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Title: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: howardtheduck on June 01, 2017, 01:27:21 PM
I've been looking through the evidence, and there's a lot, but I was wondering what exactly was the tipping point for you all here?

What made you certain that the Earth is not a globe, despite all we've been taught through our lives?

Was it a certain piece of evidence, if so which?

Did it begin as a curiosity from a skeptical point of view or did you always have some idea that we have been lied to?

Thanks,

Howard
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Mitchell45 on June 18, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
For me, I was on YouTube. I saw one of those "FLAT EARTH PROVEN 2017" videos, and I thought it would be stupid. To my surprise, it made a lot of sense, so I did more research on the topic, and that brought me here.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Dither on June 19, 2017, 12:34:25 AM
For me, I was on YouTube. I saw one of those "FLAT EARTH PROVEN 2017" videos, and I thought it would be stupid. To my surprise, it made a lot of sense, so I did more research on the topic, and that brought me here.

Ditto,

When I was eight years old I was told that the stars are mini suns all with other galaxies surrounding them.
I remember being sceptical about it, so for myself, it was the understanding that stars are lights that clinched it.
After that, NASA's air bubbles, wires and blue screen and also the perspective argument.
The bible being clearly Geocentric is another big clue as I am a Christian.
 
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Boots on June 20, 2017, 02:55:10 AM
Well I watched a Youtube video about how Nasa was a liar and then I knew that all the pictures they showed us were fake. Another Youtube video showed a boat in the distance. Then they zoomed waaay out till you could'nt see it and then zoomed back in so you could see it again. I mean, how would that be possible if the earth wasn't flat? Then I knew for sure!
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Oami on June 20, 2017, 04:22:35 AM
It's Obviously flat mate. If it wasn't we would fall of obviously. I can't believe that peope actually think that the earth is round.

No, the gravity of the earth keeps us from falling.

Most people think that the earth is round, because that is easiest to explain logically and coherently.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 26, 2017, 01:46:15 AM
So a video on the internet with a specific objective is somehow more credible than mountains of observable evidence?

Every single argument for a flat earth falls apart when real facts are applied.  There is not a shred of physical evidence, simply misinterpretations, oversimplifications, or just a gross ignorance of the forces at work.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Boots on June 26, 2017, 07:55:38 AM
Trying to use mountains as evidence the earth isn't flat is like saying the prairies aren't flat because of mole hills.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on June 26, 2017, 11:24:17 AM

Boots, have you had a bang on the head lately?
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Boots on June 26, 2017, 12:02:31 PM
LOL. Yeah, I got converted. Junker finally convinced me that all my arguments were, "irrelevant."

Oh! That and the YouTubes.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on June 26, 2017, 01:01:22 PM

Well tragic as that is, it seems to have affected your reading ability too, the mountains he alludes to are "mountains of evidence", as in lots of evidence, rather than mountains as evidence.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Boots on June 26, 2017, 01:30:08 PM
Criticize my post all you want, shill! I bet you think my first post doesn't make much sense either.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 26, 2017, 01:50:46 PM
Criticize my post all you want, shill! I bet you think my first post doesn't make much sense either.

It makes sense, it is just clear you are grossly misinformed and refusing to look at information that doesn't fit your manufactured narrative.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on June 26, 2017, 02:01:05 PM

I prefer to think that he is now doing a bad impression of a FE'r for some reason, having come here originally as an enthusiastic RE'r. The story of Junker convincing him is obviously code for this, as Junker, sweet as he is, never convinced anybody of anything.
That, or the blow to the head comment was unintentionally spot on.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Boots on June 26, 2017, 05:18:57 PM
I'm not trying to impress anyone! Junker's not sweet. And I never got hit on the head. So most of your post is wrong. Also, aren't we supposed to be talking about what convinced us?
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on June 26, 2017, 08:53:12 PM

Sorry Boots, I was worried about you. Carry on.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 27, 2017, 04:08:19 AM
I'm not trying to impress anyone! Junker's not sweet. And I never got hit on the head. So most of your post is wrong. Also, aren't we supposed to be talking about what convinced us?

Yes, we were.  So why did you redirect the conversation to you being a victim of some kind of intellectual attack?
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Roundy on June 27, 2017, 05:05:13 AM
A transcendental experience with ayahuasca.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 27, 2017, 05:35:29 AM
A transcendental experience with ayahuasca.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit".
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: seekerfr on June 27, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
Didn't have to be convinced because obsessed by the Earth shape since I am young. As far I can remember, it became more obvious when at 10, I received a globe for a birthday and so, had the time to work on it at home instead of some free minutes at school.
Shortly, I had the feeling that something was wrong between the pictures I saw on my school books and their representation on the globe.
At 16, I went to a balloon summer camp and what I saw just confirmed my doubts.

Born in end of July, I was always celebrated with some "moon landing birthday cards" so the space missions interested me a lot and... again, I was doubting... So with the years, I bought a lot of telescopes, walked the French Alps to be high enough trying to find some evidence.

