The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Community => Topic started by: IdentfyThis on October 25, 2016, 06:17:10 PM
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Hello everyone I have recently started recording the sky and oh boy is there a lot going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DWw1Ul357I
I'm just gonna leave a couple videos for now and we go from there.
People need to see this, all of us need to be aware about the things going on right above our heads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2deaqdnfk
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If this is representative of what you have to share, please don't waste your time. Lens flares and Photoshop, nobody has time for this nonsense.
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If this is representative of what you have to share, please don't waste your time. Lens flares and Photoshop, nobody has time for this nonsense.
What exactly are you suggesting? that I faked all of this? you also don't have to be a dick about it.
I am going to continue to share what I am here to share, you make of you what you will just please don't waste my time with childish comments.
Thanks for watching.
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If this is representative of what you have to share, please don't waste your time. Lens flares and Photoshop, nobody has time for this nonsense.
here is a couple more for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZndGajcMT8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjtN7AllzY
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What exactly are you suggesting? that I faked all of this? you also don't have to be a dick about it.
I am going to continue to share what I am here to share, you make of you what you will just please don't waste my time with childish comments.
Thanks for watching.
What I'm suggesting, I'll go ahead and state outright so there's no confusion: nothing you've shown here is unexplained, none of it is what you say it is, and all of it has been seen here before. The sun is not "blowing bubbles". The sky is not "on fire". "They" are not trying to hide anything.
And I'm not trying to be a dick about it, I honestly think you MUST have better things to do with your time than pursue lens flares and dust/fingerprints on camera lenses.
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lol
I'm not naming any of this hance "IdentifyThis" I'm just showing the sky and you make of you what you will.
Clearly the Sun is not blowing bubbles and the sky is not on fire... I mean, how dumb do you have to be do take that literal?
I am not claming to know what any of this stuff is and I name them as I see them. If its not something you are interested in watching please move along there are some people that do wanna see this stuff.
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I mean, how dumb do you have to be do take that literal?
Well, you made several long videos of you just circling a bunch of lens flares set to mysterious music, so...
I am not claming to know what any of this stuff is and I name them as I see them.
Ok, cool. I'll name it as I see it too then. They are lens flares. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IesAvesFUo) Sorry to rain on your parade.
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I mean, how dumb do you have to be do take that literal?
Well, you made several long videos of you just circling a bunch of lens flares set to mysterious music, so...
I am not claming to know what any of this stuff is and I name them as I see them.
Ok, cool. I'll name it as I see it too then. They are lens flares. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IesAvesFUo) Sorry to rain on your parade.
If that's all you see ok. Thanks for watching.
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Here is a couple more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz3XtL_MmdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkwb6F8-KLc
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Do you know the purpose of this website? FLAT EARTH. Do your videos have anything to do with the shape of the earth, flat or otherwise? No, no they do not.
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Do you know the purpose of this website? FLAT EARTH. Do your videos have anything to do with the shape of the earth, flat or otherwise? No, no they do not.
Actually they do! These things I'm showing is not in "space" but then again you people like to assume.
All I did was share a couple videos and I get attacked.
If you guys believe the Earth is flat then perhaps you also believe in the creator of it all then maybe just maybe you should have a little bit less of this shitty attitude towards others that is only trying to show something.
All of my videos is regarding the things happening right above our heads and it should be a concern to all of us.
All of my videos can be used for a flat earth explanation. Just look at them, watch the Sun and the Sun rays... watch the Sun's path and all that.
Now. Please if you are a flat earth believer, drop the attitude because it doesn't belong in this amazing creation.
Have a nice day
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Do you know the purpose of this website? FLAT EARTH. Do your videos have anything to do with the shape of the earth, flat or otherwise? No, no they do not.
Actually they do! These things I'm showing is not in "space" but then again you people like to assume.
All I did was share a couple videos and I get attacked.
If you guys believe the Earth is flat then perhaps you also believe in the creator of it all then maybe just maybe you should have a little bit less of this shitty attitude towards others that is only trying to show something.
All of my videos is regarding the things happening right above our heads and it should be a concern to all of us.
All of my videos can be used for a flat earth explanation. Just look at them, watch the Sun and the Sun rays... watch the Sun's path and all that.
Now. Please if you are a flat earth believer, drop the attitude because it doesn't belong in this amazing creation.
Have a nice day
FYI, neither of us believe in a flat earth. In fact, there are very few flat earthers on this site that bother discussing the shape of the earth anymore. It's kind of boring. Tom Bishop is really the only one, and he hasn't been seen for several weeks.
If you think your video is relevant, then just say why it is relevant. What do lens flares have to do with the shape of the earth? Why should lens flares be concerning to all of us? If you DON'T think they are lens flares, tell us why? What do you think they are instead?
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Do you know the purpose of this website? FLAT EARTH. Do your videos have anything to do with the shape of the earth, flat or otherwise? No, no they do not.
Actually they do! These things I'm showing is not in "space" but then again you people like to assume.
All I did was share a couple videos and I get attacked.
