The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Theory => Topic started by: SirMontyThe1st on January 22, 2018, 01:54:10 AM
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So yes, I believe the earth is round and all that and no none of you can change my minds but I really want to know why you all think the earth is flat, because I find it crazy to think people think that way can someone here who thinks that give me an explanation to why you all think the earth is flat?
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So yes, I believe the earth is round and all that and no none of you can change my minds but I really want to know why you all think the earth is flat, because I find it crazy to think people think that way can someone here who thinks that give me an explanation to why you all think the earth is flat?
I am under the impression the Earth is flat because wherever I have traveled and have taken the time to look around, the Earth was flat.
I have taken steps in Mexico, Canada, and nearly every state of the Lower 48, spent time sailing in the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf of Mexico, and Chesapeake Bay. spent time on power and rowboats in the Great Lakes of Michigan and Erie, the Mississippi River and the Potomac and Patuxent Rivers.
All of that time? The Earth looked flat.
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So yes, I believe the earth is round and all that and no none of you can change my minds but I really want to know why you all think the earth is flat, because I find it crazy to think people think that way can someone here who thinks that give me an explanation to why you all think the earth is flat?
I am under the impression the Earth is flat because wherever I have traveled and have taken the time to look around, the Earth was flat.
I have taken steps in Mexico, Canada, and nearly every state of the Lower 48, spent time sailing in the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf of Mexico, and Chesapeake Bay. spent time on power and rowboats in the Great Lakes of Michigan and Erie, the Mississippi River and the Potomac and Patuxent Rivers.
All of that time? The Earth looked flat.
I'm looking out over Lake Erie right now. Other than some floating ice, it looks flat...right up until I can no longer see the surface because it curves over the horizon. Do you believe in viruses? You've never seen them. You've only seen data from big science. They are just lying so they can sell super expensive anti-viral drugs. (in other words, your ability to see something is pretty irrelevant depending on the scale)
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So yes, I believe the earth is round and all that and no none of you can change my minds but I really want to know why you all think the earth is flat, because I find it crazy to think people think that way can someone here who thinks that give me an explanation to why you all think the earth is flat?
I am under the impression the Earth is flat because wherever I have traveled and have taken the time to look around, the Earth was flat.
I have taken steps in Mexico, Canada, and nearly every state of the Lower 48, spent time sailing in the Atlantic, Pacific, Gulf of Mexico, and Chesapeake Bay. spent time on power and rowboats in the Great Lakes of Michigan and Erie, the Mississippi River and the Potomac and Patuxent Rivers.
All of that time? The Earth looked flat.
Well, you have to understand that the earth is so big that it could appear flat in any direction because we are on the ground but simply thing disprove this, for example if the earth is flat I could go to the east coast and grab a telescope or something powerful enough and point it towards the ocean and on a flat earth I would see Europe, but if we do that we see nothing but water, and the reason that is, because the earth has a curve, so that's one of the reasons we stop seeing boats that sail away is because of the curve and when you are say standing on top of a mountain that is high enough you will see a curve.
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https://youtu.be/EqPqtQrtn5Q And also here is footage of a camera that was strapped to balloons that went up so high and you can clearly see a curve.
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https://youtu.be/EqPqtQrtn5Q And also here is footage of a camera that was strapped to balloons that went up so high and you can clearly see a curve.
I don't know if this video could be marked as "shitpost" or not.
I certainly wouldnt, as the efffort these kids put into learning worths respect.
But there are few things I have to say to youngest readers who could take the word "space" seriously.
Helium or hydrogen baloons float in the air.
There is no other way they could lift up.
Air gets thinner with altitude.
99% of the air is below some 30-35 miles or so.
Above that the rest is generally not thick enough to support balloons.
(There's no strictly defined border, thickness decreases gradually.
High altitude balloon record was 53km (32.9 miles).
Generally they go to 37km (23 miles).
Space "officially" begins higher than that, at some 100 km (62 miles).
"There is no definite altitude above the Earth's surface where outer space begins.
However, the Kármán line, at an altitude of 100 km (62 mi) above sea level, is
conventionally used as the start of outer space in space treaties and for aerospace
records keeping."
It is not easy to see curvature of horizon.
They say it is possible from 100 000 ft, but you still have to have wide enough view angle.
Regardless this video, FishEye lense curves straight lines away from center of the view.