Recently (perhaps December 2016), by chance, I saw that some people were thinking exactly as I am and started to study what information they share. I can not say that I am convinced, I only say that the Earth is probably not what we were told it is.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on June 27, 2017, 11:43:38 AM
So what I am getting from this is, a ten year old (oh and an 8yr old further up), incredulous that he’s standing on a ball (or the bright lights are big things far away), and seemingly at the peak of their scholastic voyages, and some guy off his tits on hallucinogen’s, and from this and a bit of looking out the window (and don't forget you-tube), I should ditch the insight of some of the brightest minds on the planet, past and present and distrust all the science, well I’m gonna’ pass on that.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: seekerfr on June 27, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
I should ditch the insight of some of the brightest minds on the planet
Should or should not. It depends on your way of feeling the things : you could choose to absolutely agree one who says something you feel not true or are unable to verify or questions you...
But that's probably too easy to believe freely without having to warn our brains...  I mean you probably take Auguste Piccard for a clown, thinking like you are  ;)
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 27, 2017, 01:18:04 PM
Didn't have to be convinced because obsessed by the Earth shape since I am young. As far I can remember, it became more obvious when at 10, I received a globe for a birthday and so, had the time to work on it at home instead of some free minutes at school.
Shortly, I had the feeling that something was wrong between the pictures I saw on my school books and their representation on the globe.
At 16, I went to a balloon summer camp and what I saw just confirmed my doubts.

Born in end of July, I was always celebrated with some "moon landing birthday cards" so the space missions interested me a lot and... again, I was doubting... So with the years, I bought a lot of telescopes, walked the French Alps to be high enough trying to find some evidence.

Recently (perhaps December 2016), by chance, I saw that some people were thinking exactly as I am and started to study what information they share. I can not say that I am convinced, I only say that the Earth is probably not what we were told it is.

What is this supposed "conflicting information" between the school books and the globe you received?
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: seekerfr on June 27, 2017, 01:31:35 PM
What is this supposed "conflicting information" between the school books and the globe you received?
At the moment I don't recall it fully but it was about the picture in the book, taken from space and showing a continent that should have not been able to be seen from the camera, due to the curvature, if it was located where it was told. The demonstration was so simple : look from the top of the globe and confirm that it was not possible to see that continent...
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 27, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
What is this supposed "conflicting information" between the school books and the globe you received?
At the moment I don't recall it fully but it was about the picture in the book, taken from space and showing a continent that should have not been able to be seen from the camera, due to the curvature, if it was located where it was told. The demonstration was so simple : look from the top of the globe and confirm that it was not possible to see that continent...

So you needed to use a GLOBE to discredit a composite picture, and your conclusion was that the planet is not a globe?

There are also angles of perspective to be considered here.

It sounds more to me like you confused ignorance with information and just filled in some blanks with some false/manufactured information that made sense to you at the time.  This is not objective learning.
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: seekerfr on June 27, 2017, 02:14:34 PM
So you needed to use a GLOBE to discredit a composite picture, and your conclusion was that the planet is not a globe?
When you are a young guy (it was in 1979) of course you know absolutely ALL about CGIs....  ::)
No, no, believe me, it was another time when schoolchildren did believe that the teacher would educate.

It sounds more to me like you confused ignorance with information and just filled in some blanks with some false/manufactured information that made sense to you at the time.  This is not objective learning.
Okkkkkaaayyyyy... I wondered how much time it could take before people who know all about everything would be smart enough to reply with a 20 cts assumption :)
If you have some time, you could help me understand if, claiming that Earth is a globe, is an objective learning... :)
Title: Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
Post by: Smokified on June 28, 2017, 12:39:57 AM
So you needed to use a GLOBE to discredit a composite picture, and your conclusion was that the planet is not a globe?
When you are a young guy (it was in 1979) of course you know absolutely ALL about CGIs....  ::)
No, no, believe me, it was another time when schoolchildren did believe that the teacher would educate.

It sounds more to me like you confused ignorance with information and just filled in some blanks with some false/manufactured information that made sense to you at the time.  This is not objective learning.
Okkkkkaaayyyyy... I wondered how much time it could take before people who know all about everything would be smart enough to reply with a 20 cts assumption :)
If you have some time, you could help me understand if, claiming that Earth is a globe, is an objective learning... :)

I am not even sure what you are saying here....  Are you trying to imply that you came up with some self-created answers as a young kid, and that is just how you left it?  And then you are going to come here, as an "adult" and have a discussion about it like the invalid conclusions you drew as a kid are based on valid information?  You do understand that you don't have to stop learning after you are done with school, right?

Nobody is saying that CLAIMING the earth is a globe is objective learning.  It is the act of objective learning that leads to the valid conclusion that the earth is a globe.  What objective learning have you done since you made these false conclusions as a child? 

To believe in flat earth theory, you have to completely close out any information that you see that might contradict the theory, because apparently it is all a scam, or illusion or CGI...etc.  And that isn't even including the information that requires you to actually put in some effort.  Forget math...why would a flat earther do math?  It is up to the round earther to do it for them so they can just claim it is all a hoax to fuel their delusions.