If you guys believe the Earth is flat then perhaps you also believe in the creator of it all then maybe just maybe you should have a little bit less of this shitty attitude towards others that is only trying to show something.
All of my videos is regarding the things happening right above our heads and it should be a concern to all of us.
All of my videos can be used for a flat earth explanation. Just look at them, watch the Sun and the Sun rays... watch the Sun's path and all that.
Now. Please if you are a flat earth believer, drop the attitude because it doesn't belong in this amazing creation.
Have a nice day
FYI, neither of us believe in a flat earth. In fact, there are very few flat earthers on this site that bother discussing the shape of the earth anymore. It's kind of boring. Tom Bishop is really the only one, and he hasn't been seen for several weeks.
If you think your video is relevant, then just say why it is relevant. What do lens flares have to do with the shape of the earth? Why should lens flares be concerning to all of us? If you DON'T think they are lens flares, tell us why? What do you think they are instead?
I don't know what these things are. That's why I'm showing them and not saying what they are. I would hope someone would tell me. Lens flare for all I know move along with the light source but many of these things I am capturing doesn't move like all other lens flare on camera.
Yes I am aware that there are lens flare on those videos but I also don't think this stuff is normal.
What is causing thhis burst of blue light that makes everything go from night time sky to day time ???
You can see the whole beach lights up, the water, the chairs on the sand... what is causing that Sherlock?
This burst happens before and after the Sun goes below the horizon line.
I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.
I just wanna share what I find its not normal. I have genuine questions and I dont need to waste my time with someone giving my an attitude.
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I don't know what these things are. That's why I'm showing them and not saying what they are. I would hope someone would tell me. Lens flare for all I know move along with the light source but many of these things I am capturing doesn't move like all other lens flare on camera.
Looks exactly like completely normal lens flares to me. If you are convinced it is something else, I recommend doing something to eliminate lens flare from the picture. Buy a filter. Use a simpler lens setup.
What is causing thhis burst of blue light that makes everything go from night time sky to day time ???
You can see the whole beach lights up, the water, the chairs on the sand... what is causing that Sherlock?
This burst happens before and after the Sun goes below the horizon line.
I have no idea, since you haven't given us much info to work with. There are a ton of possible explanations. My guess would be the camera settings changed. Did you notice the bright flash in person, or just in the video?
I have genuine questions and I dont need to waste my time with someone giving my an attitude.
Ask away. So far, the only real question you have asked is "what is this?"... to which the answer is "lens flare".
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I don't know what these things are. That's why I'm showing them and not saying what they are. I would hope someone would tell me. Lens flare for all I know move along with the light source but many of these things I am capturing doesn't move like all other lens flare on camera.
Looks exactly like completely normal lens flares to me. If you are convinced it is something else, I recommend doing something to eliminate lens flare from the picture. Buy a filter. Use a simpler lens setup.
What is causing thhis burst of blue light that makes everything go from night time sky to day time ???
You can see the whole beach lights up, the water, the chairs on the sand... what is causing that Sherlock?
This burst happens before and after the Sun goes below the horizon line.
I have no idea, since you haven't given us much info to work with. There are a ton of possible explanations. My guess would be the camera settings changed. Did you notice the bright flash in person, or just in the video?
I have genuine questions and I dont need to waste my time with someone giving my an attitude.
Ask away. So far, the only real question you have asked is "what is this?"... to which the answer is "lens flare".
Yes I am aware that there are lens flare on those videos but I also don't think this stuff is normal.
What is causing thhis burst of blue light that makes everything go from night time sky to day time ???
You can see the whole beach lights up, the water, the chairs on the sand... what is causing that Sherlock?
This burst happens before and after the Sun goes below the horizon line.
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I don't know what these things are. That's why I'm showing them and not saying what they are. I would hope someone would tell me. Lens flare for all I know move along with the light source but many of these things I am capturing doesn't move like all other lens flare on camera.
Looks exactly like completely normal lens flares to me. If you are convinced it is something else, I recommend doing something to eliminate lens flare from the picture. Buy a filter. Use a simpler lens setup.
What is causing thhis burst of blue light that makes everything go from night time sky to day time ???
You can see the whole beach lights up, the water, the chairs on the sand... what is causing that Sherlock?
This burst happens before and after the Sun goes below the horizon line.
I have no idea, since you haven't given us much info to work with. There are a ton of possible explanations. My guess would be the camera settings changed. Did you notice the bright flash in person, or just in the video?
I have genuine questions and I dont need to waste my time with someone giving my an attitude.
Ask away. So far, the only real question you have asked is "what is this?"... to which the answer is "lens flare".
I don't know if this burst can be seen with the naked eye and these cameras aren't mine. They are really expensive cameras made for the outdoors. Even during the rain it looks pretty damn good.
Also why some lens flare move along with the light source and some don't?
Have you seen this burst of light I'm talking about??
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Look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLKV29yXMJU
why is the sky "breathing" and changing colors like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRN6l2yhank
This is reeeally early in the morning at Indian Shores
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2gAohf38hk
Look at how many time this happened during this storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp1FVssIITA
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If you don't believe they are lens flares, then go test it. Buy a solar filter and see if they are still there.
