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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: nickrulercreator on February 18, 2018, 02:17:01 AM

Title: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: nickrulercreator on February 18, 2018, 02:17:01 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s_effect

"The Eötvös effect is the change in perceived gravitational force caused by the change in centrifugal acceleration resulting from eastbound or westbound velocity."

How would a flat, non-moving Earth explain this effect?
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: Tom Bishop on February 18, 2018, 04:34:50 PM
Celestial gravitation.
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: Trolltrolls on February 18, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Celestial gravitation.
And what is that?
Any calculation to find out the magnitude of this force?
Any experiment to indicate that it exists?
Anything except the name?
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: Tom Bishop on February 18, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
Celestial gravitation.
And what is that?
Any calculation to find out the magnitude of this force?
Any experiment to indicate that it exists?
Anything except the name?

There is a search feature.
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: inquisitive on February 18, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
Celestial gravitation.
And what is that?
Any calculation to find out the magnitude of this force?
Any experiment to indicate that it exists?
Anything except the name?

There is a search feature.
Please help by providing actual links, and not just to this site.
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: StinkyOne on February 18, 2018, 10:41:49 PM
Celestial gravitation.
And what is that?
Any calculation to find out the magnitude of this force?
Any experiment to indicate that it exists?
Anything except the name?

There is a search feature.

I'll save you the time. They don't know what it is, how it works, or how strong it is. They just need it to exist so the orbits of celestial objects work, so it exists. I'm guessing you already knew all of that though...
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: Trolltrolls on February 19, 2018, 12:42:42 AM
Celestial gravitation.
And what is that?
Any calculation to find out the magnitude of this force?
Any experiment to indicate that it exists?
Anything except the name?

There is a search feature.
The search feature led me to the wiki. And that led me to some more funny stuff.
Heavenly bodies? Sure.
And nothing else. Even the pseudoforce, a force that doesn't exist, has a magnitude and direction.
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: nickrulercreator on February 19, 2018, 01:56:46 AM
Celestial gravitation.

Tom, if it is cg, how would that account for moving west vs east? When moving East you're lighter, but when moving West you're heavier. How does celestial gravitation differ? Should it not remain the same?
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: Pete Svarrior on February 19, 2018, 08:40:40 AM
How does celestial gravitation differ? Should it not remain the same?
No, it shouldn't, since celestial bodies are in motion, circling above the Earth. Can you, the reader, guess the direction of said orbits?
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: StinkyOne on February 19, 2018, 01:58:13 PM
How does celestial gravitation differ? Should it not remain the same?
No, it shouldn't, since celestial bodies are in motion, circling above the Earth. Can you, the reader, guess the direction of said orbits?

A few questions - Does rotation in CG matter? i.e. does the motion of bodies impart a force just by their rotation alone. Is matter (assuming CG operates similarly to gravity) distributed unevenly thereby causing some uneven force? Finally, how would CG account for the fact that the Eötvös effect is maximal at the equator and lessens at higher latitudes. The quick answer is that the Sun orbits around the equator, but that would cause the effect to be variable depending on the position of the Sun, which doesn't seem to be the case.

This also raises the question of the small variability of gravitational forces observed on the Earth. If you're implying that the rotation of celestial objects above the Earth is imparting a force, wouldn't that cause the variability in G to change depending on the positions of objects above the Earth?

My apologies if I am misreading what you're saying.
Title: Re: How does FE explain the Eötvös effect?
Post by: juner on February 20, 2018, 12:28:08 AM
I'll save you the time. They don't know what it is, how it works, or how strong it is. They just need it to exist so the orbits of celestial objects work, so it exists. I'm guessing you already knew all of that though...

Thanks for taking the time to add nothing to the thread. Warned.