If you see that at the center line still looks curved, then it is curved.
It usually gets straightened somewhere further below the center.
In this video most of the time center of view is below horizon.
I only managed to find two brief moments where horizon goes across the center (or does it?).
One is at 4:35, and another at 4:52.
At those two moments horizon looks "free from lense distortions" (and still curved), but sceptics are still free to doubt it.
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Imagine that I decide to parametrize the 2D non-Euclidean space we live on with spherical coordinates, not unlike how we do so on Earth today (Latitude, Longitude). It's fairly easy to explain why everywhere you've been you've seen the Earth as flat. You simply haven't been very observant; why does the Earth end at the horizon? But I digress. The Earth is very close to flat in your local neighborhood. If you calculate the Christoffel symbols for the spherical coordinate system, you see that they're miniscule and very close to vanishing (as they would in Euclidean space, where you can draw straight lines and not great circles). http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html
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hallo :)
I am new to this
I cannot tell you about the things that I know as a child as a teenager as an adult
as me right now.
...for?.. you know exactly the same things as I do.
what does concern me is the new information that I have.
that we have been educated by the USA and NASA about the 'cosmos'...and about exactly where we are at.
I have no other evidence about Planet Earth and about the Solar System and the Sun and the Universe...!
...as what these two organisations insist is correct.
...and the fact that they are both easily considered unreliable and seeking their own purpose?
...proven fake to the point of stupid
I think that this may be the single most self liberating and self satisfying accomplishment
of all time
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I never said anything about relying on the US government or Nasa on information for if the world is flat or not I am relying on basic geography and I would like to ask since this question seems to be pushed aside if I were on the east coast of america if had enough telescope I would be able to see Europe if I pointed it in that direction if the earth was flat, but that just isn't the case we would only see water can you explain that to me?
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https://youtu.be/EqPqtQrtn5Q And also here is footage of a camera that was strapped to balloons that went up so high and you can clearly see a curve.
Round-earthers lead you to believe that the Earth is round and is spinning. If that balloon rose 100,000 ft into the air over a period of an hour, how come it didn't end up on the other side of Earth but only 1-2 miles from its starting point? A flat Earth can explain this better.
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Round-earthers lead you to believe that the Earth is round and is spinning. If that balloon rose 100,000 ft into the air over a period of an hour, how come it didn't end up on the other side of Earth but only 1-2 miles from its starting point? A flat Earth can explain this better.
By that logic under UA the atmosphere would have been long since squished into the earth.
This answers your question better than I can. In brief, the atmosphere is rotating with the earth. If it weren't the wind speeds would have long since killed us.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/1193/why-does-the-atmosphere-rotate-along-with-the-earth
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To be fair the camera makes everything look curved right from the beginning.
But I do have to ask why is there blackness after the horizon? If the earth went on forever wouldn't it look different? There should be enough ambient light to see a little beyond the edge of where the sun is shining but the earth just abruptly stops.
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hallo :)
I am new to this
I cannot tell you about the things that I know as a child as a teenager as an adult
as me right now.
...for?.. you know exactly the same things as I do.
what does concern me is the new information that I have.
that we have been educated by the USA and NASA about the 'cosmos'...and about exactly where we are at.
I have no other evidence about Planet Earth and about the Solar System and the Sun and the Universe...!
...as what these two organisations insist is correct.
...and the fact that they are both easily considered unreliable and seeking their own purpose?
...proven fake to the point of stupid
I think that this may be the single most self liberating and self satisfying accomplishment
of all time
I wasn't educated by the US government and NASA. Infact, like the bulk of the planet's population, my country makes an effort to restrict American influence. We get just as much russian, Chinese and Indian influences and these countries are not NASA!
I was also taught basic geography in junior high. I was taught how to deduce by myself the shape of the earth. Simple things like the existence of a horizon, possible only if on a very large sphere. The circular shape of the earth's shadow on the moon during an eclipse. The direction of rotation of huricanes and typhoons depending on their position relative to the equator, simple things like that. Maths, Physics. Basic knowledge of these helped. I wasn't TOLD. I observed. Observations made it clear.
Best part, I didn't have so-called you tube experts yapping about some conspiracy that is patently impossible and blaming NASA and Governments that always lie. In a country like mine were succesive governments almost always detest the previous governments, there is no way such a conspiracy is maintainable government after government.
So I don't believe the earth is round. I KNOW it is.