The flashes of light and changes of color are probably due to the camera automatically adjusting its settings. White balance and exposure settings. Change those settings to manual and see if it still happens.
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If you don't believe they are lens flares, then go test it. Buy a solar filter and see if they are still there.
The flashes of light and changes of color are probably due to the camera automatically adjusting its settings. White balance and exposure settings.
this explanation is not good enough for me, but thank you for taking the time to reply.
If this was the camera adjusting it should happen at the same time under the same circumstances but it doesn't.
Also I have never seen the sky go from bright yellow to bright blue with a burst like that.
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If this was the camera adjusting it should happen at the same time under the same circumstances but it doesn't.
All of these videos have different lighting conditions. I'm not sure how you would predict when it would happen.
Also I have never seen the sky go from bright yellow to bright blue with a burst like that.
Exactly. Neither have I (except when lightning strikes). Which is why it is probably just the camera settings auto-adjusting.
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As Totes said, it's the sensor. There's no such thing as cameras built for outdoors, only filters and settings for that particular use case.
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If this was the camera adjusting it should happen at the same time under the same circumstances but it doesn't.
All of these videos have different lighting conditions. I'm not sure how you would predict when it would happen.
Also I have never seen the sky go from bright yellow to bright blue with a burst like that.
Exactly. Neither have I (except when lightning strikes). Which is why it is probably just the camera settings auto-adjusting.
What about the one with the storm?
The sky is all gray and the burst happens a couple times actually.
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If this was the camera adjusting it should happen at the same time under the same circumstances but it doesn't.
All of these videos have different lighting conditions. I'm not sure how you would predict when it would happen.
Also I have never seen the sky go from bright yellow to bright blue with a burst like that.
Exactly. Neither have I (except when lightning strikes). Which is why it is probably just the camera settings auto-adjusting.
Look the burst happening to the moon (or what i think should be the moon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwfUms-c1wM
I thought at first that it was indeed the camera adjusting to the light until I started to capture this burst at various times with the Sun visible too.
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No clouds...all even color in the sky and the burst still happens...
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Did you even bother to watch the video "the sky is on fire" till the end? I put the screen shots first on that one but look at the recording after the screen shots.
Here is the video again
at 1:27 the recording starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjtN7AllzY
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Did you even bother to watch the video "the sky is on fire" till the end?
Camera auto-adjusting plus the red sunset is filtering through the clouds.
Look the burst happening to the moon (or what i think should be the moon)
Camera auto-adjusting plus a compression artifact.
No clouds...all even color in the sky and the burst still happens...
Camera auto-adjusting. It doesn't matter if there are clouds or not.
What about the one with the storm?
Camera auto-adjusting.
Alrighty, I've watched enough of these. If you have ten more videos like this, just assume that my answer is some combination of lens flare, camera auto-adjusting, and compression artifacts. Take care, and try not to freak out over every little camera glitch.
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Did you even bother to watch the video "the sky is on fire" till the end? I put the screen shots first on that one but look at the recording after the screen shots.
Here is the video again
Light bends and scatters. Your eyes can get fooled very easily with many things from size and color. If you view those same clouds from a different angle I assure you it would "not" be same color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IWk5NkxQF8
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Light Bends and twists and scatters. The light from sun is hitting clouds, pollution, dust particles and finally hitting the mirror glass of the camera or video lens causing all sorts of trippy shit
Photography How-To - Unwanted lens flair with Jim Zuckerman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG-Hz7F2XFI
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In fact, there are very few flat earthers on this site that bother discussing the shape of the earth anymore. It's kind of boring. Tom Bishop is really the only one, and he hasn't been seen for several weeks.
How rude. We discuss the flat earth all the time. We just avoid answering half-baked questions from RET trolls. The precise goal of that is that you get bored and leave, so I'm glad to see it's starting to work.
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In fact, there are very few flat earthers on this site that bother discussing the shape of the earth anymore. It's kind of boring. Tom Bishop is really the only one, and he hasn't been seen for several weeks.
How rude. We discuss the flat earth all the time. We just avoid answering half-baked questions from RET trolls. The precise goal of that is that you get bored and leave, so I'm glad to see it's starting to work.
You claim it's rude, but it's true. Junker asks that we make a topic with a particular point to debate, so one is created on Lunar Eclipses. So far at least, not the slightest interest.
All junker ever says is "Look it up in Q&A or the Wiki", so we do that and find it's no help at all. Q&A contains nothing helpful that I could find and the explanation in "the Wiki" is clearly ridiculous.
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Yes, as I said, most of us ignore weaksauce trolls like yourself. I'm very glad you're starting to notice!
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Yes, as I said, most of us ignore weaksauce trolls like yourself. I'm very glad you're starting to notice!
I don't get it. You guys can call us anything you like, if we as much as think of the word troll about you guys, we're warned or temporarily banned.
Asking legitimate questions about the disproving of your claims through the use of reproducible results is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pointing out errors in material within a society that is otherwise pretty anal about every single detail in the counterparts experiments, being scoffed off as typos, is not trolling. It's common sense.
