fire in a bar.  Security guard with a gun pins him and holds a gun to his head.  Cops show up and kill the security guard, who was wearing his uniform.


Its literaly in the article linked.  What else are you suggesting, the cops were told the gunman wore a security officer uniform?

We don't what did the guard did with his firearm or if the officer gave warnings or if he saw the uniform.


Its in the article.  If not that then one of the others.


Guard pinned bad guy with his gun on the bad guy's head.
Officers gave warnings while everyone shouted that he was security.
The security guy's uniform was on his body so fucking hard to miss.

A lot of obvious things can be missed if you're tunnel visioned on a threat like a gun to a man's head. I'm not defending him, but I can see why he shot. The officer sees the gun to a man's head that can go off in a split second, the officer gave warnings to drop the gun, the guard doesn't, so the officer shoots.


Which is why citizens with guns in public is a bad idea.

This is one example out 900,000 cops, millions of police interactions per week, and at least 100 million gun owners. The likelihood of this happening is quite rare. Besides, this was a security guard, he was supposed to be armed.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Shifter on November 16, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.

Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?

I take of my sunglasses personally when I talk to anyone. It's simple courtesy. No power play
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: totallackey on November 16, 2018, 11:08:06 AM
Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?
I have seen police specifically ask persons to remove their sunglasses prior to continuing a conversation during a traffic stop.

Personally, I take off my sunglasses when I am conversing with anyone about anything. That is what I was taught as child. Look directly at the person to whom you are speaking.

Your last question is somewhat baffling in that police conduct, while on duty, official police business. If you care to further parse for clarification, traffic stops for instance.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Baby Thork on November 16, 2018, 11:32:08 AM
I live in the UK. We don't need sunglasses.  :'(
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Lord Dave on November 16, 2018, 12:36:36 PM
This is one example out 900,000 cops, millions of police interactions per week, and at least 100 million gun owners. The likelihood of this happening is quite rare. Besides, this was a security guard, he was supposed to be armed.
Yes it is.  But the NRA would have us think that everyone should own a gun to kill anyone who tries to shoot someone in public. 
And yes, that's my point. A security guard, whose job it is to have a gun, was killed by police.  So what chance does a citizen in street clothes have?
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 18, 2018, 01:34:46 AM
This is one example out 900,000 cops, millions of police interactions per week, and at least 100 million gun owners. The likelihood of this happening is quite rare. Besides, this was a security guard, he was supposed to be armed.
Yes it is.  But the NRA would have us think that everyone should own a gun to kill anyone who tries to shoot someone in public. 
And yes, that's my point. A security guard, whose job it is to have a gun, was killed by police.  So what chance does a citizen in street clothes have?

Depending on which reports you read, the gaurd was in street clothes except for his hat that said "security" on it. I have a security hat and on the front it has big bold letters and on the back it has smaller lettering that could be stitched on a name tag. Depending on the angle which the officer approached from, he could've easily missed the lettering. Also a key note here is the fact that the officer gave warnings but the gaurd didn't heed them. So it wasn't really a matter of whether you're wearing street clothes or not in this instance but rather putting the gun down when told to.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 18, 2018, 01:37:45 AM
So no response defending the idea that US cops are militaristic.
US Police are, for the most part militaristic.

Once police were removed from a walking beat patrol of the streets and placed in a squad car and behind a set of sunglasses, it has, for the most part, become more normalized for even police to view themselves this way.

What's the deal with sunglasses? If you're going to be out in the sun all day, especially without a hat, of course you're going to wear sunglasses.
Nothing if it is sunny and they are required.

But many police i have seen maintain the glasses on approach even when conducting official business.

IMO, that is rude and unprofessional.

Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?

I take of my sunglasses personally when I talk to anyone. It's simple courtesy. No power play

I doubt the officer is playing some type of power play if he refuse to take his shades. It could simply be that it's sunny out and he doesn't want to keep squinting his eyes.
Title: Re: American Police vs British Police
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on November 18, 2018, 01:41:48 AM
Do you take off your sunglasses when talking to police? What specific official business are you referring to?
I have seen police specifically ask persons to remove their sunglasses prior to continuing a conversation during a traffic stop.

That's mainly to ID you better, but ok, you do take off your sunglasses.
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Personally, I take off my sunglasses when I am conversing with anyone about anything. That is what I was taught as child. Look directly at the person to whom you are speaking.

Your last question is somewhat baffling in that police conduct, while on duty, official police business. If you care to further parse for clarification, traffic stops for instance.

You're inside your car while he's standing out in the sun. Is this really such a big issue for you that the officer takes basic care of his eyes?