Questioning the persona and intentions of people that refuse readily available facts (observations) backed by theories (explanations) redone and repeated through the last decade is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pulling the "our replies are mostly ad hominem, sidetracking the issue at hand" tactics however, is generally the FE way. I get it, if you want to be a closed club, be a closed club. With a public forum and with the presence on social medias, you're just not. You have to be able to carry out factual debates, deal with people who think you're crazy and so on.
Given the nature of this society's goal, those tasks are implicit. With the general FE attitude, you come off as kids, not grown ups, or in some cases, mentally disturbed or deeply depressed.
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if we as much as think of the word troll about you guys, we're warned or temporarily banned.
Not that I would have any way of doing anything about that if it were true, but I'm not convinced that your claim is even remotely plausible. Care to back it up?
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The whole Flat Earth scheme is a pretty good marketing scam. I've already seen people host seminars with groups of people attending. Anyone think those lectures are free and done with good gracious heart? hahah, wonder how much they are paying to attend.
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The whole Flat Earth scheme is a pretty good marketing scam. I've already seen people host seminars with groups of people attending. Anyone think those lectures are free and done with good gracious heart? hahah, wonder how much they are paying to attend.
I think you have us confused with other groups. There's no marketing here. Our lead admin, Parsifal, pays to host this place out of his own pocket. He doesn't use any advertisements, nor does he attempt to make any money from this place at all. It is literally just a place for the open exchange of ideas, with a central theme around FET. All opinions are welcome here. Suggesting it is any kind of a scam is not only ignorant, but borders on intellectual dishonesty.
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Did you even bother to watch the video "the sky is on fire" till the end? I put the screen shots first on that one but look at the recording after the screen shots.
Here is the video again
at 1:27 the recording starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjtN7AllzY
I'm curious. How does a video qualify for the 'MUST WATCH' designation? Does it have to be independently adjudged in some way?
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Yes, as I said, most of us ignore weaksauce trolls like yourself. I'm very glad you're starting to notice!
I don't get it. You guys can call us anything you like, if we as much as think of the word troll about you guys, we're warned or temporarily banned.
Asking legitimate questions about the disproving of your claims through the use of reproducible results is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pointing out errors in material within a society that is otherwise pretty anal about every single detail in the counterparts experiments, being scoffed off as typos, is not trolling. It's common sense.
Questioning the persona and intentions of people that refuse readily available facts (observations) backed by theories (explanations) redone and repeated through the last decade is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pulling the "our replies are mostly ad hominem, sidetracking the issue at hand" tactics however, is generally the FE way. I get it, if you want to be a closed club, be a closed club. With a public forum and with the presence on social medias, you're just not. You have to be able to carry out factual debates, deal with people who think you're crazy and so on.
Given the nature of this society's goal, those tasks are implicit. With the general FE attitude, you come off as kids, not grown ups, or in some cases, mentally disturbed or deeply depressed.
This goes both ways...
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Did you even bother to watch the video "the sky is on fire" till the end? I put the screen shots first on that one but look at the recording after the screen shots.
Here is the video again
at 1:27 the recording starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjtN7AllzY
I'm curious. How does a video qualify for the 'MUST WATCH' designation? Does it have to be independently adjudged in some way?
Did you watch the video past the screen shots?
Do you have an explanation for the sky pulsating bright blood red to gray/blue? Or is it just more lens flare you see? It makes a must watch video when the person who makes it decide to put that on the video name ;)
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Yes, as I said, most of us ignore weaksauce trolls like yourself. I'm very glad you're starting to notice!
Asking legitimate questions about the disproving of your claims through the use of reproducible results is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pointing out errors in material within a society that is otherwise pretty anal about every single detail in the counterparts experiments, being scoffed off as typos, is not trolling. It's common sense.
Questioning the persona and intentions of people that refuse readily available facts (observations) backed by theories (explanations) redone and repeated through the last decade is not trolling, it's common sense.
Pulling the "our replies are mostly ad hominem, sidetracking the issue at hand" tactics however, is generally the FE way. I get it, if you want to be a closed club, be a closed club. With a public forum and with the presence on social medias, you're just not. You have to be able to carry out factual debates, deal with people who (disagree with you).
Given the nature of this society's goal, those tasks are implicit. With the general FE attitude, you come off as kids, not grown ups, or in some cases ...
THIS.
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In fact, there are very few flat earthers on this site that bother discussing the shape of the earth anymore. It's kind of boring. Tom Bishop is really the only one, and he hasn't been seen for several weeks.
How rude. We discuss the flat earth all the time. We just avoid answering half-baked questions from RET trolls. The precise goal of that is that you get bored and leave, so I'm glad to see it's starting to work.
There are plenty of non-half-baked questions that get ignored. If you want to restrict your discussion to an echo chamber where no one can point out the mistakes, that's your business. Have fun. When you feel like defending it publicly, let me know.
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The Sacrificial Lamb has been exposed and slaughtered. We may now feast and drink it's blood to regain higher learning now
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=5459.0
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The whole Flat Earth scheme is a pretty good marketing scam. I've already seen people host seminars with groups of people attending. Anyone think those lectures are free and done with good gracious heart? hahah, wonder how much they are paying to attend.
l0l I feel so sorry for people like you.
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The whole Flat Earth scheme is a pretty good marketing scam. I've already seen people host seminars with groups of people attending. Anyone think those lectures are free and done with good gracious heart? hahah, wonder how much they are paying to attend.
l0l I feel so sorry for people like you.
See you have a low IQ and I dont feel sorry for you because that's how the cards are dealt in life. Your video's are very childish wondering as if you discovered absolute phenomenons. I'm not holding your hand and taking a tour on Youtube. Look for yourself. My original post stated there are seminars on Youtube and my flag is still firmly planted in the ground that those seminars are obviously NOT free.
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The whole Flat Earth scheme is a pretty good marketing scam. I've already seen people host seminars with groups of people attending. Anyone think those lectures are free and done with good gracious heart? hahah, wonder how much they are paying to attend.
l0l I feel so sorry for people like you.
See you have a low IQ and I dont feel sorry for you because that's how the cards are dealt in life. Your video's are very childish wondering as if you discovered absolute phenomenons. I'm not holding your hand and taking a tour on Youtube. Look for yourself. My original post stated there are seminars on Youtube and my flag is still firmly planted in the ground that those seminars are obviously NOT free.
You certainly seem to lack self-awareness, as well as an understanding of irony. Please continue, you're making your round earth friends proud.
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I thought this as a serious forum but I guess is just infested with trolls too.
All I hear is baaaa baaaaaaa
If Flat Earth is non sense please don't waste your time with crazy people like us, you must have something better to do with your time. Oh smart one.
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I thought this as a serious forum but I guess is just infested with trolls too.
All I hear is baaaa baaaaaaa
If Flat Earth is non sense please don't waste your time with crazy people like us, you must have something better to do with your time. Oh smart one.
There are a few more trolls around recently than usual. And moderation in these fora is pretty lax at the moment. Usually the FE fora are more heavily moderated, since we have other places here in which people can post nonsense.
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I thought this as a serious forum but I guess is just infested with trolls too.
All I hear is baaaa baaaaaaa
If Flat Earth is non sense please don't waste your time with crazy people like us, you must have something better to do with your time. Oh smart one.
There are a few more trolls around recently than usual. And moderation in these fora is pretty lax at the moment. Usually the FE fora are more heavily moderated, since we have other places here in which people can post nonsense.
Which is actually a fair point. However, you're no where near contributing to anything sane. All you do is point fingers, avoid debates, tell people how they submit to ad hominem, while doing just that yourself, constantly.
As far as I remember, you stepped down as a mod here, and since then, it's gone bonkers. From both sides I might add.
It seems that the only thing people want to do here is argue how stupid they are. I hate to say it, but Intikam is probably the closest you get to a user who actually wants to discuss the topic of this community, even though he's not remotely equipped to do so.
Then you have Tom. But Tom just closes his eyes. Then it's like "we never had this discussion" afterwards.
Oh, and sandokhan. But sandokhan is our modern day Einstein with an apparent fear of publicity. He could revolutionize how we see our world, on a global scale, if he just weren't so afraid of coming forward. I've never seen a person implicitly state so often as he does that he's probably smarter and more knowledgeable on all areas than... Well, everybody. He's the chosen one. That, or he's wrong like every other flat earth proponent.
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Which is actually a fair point. However, you're no where near contributing to anything sane. All you do is point fingers, avoid debates, tell people how they submit to ad hominem, while doing just that yourself, constantly.
I hate to say it, but Intikam is probably the closest you get to a user who actually wants to discuss the topic of this community
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Which is actually a fair point. However, you're no where near contributing to anything sane. All you do is point fingers, avoid debates, tell people how they submit to ad hominem, while doing just that yourself, constantly.
This is simply untrue. All I do is ask people to provide evidence for the claims they make. This results in long rants, but rarely any evidence. Conversations tend to go off the rails from there. I appreciate the RE approach of "listen and believe," but that really isn't my thing.
As far as I remember, you stepped down as a mod here, and since then, it's gone bonkers. From both sides I might add.
I was not a mod, but I was an administrator. And yes, I stepped down a while ago. There does seem to be less adherence to rules in the upper fora since that has happened.
It seems that the only thing people want to do here is argue how stupid they are.
That comes from both sides. It should probably stop, but it hasn't in the nearly eight years I've been here (and at the old forum). I may poke people's ribs on occasion, but I certainly don't think people here are stupid (well, mostly). Nor do I think that I am smarter than them. We actually have some pretty bright folks from FE and RE.
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guys... I just wanna show you the sky. That's all. To me it is not normal, even the lens flare are not normal. You can make of it what you will but some people are still so clueless about whats going on around us and all I wanna do is try to get people to pay attention and take a look around. well... look up... lol
I'm not claiming I know what any of this is and I name them just as they look like to me. Nothing scientific to it.
The name of my channel is IdentifyThis... it means its for you to Identify this crazy stuff.
If you think its all just lens flare and nothing else thats totally fine but please no need to be rude about it.
Thank you
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Now... I recorded this today and yesterday the Sun looked just like this when was setting... but this one looks really low closer to the water than up there where the Sun should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Kx9Zg3Alk
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guys... I just wanna show you the sky. That's all. To me it is not normal, even the lens flare are not normal. You can make of it what you will but some people are still so clueless about whats going on around us and all I wanna do is try to get people to pay attention and take a look around. well... look up... lol
I'm not claiming I know what any of this is and I name them just as they look like to me. Nothing scientific to it.
The name of my channel is IdentifyThis... it means its for you to Identify this crazy stuff.
If you think its all just lens flare and nothing else thats totally fine but please no need to be rude about it.
Thank you
Which is fair enough, as long as you're open for input from people who actually work with this or have years of experience in the field.
I've just gone through some videos on your channel, and all of those I saw can be attributed to lens flares and focus effects. CMOS sensors are pretty sensitive to changing light conditions. They have to be. It's that particular ability that allows us to snap digital, composite photos. Yes, composite, as in a photo in a combination of different color channels.
You don't need to take my words for it. Theres a lot of professional photographers you can ask out there. I've "only" been working with this on an embedded level, doing devices that shoots photos from high altitude balloons. Either way, I promise you that there's nothing strange about the artifacts in your videos.
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guys... I just wanna show you the sky. That's all. To me it is not normal, even the lens flare are not normal. You can make of it what you will but some people are still so clueless about whats going on around us and all I wanna do is try to get people to pay attention and take a look around. well... look up... lol
I'm not claiming I know what any of this is and I name them just as they look like to me. Nothing scientific to it.
The name of my channel is IdentifyThis... it means its for you to Identify this crazy stuff.
If you think its all just lens flare and nothing else thats totally fine but please no need to be rude about it.
Thank you
Which is fair enough, as long as you're open for input from people who actually work with this or have years of experience in the field.
I've just gone through some videos on your channel, and all of those I saw can be attributed to lens flares and focus effects. CMOS sensors are pretty sensitive to changing light conditions. They have to be. It's that particular ability that allows us to snap digital, composite photos. Yes, composite, as in a photo in a combination of different color channels.
You don't need to take my words for it. Theres a lot of professional photographers you can ask out there. I've "only" been working with this on an embedded level, doing devices that shoots photos from high altitude balloons. Either way, I promise you that there's nothing strange about the artifacts in your videos.
Thank you.
Can you please explain to me how is it the camera adjusting to the "burst" when the sky doesn't change colors? I mean... This burst is happening with the Sun visible, with the Sun out of sight, it also happened to the moon in the morning and at night with the whole sky dark.
Do you think there are lens in space to "covered up incoming planets"? if so... where are those lenses located? why don't they ever get hit by satelites or space junk? Those are genuine questions and I really wanna know.
As far as for all of this being a camera problem I understand that, my brother have told me many things about how cameras work (he knows, he works with it professionaly for a tv channel in Brazil)
one thing that I still don't get is why some lens flare move along with the light source and some don't??
I am recording these what I call "clear spheres" and they don't seem to move along with the sun as all lens flares does?!
My brother explained to me (and a few other photographers) that there are MANY factors for picture anomalies involving the Sun light and lens flare yet none of them can give me a concrete explanation.
All of them say that these are lens flare but also could be something else because of how they behave.
I know I wrote a lot but like I said I have genuine questions.
Thank you
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Like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwfUms-c1wM
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Also... if this burst of blue light (what I personally call it) why does it make the whole sky go from yellow to blue/white? If it was the camera adjusting the sky should remain the same color...shouldn't it?
It happens at various moments.. It goes from yellow to blue, sometimes it does stay the same colors. But when it goes from yellow to blue is such a drastic change...
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I just uploaded this one. You can see when the burst happens the Sun is gone and the sky is orange/yellow, the burst happens and the blue appear very bright and it set like the Sun... Look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemTR7kvHXk&feature=youtu.be
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I just uploaded this one. You can see when the burst happens the Sun is gone and the sky is orange/yellow, the burst happens and the blue appear very bright and it set like the Sun... Look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemTR7kvHXk&feature=youtu.be
Are you talking about the "burst of blue" at 1:30? Seriously, can't you see the image is completely pixelated? If this was an actual physical phenomenon, I'm sure that some of the loads of people moving in the image would have noticed as well.
Without going all wall of text on you, digital cameras that uses a CMOS or CCD sensors creates composite images, typically through 3 channels: Red, green and blue. Quote:
Photographic digital cameras that use a CMOS or CCD image sensor often operate with some variation of the RGB model. In a Bayer filter arrangement, green is given twice as many detectors as red and blue (ratio 1:2:1) in order to achieve higher luminance resolution than chrominance resolution. The sensor has a grid of red, green and blue detectors arranged so that the first row is RGRGRGRG, the next is GBGBGBGB, and that sequence is repeated in subsequent rows. For every channel, missing pixels are obtained by interpolation in the demosaicing process to build up the complete image. Also, other processes used to be applied in order to map the camera RGB measurements into a standard RGB color space as sRGB.
Remember that different colours operate at differente wave lengths. That means that the electronics in your camera have to adjust in an instant if there's a sudden change in the amount of incoming light. I think it's important that you read up on, and understand how digital cameras work before you use what is clearly artifacts of the digital processing within the camera as evidence for anything.
Now, to this:
Can you please explain to me how is it the camera adjusting to the "burst" when the sky doesn't change colors? I mean... This burst is happening with the Sun visible, with the Sun out of sight, it also happened to the moon in the morning and at night with the whole sky dark.
The camera is not adjusting to any "burst", it's adjusting to the amount of light hitting the sensors. This happens at night time as well. Even if the sun is out of your cameras view, it's light is still reflected on everything you observe. Remember, what you see, is the result of light reflecting off of it, and hitting your eyes. Sometimes, the amount of light varies. The atmosphere is not a void, it's literally a soup of gasses. The amount of molecules in our local atmosphere isn't uniform, this is why you have things such as low and high pressure. What you don't see at night time for instance, is the ice crystals in the upper atmosphere, regardless of the amount of visible clouds. This becomes even more illustrative as an example when you look at the moon on clear, frosty nights where you'll see a visible corona. You'll even see that standing below street lights and looking at them.
Do you think there are lens in space to "covered up incoming planets"? if so... where are those lenses located?
No, I don't. But given a spherical planet, with a gravity that keeps the atmosphere in place in a likewise spherical fashion, you will have light react to our soupy atmosphere in the same fashion as a lens, or a prism. Again, this is not uniform, since our atmosphere is not uniform. These effects can vary a great number of times in a matter of seconds, just like you see with a mirage or a fatamorgana. It's all a matter of temperature, humidity, the angle of light, air pressure and a myriad of other factors.
why don't they ever get hit by satelites or space junk? Those are genuine questions and I really wanna know.
Fair enough. Let's assume there were lenses in space. The Earth is huge. If you draw a circle (low earth orbit for instance) around earth, you will have a circle with an even greater circumference than earth it self. "Space junk" doesn't "just" collide for many reasons. Space junk in orbit at the same altitude will go more or less around earth at the same speed. Space junk in a higher orbit will go around earth slower. You will only have space junk colliding when they suffer from orbital decay, or have orbits with great variations in periapsis (lowest altitude of it's orbit) and apoapsis (highest altitude of it's orbit), thus crossing each others orbital paths.
one thing that I still don't get is why some lens flare move along with the light source and some don't??
A professional camera operator's first reaction to this would probably be observing his or her surroundings, looking for points that have very reflective surfaces. If Sunlight comes in from the right relative to the angle of your lens, and reflects off windows in a city on your left, there's a likelihood that you'll have lens flares originating from a source on your lefthand side. Lens flares are not a result of the Sun. Lens flares are the result of bright light scattering through your lens(es). Bright light can be interpretted arbitrarily, since light can be bright relative to your surroundings. That means, even street light in pitch black darkness is bright light for a digital camera sensor in that regard. Or even worse, the Moon. The Moon is pretty darn bright. If your camera sensor have to adjust for the incoming light directly from the moon, while at the same time adjusting from the moon light reflected off of your surroundings, you'll have artifacts in your photo's and video's as well.
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people are still so clueless about whats going on
No, it's just YOU that are clueless. Your posting nonsense on The Flat Half Brain Society and smearing nonsense.
Whey don't you try more reputable message boards like
Dpreview
Steve's Digicams
Canon Rumors
Those top 3 sites have real professional photographers on those boards and you will get the best professional answers
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people are still so clueless about whats going on
No, it's just YOU that are clueless. Your posting nonsense on The Flat Half Brain Society and smearing nonsense.
Whey don't you try more reputable message boards like
Dpreview
Steve's Digicams
Canon Rumors
Those top 3 sites have real professional photographers on those boards and you will get the best professional answers
I'm not even gonna waste my time with you.
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I just uploaded this one. You can see when the burst happens the Sun is gone and the sky is orange/yellow, the burst happens and the blue appear very bright and it set like the Sun... Look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QemTR7kvHXk&feature=youtu.be
Are you talking about the "burst of blue" at 1:30? Seriously, can't you see the image is completely pixelated? If this was an actual physical phenomenon, I'm sure that some of the loads of people moving in the image would have noticed as well.
Without going all wall of text on you, digital cameras that uses a CMOS or CCD sensors creates composite images, typically through 3 channels: Red, green and blue. Quote:
Photographic digital cameras that use a CMOS or CCD image sensor often operate with some variation of the RGB model. In a Bayer filter arrangement, green is given twice as many detectors as red and blue (ratio 1:2:1) in order to achieve higher luminance resolution than chrominance resolution. The sensor has a grid of red, green and blue detectors arranged so that the first row is RGRGRGRG, the next is GBGBGBGB, and that sequence is repeated in subsequent rows. For every channel, missing pixels are obtained by interpolation in the demosaicing process to build up the complete image. Also, other processes used to be applied in order to map the camera RGB measurements into a standard RGB color space as sRGB.
Remember that different colours operate at differente wave lengths. That means that the electronics in your camera have to adjust in an instant if there's a sudden change in the amount of incoming light. I think it's important that you read up on, and understand how digital cameras work before you use what is clearly artifacts of the digital processing within the camera as evidence for anything.
Now, to this:
Can you please explain to me how is it the camera adjusting to the "burst" when the sky doesn't change colors? I mean... This burst is happening with the Sun visible, with the Sun out of sight, it also happened to the moon in the morning and at night with the whole sky dark.
The camera is not adjusting to any "burst", it's adjusting to the amount of light hitting the sensors. This happens at night time as well. Even if the sun is out of your cameras view, it's light is still reflected on everything you observe. Remember, what you see, is the result of light reflecting off of it, and hitting your eyes. Sometimes, the amount of light varies. The atmosphere is not a void, it's literally a soup of gasses. The amount of molecules in our local atmosphere isn't uniform, this is why you have things such as low and high pressure. What you don't see at night time for instance, is the ice crystals in the upper atmosphere, regardless of the amount of visible clouds. This becomes even more illustrative as an example when you look at the moon on clear, frosty nights where you'll see a visible corona. You'll even see that standing below street lights and looking at them.
Do you think there are lens in space to "covered up incoming planets"? if so... where are those lenses located?
No, I don't. But given a spherical planet, with a gravity that keeps the atmosphere in place in a likewise spherical fashion, you will have light react to our soupy atmosphere in the same fashion as a lens, or a prism. Again, this is not uniform, since our atmosphere is not uniform. These effects can vary a great number of times in a matter of seconds, just like you see with a mirage or a fatamorgana. It's all a matter of temperature, humidity, the angle of light, air pressure and a myriad of other factors.
why don't they ever get hit by satelites or space junk? Those are genuine questions and I really wanna know.
Fair enough. Let's assume there were lenses in space. The Earth is huge. If you draw a circle (low earth orbit for instance) around earth, you will have a circle with an even greater circumference than earth it self. "Space junk" doesn't "just" collide for many reasons. Space junk in orbit at the same altitude will go more or less around earth at the same speed. Space junk in a higher orbit will go around earth slower. You will only have space junk colliding when they suffer from orbital decay, or have orbits with great variations in periapsis (lowest altitude of it's orbit) and apoapsis (highest altitude of it's orbit), thus crossing each others orbital paths.
one thing that I still don't get is why some lens flare move along with the light source and some don't??
A professional camera operator's first reaction to this would probably be observing his or her surroundings, looking for points that have very reflective surfaces. If Sunlight comes in from the right relative to the angle of your lens, and reflects off windows in a city on your left, there's a likelihood that you'll have lens flares originating from a source on your lefthand side. Lens flares are not a result of the Sun. Lens flares are the result of bright light scattering through your lens(es). Bright light can be interpretted arbitrarily, since light can be bright relative to your surroundings. That means, even street light in pitch black darkness is bright light for a digital camera sensor in that regard. Or even worse, the Moon. The Moon is pretty darn bright. If your camera sensor have to adjust for the incoming light directly from the moon, while at the same time adjusting from the moon light reflected off of your surroundings, you'll have artifacts in your photo's and video's as well.
Thank you very much!
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I'm not even gonna waste my time with you.
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It's because your not smart enough to send your original and so-called profound discoveries to the media that actually pay people money. By Golly you act as if you should deserve Nobel Prize. I should follow you around in life and be your shadow. Your clueless brain must walk past so much free money laying on the ground and around you that your too clueless to pickup or realize it's even there
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I'm not even gonna waste my time with you.
It's because your not smart enough to send your original and so-called profound discoveries to the media that actually pay people money. By Golly you act as if you should deserve Nobel Prize. I should follow you around in life and be your shadow. Your clueless brain must walk past so much free money laying on the ground and around you that your too clueless to pickup or realize it's even there
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lol exactly why I'm not gonna waste my time with you... by your choice of words I can tell how educated you are and how this is gonna go. Have a nice day ;)
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Sorry, I don't belong to the Snow Flake Generation or Lost Generation.
Nice comments you got going on your Youtube page, lot of people baffled over your logic and you admitting using Photoshop on some of them :P
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Sorry, I don't belong to the Snow Flake Generation or Lost Generation.
Nice comments you got going on your Youtube page, lot of people baffled over your logic and you admitting using Photoshop on some of them :P
I use photoshop on every photo. Do you know what I do with it? I enhance the photo so I can see better. I also include every original screen shot before I start showing the enhanced images. oh wow. You caught me. =p
I also am not expressing any logic in my videos (if you watched any you would know) all I'm doing is showing you the sky and highlighting what to me is out of place.
Thanks for watching. =)
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Sorry, I don't belong to the Snow Flake Generation or Lost Generation.
Nice comments you got going on your Youtube page, lot of people baffled over your logic and you admitting using Photoshop on some of them :P
if you also notice at the bottom of the screen i also left the recording mark so people can see where i took the screen shot from and to also see when I'm still showing the same image with enhancements. ;)
but then again if you watched any of the videos you would know that... I also leave in the video description the link to every camera so you can go look at them for yourself.